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Emanuel wants to add a CPS graduation requirement: Get acceptance letter

Chomsky said:
Oh comon!

First time I think I strongly disagree with you.

So now we must "prove" we have a reason to be?

No way, no how - at least not in America. Hopefully.
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I am not saying I support it, but I am pointing about that you can have literally nay kind of reason, just something. It forces people who may not have considered trades for example to research them. Unemployed youth are a problem.
 
Carjosse said:
I imagine the thinking here is to forcing people into researching and making a decision on their future.
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This is all about how some people think they need the government to dictate all things to them.

If the school hasn't prepared the student to think about life then they failed.

If at the end of school a student isn't sure if they want trades, university, or work than the teachers salaries should be withheld not the diploma. The school failed the student and should pay the price for their failure. Not penalizing the student
 
Carjosse said:
I am not saying I support it, but I am pointing about that you can have literally nay kind of reason, just something. It forces people who may not have considered trades for example to research them. Unemployed youth are a problem.
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Would join a gang sling drugs and shoot at people count? It is Chicago after all.
 
Ikari said:
Not sure being denied a HS diploma will impact that in any positive/meaningful way.
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I am not saying it is a good idea, I was pointing out the thinking behind it.
 
Chillfolks said:
If at the end of school a student isn't sure if they want trades, university, or work than the teachers salaries should be withheld not the diploma. The school failed the student and should pay the price for their failure. Not penalizing the student
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It isn't a teacher's job to help you figure out what you want to do with your future. Why is it teachers are faulted for a parent's responsibilities?
 
Hatuey said:
It isn't a teacher's job to help you figure out what you want to do with your future. Why is it teachers are faulted for a parent's responsibilities?
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I don't totally disagree with you. Rham the Scam is saying that before a student can graduate he needs a plan. So it is on the school to help provide that along with the other education requirements. If Rham the Scam drops his idea then I agree it falls back on the parents. But if he wants a student to have a plan to be a requirement then it is on the school to help provide it or be penalised for their failure.
 
Chillfolks said:
My brother and I both have degrees but never got a HS diploma. We both dropped out got our GED then went on to get degrees.
The education and what you learn is or at least should what's important not the piece of paper you hold in your hand
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:doh a GED is the equivalent of a high school diploma.

which means my original argument still stands.
 
VanceMack said:
There are currently a whole lot of people facing a mountain of debt because they went out and got a college degree in a field that was not considered nor economically viable. If the intent of this is to force people into college, that should be seen as a criminal act.
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people need to do their research and understand that an undergrad in fine arts or in history or in social studies isn't going to pay your back.
sure those are nice to have and there are some fields in which those things are needed but they are few and far between.
 
Ikari said:
this entire program makes the assumption that it's going to have an influence. I merely pointed out that it doesn't seem that it will do much of anything. There's no mechanism, not one that has been demonstrated anyway, that would show that there would somehow prevent those who were to become "unemployed criminals" from becoming unemployed criminals.

Got any of that?
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it is not my job to figure out what you are trying to say. it is your job to state your argument in a matter that people can read it.
If you agree that the program is complete bunk due to how it is structured and that it will probably cause more harm than good
then we are in agreement.

That should not stop a kid from getting his high school diploma if he meets the requirements "unemployed criminal" or not.
 
ludin said:
:doh a GED is the equivalent of a high school diploma.

which means my original argument still stands.
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No it means your original argument was flawed. Now that you moved the goal post and are including alternative certification beyond simply a HS diploma I can agree with your point that a diploma or equivalent is needed to get most jobs.


Still think Rham the Scam is pushing a poor proposal.
 
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