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US envoy Nikki Haley says Syria regime change is 'inevitable'

Jredbaron96 said:
How on earth does Trump have more pressure on him than the Obama administration had? The GOP controls the White House and Congress, and the majority of governors are Republican. This should be easy street.
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Media. They frame every story in opposition to Trump and in support of Obama. That counts for a lot.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Media. They frame every story in opposition to Trump and in support of Obama. That counts for a lot.
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Right, because Fox News, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reily, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck just up and disappeared between 2008 and 2016.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Right, because Fox News, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reily, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck just up and disappeared between 2008 and 2016.
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That's hardly representative. Now take almost all the newspapers, all the news magazines, every news agency but Fox, every news show except those on Fox and the comparison isn't even close.

You are making excuses and rationalizations.
 
OpportunityCost said:
That's hardly representative. Now take almost all the newspapers, all the news magazines, every news agency but Fox, every news show except those on Fox and the comparison isn't even close.
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Oh please. More conveniently you just ignored all the media that supported your world view so you can throw up complaints once you had your own party in office about how evil the media is.

You are making excuses and rationalizations.
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"Come in Pot, this is Kettle"
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Oh please. More conveniently you just ignored all the media that supported your world view so you can throw up complaints once you had your own party in office about how evil the media is.



"Come in Pot, this is Kettle"
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Making the laughingly stupid comparison of 5% of media with the whole isn't convincing. If you do not believe there is political pressure on Trump, you may provide some evidence of that rather than being dismissive of evidence that there is.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Making the laughingly stupid comparison of 5% of media with the whole isn't convincing. If you do not believe there is political pressure on Trump, you may provide some evidence of that rather than being dismissive of evidence that there is.
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Presidents have always faced pressure from the Media, regardless of the party in office. When Obama was in office Fox News couldn't spare a day without finding something to criticize. Same for Bush, and now Trump. You're a fool if you think otherwise.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Presidents have always faced pressure from the Media, regardless of the party in office. When Obama was in office Fox News couldn't spare a day without finding something to criticize. Same for Bush, and now Trump. You're a fool if you think otherwise.
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You seem to think one network applies the same amount of media pressure as all the other outlets put together? THAT is foolish.
 
OpportunityCost said:
You seem to think one network applies the same amount of media pressure as all the other outlets put together? THAT is foolish.
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No, I think you just have selective memory when it comes to media pressure.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
No, I think you just have selective memory when it comes to media pressure.
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Not at all. I know Fox news opposed a lot of Obama policy. That hardly compares with EVERYTHING else. I don't think you have selective memory, you have confirmation bias blindness.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Yeah I know, my point still stands.

And since Russian defensive doctrine relies heavily on nuclear threat to deter aggression against the Russian state, this will end badly for everyone, not just Russia.
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Please tell Nikki Haley that, she's acting like she is the person making Syrian policy. Someone just has to shut her up.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Then they are measuring US response and I would say they didn't get the one they expected.
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All they keep hearing is how President Trump is, "illigitimate". They put too much stock in all that bull****.
 
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