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HenryChinaski said:

I get it, right wingers hate foreigners and "multiculturalism" Right wing talk radio and media has indeed done it's job over the last 30 years of turning aging white men into a cantankerous angry lot who want to blame their insecurities on every group and demographic.

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No you clearly don't get it. Calling people racists for demonstrating in group preference is not only dishonest, its harmful to the victims of actual racism and no longer works as a shaming tactic.

In fact, Trumps election was a backlash from people sick of being called names by the likes of you. You hurt victims of ACTUAL racism by crying wolf so damn much, and you exacerbate the already toxic political climate; Shame on you.

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HenryChinaski said:

I get it, right wingers hate foreigners and "multiculturalism" Right wing talk radio and media has indeed done it's job over the last 30 years of turning aging white men into a cantankerous angry lot who want to blame their insecurities on every group and demographic.

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You get it? Get what?

To you 9-11 and the second 9-11 were just right winger fantasies? Boston, San Bernardino, Orlando, too? Mass decapitations in both Western and Eastern hemispheres? Events, tragic and too numerous, across the globe...those are merely figments of the imagination? That people from all over have poured across our borders is an aging white man's invention, a lie, there is no danger, no drug cartel/gang related violence spilling across with the millions of others coming illegally into a sovereign nation whose elected by the people law givers put laws on the books only to be wantonly broken?

This continued unwillingness to deal with even the simple, easily understood realities is why WE, the people, in resounding numbers in nearly every level of government have chosen the smarter, clued in party to govern, protect us while we try to concentrate on our families and what is important to us. You folks might best hurry up, get a clue and a grip on whats happening on the ground, where the rubber meets the road, start dealing with it honestly.

Otherwise, I suppose we have enough free thought and independent thinking in somewhat fractious Republican party to form a very much needed, and honest, opposition party. A template the Democrats long since tossed.

Good thing is... now EVERYBODY knows it. Well, except those still blinded by their bias. I guess the current generation will have to die off before we are rid of this scourge.

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HenryChinaski said:

I get it, right wingers hate foreigners and "multiculturalism" Right wing talk radio and media has indeed done it's job over the last 30 years of turning aging white men into a cantankerous angry lot who want to blame their insecurities on every group and demographic.

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Nope.

You obviously don't get it.

We don't like open borders where people can wander into the country. We do not know who these people are, what diseases they bring, or what type of characters they are. Then, when it's time to return the criminal elements to where they came, we get the lunatic Left claiming they're "immigrants". No... they're illegal, and criminal.

We also do not like taking people into the country from a region that is a known threat to civil and western society... without going through the most extreme vetting. We do not have to let these threats into the country. Perhaps you would like to your children to spend your time in a criminal neighborhood, just to show what fine young specimens you've brought into the world. Would you? Really? Then why would you allow such threats to be foisted on others here?

We do not have to enter into a dimwitted Leftist suicide pact, as Leftist judges act with the approval of the suicidal Left in blocking a ban on people coming from regions with no governments... for a short period of time until we put a system in place which can deal with said threatening regions.

As I noted early on with the Swedish PM... his blarney will be forgotten, and Leftists like you simply reinforce this fact. The moronic Left has made their view public since 911. Despite all the attacks, all the evidence since 911... you may as well get naked and smother yourself in honey and run through a forest full of bears, such is your mentality towards "immigration" policy.

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zimmer said:

Well, the lessons of history show us the Leftists words are cheap. They say anything.

When Leftist Senators and Congressmen sent troops to war, and turned around and back stabbed them... for political expediency on both counts... Leftists will say anything... and do. They have no morals, and if it wasn't for double standards, they'd have none.

I expect this attack to be forgotten, and the words of this Swedish PM to be as lasting as the last turd he flushed to the sewage treatment facility.

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We are all wasting time.

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Gaugingcatenate said:

What you are actually, when translated, saying is that nothing has been said that will convince someone adamantly, steadfastly, stubbornly clinging to a left inspired meme, not one from the right and so one most certainly wrong, you know, the left's view of the world. No amount of rational talk, evidence, facts or lining up the dots to form a line pointing towards truth will convince someone who has allowed that thick cloak to hermetically seal, veil authenticity, the one that conjures up falsehoods fueling the purist's imagination on the left.

