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President Trump Blames Barack Obama's 'Weakness' for Chemical Attack in Syria

Bucky said:
No we don't. By your logic every U.S president since Roosevelt has violated international law and committed war crimes.

By abiding international law and the UN that greatly undermines the United States defense and national security and emboldens ISIS, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Syria, etc...
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Unless/until Trump pulls the plug, the US remains a founding member of the UN organization.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Unless/until Trump pulls the plug, the US remains a founding member of the UN organization.
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The United Nations: Outdated and no longer useful just like the majority of actions enacted by Roosevelt.
 
Bucky said:
No we don't. By your logic every U.S president since Roosevelt has violated international law and committed war crimes.
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I'm sure some have, but nothing as blatant as gassing your own people or invading another country without justification and inflicting untold horrors upon its people.

By abiding international law and the UN that greatly undermines the United States defense and national security and emboldens ISIS, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Syria, etc...
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Oh, come now. Stop being so overly dramatic. It's not the act of abiding by international law that many believe has emboldened the likes of Al Qaeda, ISIS, NKorea, Iran, Syria and others. It's them simply not carry about the consequences of their actions that emboldens them.

In any case, if you think it's perfectly okay for one country's leader to do whatever it wants, then you must've been perfectly find with every action committed by dictators and tyrants since the days of Genghis Khan. I get that you want a sovereign country to act in its own self-interest, but really? I mean...really? Tyranny and unilateral invasions...no respect for the rights of other sovereign nations...is that really what you're advocating here?
 
Top Cat said:
Why would I regret it?
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If the purpose of your post (written before last night) and the 2 links (to TIME and NYT articles written before last night) wasn't to show that Trump was wrong about Syria and Obama's inaction but now he's learning why nothing was done about Syria, then what was the purpose?
Seems like an immaterial argument now.
Do you still feel ****ed but for a different reason than before? Maybe it's a chronic psychosomatic problem.
 
I blame Obama for not acting before, but not for this chemical attack. Assad is just a merciless asshole.
 
chromium said:
has Trump ever not contradicted himself based on who his political rivals are? The 2013 attack where he's pleading Obama to not use strikes was much worse as well.

Of course the relevance to his actions now is you gotta question his motives
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There's something else people have to consider in their "comparisons" between Obama's red line and Trump's unilateral action: Pres. Trump wouldn't have been able to conduct these missile strikes had it not been for the steps the Obama Administration took in the wake of not taking military action against Syria and eventually taking the matter to the UN essentially forcing the U.S. and USSR to work together to resolve the Syrian chemical weapons problem. (I refer you back to UN Resolution 2118 (2013) and UN Security Counsel memo dated 9/24/2013 linked in post #72.)
 
American said:
I blame Obama for not acting before, but not for this chemical attack. Assad is just a merciless asshole.
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Right wing accountability. Gotta love it.
 
Objective Voice said:
Actually, I think he had it right per Articles 39-43 of the UN Charter http://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/{65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9}/s_res_2118.pdf, UN Resolution 2118(2013), and UN Security Counsel memo dated 9/24/2013 pertaining to the joint efforts by the U.S. and USSR to destroy Syria's chemical weapons stockpiles. The Chemical Weapons Convention Pres. Trump referred to in his news conference last night (4/06/2017) set the stage for the aforementioned international and bi-lateral agreements.

I think our nation's 45th President may have violated international law himself with his actions. They'll be no consequence for it by the UN, of course. But the steaks just got higher against Russia and China (and possibly Iran and Saudi Arabia) having our backs where future military action in Syria is concerned.
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As this article from MSN.com also articulates:

The show of force in Syria raises legal questions. It's unclear what authority Trump is relying on to attack another government. When Obama intervened in Libya in 2011, he used a U.N. Security Council mandate and NATO's overall leadership of the mission to argue that he had legal authority — arguments many Republicans opposed. Trump can't rely on either justification here.
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Not saying I disagree with his measured use of military force, just wondering where the legal justification comes in. I think the closest "justification" he'd have is the UNSC memo, but even it falls back on Chapter 7 of the UN Charter.

As I stated previously, I seriously doubt anything comes of this. After all, except for Syria, Russia and Iran, most nations are okay with Trump's actions. At this point, it's a game of wait-and-see what happens next.
 
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