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Judge rejects Trump defense against claim he incited violence at rally[W:100]

Re: Judge rejects Trump defense against claim he incited violence at rally

What is the severest penalty Trump can face? Is this worth talking about?
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Civil suits can often get that way - especially with the joint and partial liability nonsense which means if you are found to be even 2% responsible (98% not responsible) then you may still have to pony up millions in damages. ;)
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Yep, they do that to ruin all the child porn traders they catch. This little nifty move means that they can completely ruin anyone who sends even one picture, for all of the damages done to all of the child porn victims by everyone (how they come up with these alleged damages is a very interesting topic in its own right), so even if a person has millions the government will threaten to take it all, and they almost always take a lot, regardless of how many pics that particular person has traded.

The system is fine with that...... THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE SYSTEM ARE FINE WITH THAT.

I'm not, that is not justice, that is abuse under brute strength of the state.

I DEMAND BETTER
 
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Guys, it's ok. He's God, so it's fine. He can do whatever He wants and if you question His ways, you're a loser.
 
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rocket88 said:
Guys, it's ok. He's God, so it's fine. He can do whatever He wants and if you question His ways, you're a loser.
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With these kinda standards can we do stand up comedy anymore?

Serious Question.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
If a simple statement to "get 'em out of here" is assumed to be a call for general (crowd?) violence then many that employ bouncers or security personnel are potentially in deep legal trouble. I find it odd that a judge would decide that these words were directed at just anyone in the crowd if Trump simply asserts that he meant them to be taken out by security personnel. This seems like a weak case to shift the blame to Trump.
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Anything to get Trump. It's way past ridiculous now. They will never stop and it's doing more harm and promoting more division when people are gleefully cheering for anything negative towards our President. Sad and embarrassing.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
With these kinda standards can we do stand up comedy anymore?

Serious Question.
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Not if it blasphemes.
 
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holbritter said:
Anything to get Trump. It's way past ridiculous now. They will never stop and it's doing more harm and promoting more division when people are gleefully cheering for anything negative towards our President. Sad and embarrassing.
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It's almost like they've been suggesting for 8 years that he wasn't born in America or something...
 
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rocket88 said:
It's almost like they've been suggesting for 8 years that he wasn't born in America or something...
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Get over it.
 
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rocket88 said:
Not if it blasphemes.
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Some guys do entire acts around insulting the audience...is that going to be illegal now?

The snowflakes cant take it anymore, they will lose their minds and maim others?

It is all the guy on the stages fault?

That's the argument right?
 
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holbritter said:
Get over it.
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You should get over it. In this country, you are allowed to criticize the President.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
Some guys do entire acts around insulting the audience...is that going to be illegal now?

The snowflakes cant take it anymore, they will lose their minds and maim others?

It is all the guy on the stages fault?

That's the argument right?
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"The snowflakes can't take it anymore" is exactly how I describe your behavior whenever someone criticizes Him.
 
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rocket88 said:
"The snowflakes can't take it anymore" is exactly how I describe your behavior whenever someone criticizes Him.
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I was trying to have a conversation with you...I will try again some other time, clearly this is not the day for it.
 
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Crovax said:
I don't see any way this doesn't fall under the protection of free speech.
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When you read the link it all leads up to white nationalist narrative and Trumps guilt by association. Again, just another attack by the elite.
 
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I'm glad I saw this thread. Only a card carrying lunatic could search, reach and journey into the inner cavaties of
the mind, the portion of the mind where realization occurs and come up with this. It's the wackiest attempt at damaging Trump
ever conceived of.

But when one thinks about it this may have a better chance to bruise Trump than that futile embarrassing Russian Collusion
chapter of American History.
 
Re: Judge rejects Trump defense against claim he incited violence at rally

ttwtt78640 said:
If a simple statement to "get 'em out of here" is assumed to be a call for general (crowd?) violence then many that employ bouncers or security personnel are potentially in deep legal trouble. I find it odd that a judge would decide that these words were directed at just anyone in the crowd if Trump simply asserts that he meant them to be taken out by security personnel. This seems like a weak case to shift the blame to Trump.
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It's hardly just that. Read #8. Statements encouraging his minions to attack protestors and he would even pay them for it, little wonder when he said "get em out of here" and security wasn't immediately at the ready, the goons beat security to it
 
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chromium said:
It's hardly just that. Read #8. Statements encouraging his minions to attack protestors and he would even pay them for it, little wonder when he said "get em out of here" and security wasn't immediately at the ready, the goons beat security to it
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The DNC did pay protestors, that was proven.
 
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Cardinal said:
A lawsuit against Trump for inciting violence is moving forward. It must be nice to have his Russia problems temporarily interrupted by having to deal with the karma of being a general, all-around piece of **** instead.





https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ump-defense-claim-incited-violence-protesters
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"Get them out of here" does not a priori sound like "incitement to violence". Reporting on it by a relatively anti American and very anti Trump left wing paper withoit the video of the situation has a feeling of dishonesty about it. Having said this, it indicates the judge is from a country that seems in institutions of higher learning to need racially separeting safe spaces for each gender and for those that feel different in case the student encounters disturbing facts exist. In such a land you might expect harsh words such as "get them out of here" might be considered incitement per se.
 
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coldjoint said:
The DNC did pay protestors, that was proven.
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At the time of the Roman Republic it was quite normal to pay members of the crowd to help a situation grow nasty.
 
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chromium said:
It's hardly just that. Read #8. Statements encouraging his minions to attack protestors and he would even pay them for it, little wonder when he said "get em out of here" and security wasn't immediately at the ready, the goons beat security to it
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That (bolded above) is exactly my point - we will see what comes of this in court. Meanwhile, calls to "burn this bitch down" were deemed not to be calls to incite arson - the "goons" were said to have acted without any such influence. ;)
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
If "get 'em out of here" is inciting violence then I am a Monkeys Uncle.
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exactly. the judge is playing politics as usual.

get 'em out of here is no more inciting violence than the man in the moon.

if people choose to do something stupid then that is on them.
yet another judge that doesn't seem to understand the law.
 
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Cardinal said:
If he had said "I, Donald Trump, hereby encourage...nay, demand...that my supporters at this rally event in Louisville, Kentucky on March 1, 2016, hereby assault these people and violently eject them from these premises in a way that mocks the very meaning of civil behavior and discourse." you would not have had a problem with it.
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you know your strawman arguments get really really old more so your projecting of people's opinions.
no where in his post did he say any of that. yet as usual you make up nonsense instead of actually addressing what was said.

Get em out of here has no violent connotation at all.
 
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Winston said:
the old Obama false equivalency...
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equal protection.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
I was trying to have a conversation with you...I will try again some other time, clearly this is not the day for it.
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actually it is simply not possible ever.
 
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