No, talk is not cheap. Not properly dealing with the truth when it meets the reality is very expensive, has already cost us many priceless innocent lives all around the globe.

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I got to say you can convenience people by looking through their point of view, but people don't because they think their view is wrong and toxic.

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Winston said:

When FOX has in the past, edited out the context of quotes from Swedish police officers, in order to push a propaganda narrative, that supports their fantasy-land narrative, it's odd that you expect anyone to take you seriously. As a subsequent poster further clarified, he would like the full context of the PM statements, not a driveby Daily Mail smear job. I find it exceedingly difficult to believe your claims. Just like teenagers wear their hearts on their sleeves, you wear your ideology on your forehead. The Daily Mail's integrity as well as your credibility have been KO'd, sacrificed to serve the purpose of saying, "nyah nyah, nyah, nyah, I told you the Left and Muslims are bad."

I await any real evidence of how the Prime Minister reacts to this tragedy, and my condolences go out to those affected. Your attempt to politicize a tragedy is noted, and discarded into the trash bin where it belongs.

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I used to be a Leftist, when I was young and idealistic. I know the Left. Their games. Their Lies. Their deceits. I'm older, wiser and not a sucker. My ego wasn't so big and wedded to my political beliefs that I couldn't change. I sought the truth, and that wasn't found in the Left, so I abandoned it bit by bit. And you? Why do you follow a morally and intellectually bankrupted lot?

The attack is one in a long line of Islamimist terror attacks. You don't need to watch FOX NEWS to know it's been a constant parade of worldwide death and destruction provided by these troglodytes. In Egypt, they just had a mass murder of Christians. It's been some 30,000 plus terror attacks since 911. Not a bad business, if you're number isn't called to service 72 virgins... or as Freak Zuchini at CNN claims... 72 raisins.

And you don;t need FOX NEWS to learn about the years of Muslim invoked chaos on the Swedish public. The Swedes have tried their finest impression of ostriches, but after assuming that position and getting ****ed hard in the ass, they're slowly waking up... with sore behinds.

It takes real mind bending talent to behave as Leftists do, and just sweep it aside as some right wing conspiracy. That clueless and dangerous stance merely reinforces the claim I made in the OP. Leftists will just... move-on... as if nothing happened. They'll drop their flowers and condolences, forget the dead and maimed, and do the same after the next, next and next attack. You've been doing it for about 16-years. Just look at yourselves. Aren't you disgusted? Obviously not.

One day you just might wake up, as the Swedish PM claims he has... but frankly, knowing Leftists... I think Leftists will remain in a coma at worst, and imitating the Swedish Ostrich at best... as for the Swedish PM... I think he's full of ****. Leftists just have that talent about them... they're unbelievable.

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devildavid said:

Yeah, sure. We're right on the brink. Somalia. Ok. :roll:

Somalia country profile - BBC News

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Watch and learn, Grasshopper.

:2usflag:

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zimmer said:

Pure, unadulterated bull****.

It was 2-years ago Europe was caught with its pants around its ankles as a million or more invaded Europe.

The one thing the EU should have been prepared for, but wasn't. After 911, after the oodles of boats finding the shores of Italy, after all the warnings... the EU showed how massively incompetent it is. How absolutely clueless it is.

I saw it first parts of the invasion first-hand, having to drive from Munich to Salzburg to pick up friends and clients as they tried to stem the tide by halting trains from SBG to MUC. I had a fiend comment on the number of foreigners on the trains, not realizing what was happening.

In Sverige alone the numbers are between 162,000 and over 300,000.

Wrong again. There are borders, and like Obama did with our southern border, the EU left theirs open. Some have been closed at main arteries.


Humane... yes... as terror threats, sexual predator rapists have entered the country. That's humane. The fun has just begun. And it's not as if they did not know the problem. Muslims have been wreaking havoc in Malmö and Göteborg for quite some time. Today we have small towns like Östersund making international news, as women are advised to stay at home in the evenings due to sexual predators.

It's going to cost Swedes $18.6 Billion for those refugees, and of the refugees... less than 500 have jobs. That's about a zero unemployment rate for the 318,000.
Refugees Will Cost Sweden $18.6 Billion This Year?9.3x Over-Budget | National Economics Editorial

Det är en stor fy fan.

