Judge rejects Trump defense against claim he incited violence at rally[W:100]

A federal judge has rejected President Donald Trump’s free speech defense in a lawsuit in which he is accused of inciting violence against protesters during his campaign. Trump’s lawyers sought to dismiss the lawsuit by three protesters who say they were roughed up by Trump supporters at a March 2016 campaign rally in Louisville.

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Two women and a man say they were shoved and punched by audience members as Trump directed them from the podium. Much of the scuffle was captured on video and widely broadcast during the presidential campaign. Judge David J Hale in Louisville ruled on Friday that the suit against Trump, his campaign and three of his supporters can proceed.

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coldjoint said:

I would like to attack the source.

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Jetboogieman said:

I fail to see how you can attack a source for simply reporting the judges decision...

Unless you're contesting the entire story is fake?

Also this isn't a gameshow or something.

This isn't

"I would like to attack the source for 1000 Alex".

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Hawkeye10 said:

If "get 'em out of here" is inciting violence then I am a Monkeys Uncle.

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Cardinal said:

If he had said "I, Donald Trump, hereby encourage...nay, demand...that my supporters at this rally event in Louisville, Kentucky on March 1, 2016, hereby assault these people and violently eject them from these premises in a way that mocks the very meaning of civil behavior and discourse." you would not have had a problem with it.

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apdst said:

He could have said, "burn this bitch down". Oh, wait that isn't incitement, either.

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Cardinal said:

If he had said "I, Donald Trump, hereby encourage...nay, demand...that my supporters at this rally event in Louisville, Kentucky on March 1, 2016, hereby assault these people and violently eject them from these premises in a way that mocks the very meaning of civil behavior and discourse." you would not have had a problem with it.

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ttwtt78640 said:

If a simple statement to "get 'em out of here" is assumed to be a call for general (crowd?) violence then many that employ bouncers or security personnel are potentially in deep legal trouble. I find it odd that a judge would decide that these words were directed at just anyone in the crowd if Trump simply asserts that he meant them to be taken out by security personnel. This seems like a weak case to shift the blame to Trump.

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Winston said:

Trump also said that he loves the "old days when protestors would leave on a stretcher". Trump also offered to pay legal fees for supporters who attack protestors. Even though, like all things Trump says, it was complete bull**** when the rubber hit the road.

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apdst said:

Obama said, "we're going to punish our enemies and reward our friends". Are you equally outraged? How many times did you nut up about that?

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ttwtt78640 said:

If a simple statement to "get 'em out of here" is assumed to be a call for general (crowd?) violence then many that employ bouncers or security personnel are potentially in deep legal trouble. I find it odd that a judge would decide that these words were directed at just anyone in the crowd if Trump simply asserts that he meant them to be taken out by security personnel. This seems like a weak case to shift the blame to Trump.

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Hawkeye10 said:

Weak and alarming.

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Winston said:

the old Obama false equivalency...

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ttwtt78640 said:

If a simple statement to "get 'em out of here" is assumed to be a call for general (crowd?) violence then many that employ bouncers or security personnel are potentially in deep legal trouble. I find it odd that a judge would decide that these words were directed at just anyone in the crowd if Trump simply asserts that he meant them to be taken out by security personnel. This seems like a weak case to shift the blame to Trump.

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sangha said:

It is possible that by saying "get 'em out of here", Trump was suggesting that his supporters roll out a red carpet and throw money on it for the protesters to collect as they walked out of the building

Sounds plausible, right?

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ttwtt78640 said:

If there were security personnel present then it is quite likely that defense could work.

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Cardinal said:

A lawsuit against Trump for inciting violence is moving forward. It must be nice to have his Russia problems temporarily interrupted by having to deal with the karma of being a general, all-around piece of **** instead.





https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ump-defense-claim-incited-violence-protesters

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coldjoint said:

It borders on desperate.

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ttwtt78640 said:

If a simple statement to "get 'em out of here" is assumed to be a call for general (crowd?) violence then many that employ bouncers or security personnel are potentially in deep legal trouble. I find it odd that a judge would decide that these words were directed at just anyone in the crowd if Trump simply asserts that he meant them to be taken out by security personnel. This seems like a weak case to shift the blame to Trump.

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"Taken out of context, the elderly veteran, several others in the crowd, and I appear to be roughing up the woman because she's black," he wrote.

The incident occurred after Trump called for protesters' removal.

"Get out of here, get out of here!" the GOP presidential favorite shouted, pointing at a group of attendees. "Look at these people. Get out of here. Get Out. Out. Out Out! Get out."

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sangha said:

Trump was not speaking to security

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ttwtt78640 said:

Civil suits have been won on less - remember the McCoffee burns?

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