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United Passenger Dragged From Overbooked Flight

I don't care what the legal outcome of this is but I'll be damned if, as a grown man, I'll EVER act in a way that the cops have to drag me off of what I'm doing like I'm a two year old. I mean, damn, sometimes life just isn't fair. Suck it up, go have a beer, and come back for more tomorrow.
 
its a breach of contract though. wanna bet who is going to win this matter legally?

United won't contest it, they'll just pay him off. who would win in court? United.

because he was getting cash, a hotel state, and a free flight the next day, which was probably in the contract for the ticket.
 
for him to be a criminal he would have had to have been convicted of committing a crime. Remind me of that conviction

no, he would have to be convicted to be sentenced for not de-boarding the plane, I think we can call him a criminal upon probable cause, and there is certainly PC he violated the law by failing to depart the plane.
 
It's hard to respect LEO when the do **** like that.

why? because they used force to remove a non-compliant criminal suspect from a vehicle after he was ordered to leave?
 
and I bet he's going to win-if they are stupid enough to not settle. I used to represent police departments. If I was counsel for those cops, I'd offer a settlement really quickly. This is not good for them

Qualified immunity, the cops are good, they don't need to settle with him. their department maybe, but I hope they don't. They should take it trial, request a bench trial, and if they end up wth a bad jury verdict, then appeal.
 
Qualified immunity, the cops are good, they don't need to settle with him. their department maybe, but I hope they don't. They should take it trial, request a bench trial, and if they end up wth a bad jury verdict, then appeal.

I don't think in a civil case the defendants can demand a bench trial--especially if the doctor is smart and goes after them federally under 42 USC Sec. 1983
 
why? because they used force to remove a non-compliant criminal suspect from a vehicle after he was ordered to leave?

that's the problem-its dubious if they had a reasonable belief this was criminal conduct, that is going to be a rather dicey argument.
 
no, he would have to be convicted to be sentenced for not de-boarding the plane, I think we can call him a criminal upon probable cause, and there is certainly PC he violated the law by failing to depart the plane.

I disagree. I am going to bet a trier of fact and law is going to find that the order to deplane is not reasonable
 
that's the problem-its dubious if they had a reasonable belief this was criminal conduct, that is going to be a rather dicey argument.

They had a direct request from an agent of the owner of the plane to remove him, that constitutes PC in and of itself. That's not the issue of the officers, police officer and civil court judge are different occupations in this country.
 
I don't think in a civil case the defendants can demand a bench trial--especially if the doctor is smart and goes after them federally under 42 USC Sec. 1983

They didn't deprive him of his civil rights. they had probable cause he was trespassing and had to use force to overcome his resistance.
 
that's the problem-its dubious if they had a reasonable belief this was criminal conduct, that is going to be a rather dicey argument.

Add to that the fact he was FWO. We can't have that.
 
They didn't deprive him of his civil rights. they had probable cause he was trespassing and had to use force to overcome his resistance.

BWAHAHAHA please pass me the bull**** deodorizer.
 
BWAHAHAHA please pass me the bull**** deodorizer.

So what law grants you the right to resist police officers who are being requested to remove you from property you do not own. at worst this is a PR problem, unless someone actually shows me a law here It seems to me the airline and the cops are legally in the right. this man was only injured because he refused a lawful command to leave and then resisted the police when they used force to help him leave.
 
They didn't deprive him of his civil rights. they had probable cause he was trespassing and had to use force to overcome his resistance.

I guess we will see how this turns out. I am suspecting the passenger is going to be substantially better off financially
 
So what law grants you the right to resist police officers who are being requested to remove you from property you do not own. at worst this is a PR problem, unless someone actually shows me a law here It seems to me the airline and the cops are legally in the right. this man was only injured because he refused a lawful command to leave and then resisted the police when they used force to help him leave.

Well then. Would you care to wager that United will pay this passenger dearly for apparently not doing anything wrong?

Whether in a court of law or a court of public opinion, United is a clear loser on this. A total bucket of fail.
 
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The weird part is that everyone is mad at the airline as if they personally beat the guy up.

No. They are mad because the airline has such a stupid policy that could lead any one of us to be attacked by police officers for not getting off a plane that we legally purchased a ticket for and after we did nothing illegal to warrant removal from a plane.
 
He looks close to unconscious to me as he is lifelessly dragged away... that is beaten.

Yeah. Can you imagine the CEO watching this? I'm betting his ass took a bite out of his chair.
 
I hope United has good lawyers. My guess is they'll be needing them.....

Not me... I hope they have horrible lawyers and get sued for 20 billion dollars...
 
No. They are mad because the airline has such a stupid policy that could lead any one of us to be attacked by police officers for not getting off a plane that we legally purchased a ticket for and after we did nothing illegal to warrant removal from a plane.

Common sense. Not so common.
 
Well then. Would you care to wager that United will pay this passenger dearly for apparently not doing anything wrong?

Whether in a court of law or a court of the public opinion, United is a loser on this. A total bucket of fail.

I do not at all doubt they will settle, they shouldn't, but they will.
 
For what? Calling the police to remove a criminal from their airplane?

:lol: What? :lol:

I literally laughed out loud at the complete stupidity of this conclusion. :rofl:
 
No. They are mad because the airline has such a stupid policy that could lead any one of us to be attacked by police officers for not getting off a plane that we legally purchased a ticket for and after we did nothing illegal to warrant removal from a plane.

He was not attacked by police officers, he was detained by officers using reasonable force to overcome his unlawful resistance to their duties.

A contract issue with a third party doesn't give you the right to assault/resist police officers.
 
Failure to deplane when ordered by flight crew is against the law.

They breached a legally binding contract first... so by your logic they are criminals and he was acting in defense.
 
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