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In the world, there are around 50 million refugees and only around 100 000 get asylum a normal year in EU. That I call very strict. Also, yes it was around one million asylum seekers in 2015 but it was because Turkey didn’t want to longer stop refugees to get to Europe. That its’s very easy to get from Turkey to Greece over the Mediterranean sea if the Turks don’t stop the refugees.
The number of asylum seekers to Sweden was 160 000, during 2015 30 000, during 2016 and 7 000 so far this year. There typically around half are granted asylum.

https://translate.google.se/transla.../Om-Migrationsverket/Statistik.html&edit-text=

Also after taking in more refugees per capita then many other European countries during the last couple of decades Sweden have a high employment rate compared to other countries. While at the same time Sweden has lower unemployment than the EU average.

https://data.oecd.org/emp/employment-rate.htm

Sweden also have a very strong economy. For example Sweden is the best country for business according to Forbes.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017...ost-other-countries-at-just-about-everything/

Sweden have a murder rate of 1,1 per 100 000 people while USA has 4,9. While Malmö has 3,4 and Stockholm 1,3 compared to Chicago 28 and St. Louis 59.

Sweden crime situation compared to the USA, in 4 charts | Aftonbladet

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Vox said:

Watch and learn, Grasshopper.

:2usflag:

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I'll be dead long before your fever dreams even come close to happening.

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zimmer said:

I used to be a Leftist, when I was young and idealistic. I know the Left. Their games. Their Lies. Their deceits. I'm older, wiser and not a sucker. My ego wasn't so big and wedded to my political beliefs that I couldn't change. I sought the truth, and that wasn't found in the Left, so I abandoned it bit by bit. And you? Why do you follow a morally and intellectually bankrupted lot?

The attack is one in a long line of Islamimist terror attacks. You don't need to watch FOX NEWS to know it's been a constant parade of worldwide death and destruction provided by these troglodytes. In Egypt, they just had a mass murder of Christians. It's been some 30,000 plus terror attacks since 911. Not a bad business, if you're number isn't called to service 72 virgins... or as Freak Zuchini at CNN claims... 72 raisins.

And you don;t need FOX NEWS to learn about the years of Muslim invoked chaos on the Swedish public. The Swedes have tried their finest impression of ostriches, but after assuming that position and getting ****ed hard in the ass, they're slowly waking up... with sore behinds.

It takes real mind bending talent to behave as Leftists do, and just sweep it aside as some right wing conspiracy. That clueless and dangerous stance merely reinforces the claim I made in the OP. Leftists will just... move-on... as if nothing happened. They'll drop their flowers and condolences, forget the dead and maimed, and do the same after the next, next and next attack. You've been doing it for about 16-years. Just look at yourselves. Aren't you disgusted? Obviously not.

One day you just might wake up, as the Swedish PM claims he has... but frankly, knowing Leftists... I think Leftists will remain in a coma at worst, and imitating the Swedish Ostrich at best... as for the Swedish PM... I think he's full of ****. Leftists just have that talent about them... they're unbelievable.

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I don't think you used the word Leftist enough.

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Sweden said:

No, this is quite wrong. There are no 'strict controls' Anyone who arrives at a Swedish border says the magic words "I claim asylum" is admitted and then receives benefits, accommodation, free health care and free dental care while his claim is examined - which can take a year or two. So much for the absurd claim that Sweden has "harsh asylum policies". If his claim is turned down he will continue to received cash, though at a reduced rate, and medical and dental care. Btw I, a Swedish citizen pay a lot for dental treatment while someone here ILLEGALLY gets it for free.

In the latest opinion poll the Swedish Democrats, who actually have opposed mass immigration for decades, are the largest party with 27.5%. PM Löven's Socialists are on 23.2%. I do not believe anything Löven says - he is a trade union official who has never even stood for public office before he became his party's leader. His government is a coalition of the Socialists and the Greens who combined got 37% in the last elections.

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Of course, people should have a right to seek asylum or do you for example want Lebanon to send back over one million Syrians so they can get slaughtered by Assad or ISIS?

Also, it’s now much harder to get into the EU there the dangerous route over the Mediterranean sea from Libya is more and more the only way. Also, people’s ID’s are now checked in Denmark and Germany on buses, trains and ferries so it’s much harder to get into Sweden. That at the same time EU countries have a common list of safe country their people belong to those countries can be quickly send back if they seek asylum. Also, don’t get any money or housing if your asylum request is denied. While if asylum is granted, you can only get a temporary stay in Sweden and can’t reunite with your family.

Also Sweden Democrats are only second place in polls.

Väljarbarometer mars 2017 | Inizio

Väljarbarometern mars 2017 - Demoskop

Novus/SVT mars Sverigedemokraterna näst största parti - Novus

You also forgot that Vänterpartiet the left wing party is also part of the coalition, but yes the coalition have less than 50 percent but it's because no one wants to cooperate with the Sweden Democrats.

For example according to Sweden Democrats you can't be both have a jewish identity and be a "true Swede".

Jews and Sami are not Swedish - Sverigedemokraternas vitbok

Sweden Democrats also got banned from a meeting in Israel because of their neo Nazi tendencies.

Backing far-right Swede, Trump proxy shuns top Israeli official | The Times of Israel

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VanceMack said:

Europe is ****ed. Heres hoping we can learn from their mistakes before we jump into the frying pan with them.

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The real Europe is doing ok.

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Bergslagstroll said:

Of course, people should have a right to seek asylum or do you for example want Lebanon to send back over one million Syrians so they can get slaughtered by Assad or ISIS?

Also, it’s now much harder to get into the EU there the dangerous route over the Mediterranean sea from Libya is more and more the only way. Also, people’s ID’s are now checked in Denmark and Germany on buses, trains and ferries so it’s much harder to get into Sweden. That at the same time EU countries have a common list of safe country their people belong to those countries can be quickly send back if they seek asylum. Also, don’t get any money or housing if your asylum request is denied. While if asylum is granted, you can only get a temporary stay in Sweden and can’t reunite with your family.

Also Sweden Democrats are only second place in polls.

Väljarbarometer mars 2017 | Inizio

Väljarbarometern mars 2017 - Demoskop

Novus/SVT mars Sverigedemokraterna näst största parti - Novus

You also forgot that Vänterpartiet the left wing party is also part of the coalition, but yes the coalition have less than 50 percent but it's because no one wants to cooperate with the Sweden Democrats.

For example according to Sweden Democrats you can't be both have a jewish identity and be a "true Swede".

Jews and Sami are not Swedish - Sverigedemokraternas vitbok

Sweden Democrats also got banned from a meeting in Israel because of their neo Nazi tendencies.

Backing far-right Swede, Trump proxy shuns top Israeli official | The Times of Israel

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Sentio poll published on 11 April: SD 27.2% Socialists 23.3% Moderates 15.8%

Contrary to your assertion the Left Socialists, Vänsterpartiet, are NOT in the government coalition. Where are you posting from Bergslagstroll? You seem curiously ill-informed about events in Sweden and continually make basic mistakes on matters of fact.

You seem to be unaware that several leading members of the Swedish Democrats are themselves Jewish - Paula Bieler for example.

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Sweden said:

Sentio poll published on 11 April: SD 27.2% Socialists 23.3% Moderates 15.8%

Contrary to your assertion the Left Socialists, Vänsterpartiet, are NOT in the government coalition. Where are you posting from Bergslagstroll? You seem curiously ill-informed about events in Sweden and continually make basic mistakes on matters of fact.

You seem to be unaware that several leading members of the Swedish Democrats are themselves Jewish - Paula Bieler for example.

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I should have wrote most polls. Also I may be wrong but Sentio is the only poll that have Sweden Democrats in the lead while the other polls have them in second place?

The left wing party support the government coalition and the goverment coalition have to negoiate with them to get through their budget. Just like before you had only a Socialdemocratic goverment and they had to negoiate with both the green party and the left wing party. So they are part of the vänsterblocket the left wing coalition.

That some Sweden Democrats are themself jews doesn't change the things I wrote. Also here is a list with example of rascist and nazi connections, actions and statements by Sweden Democrats and also of other scandals.

https://translate.google.se/transla...ww.interasistmen.se/irm-listar-sd/&edit-text=