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Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe[W:266]

Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

I think they should ignore the democrats because they are just noise at this point. They call for resignations every five minutes, but never, ever resign when they should. We also need to know if there is a single shred of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. If there isn't, let's drop the whole thing.

It's time to investigate the bigger scandal. What was going on prior to Trump taking office? Why were they being spied on? Was it legal? Who gave the orders to illegally transcribe and unmask these individuals and for what purpose? Was the intelligence community used as a political weapon, as in a police state?

Obama was definitely in on it. There is a reason he signed an EO that disseminated intelligence broadly, which violates SOP in the intel field of keeping things on a need to know basis.
 
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Thank you.

Do you remember when the Trump nation citizens weren't the least bit concerned about the optics of Loretta Lynch having a secret 30 minute meeting on the tarmac with the spouse of someone under investigation? Yeah. me too.

Do you remember their outrage when it was suggested that Loretta Lynch recuse herself from any of the Clinton email investigations because of that little secret 30 minute meeting with Bill Clinton? Yeah, me too.

Do you sense the sarcasm in my posts?

By the way, Loretta Lynch did recuse herself because of that. As much as it pains me to admit this, the Democrats apparently have more decency than the party I've been supporting and voting for since 1980. But then again, that party never nominated a lifelong Democrat reality TV star as its Presidential candidate, so I'm not even sure what that party is anymore.
 
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Yeah...he went there to view materials that were unable to be brought to the Intelligence Committee and then informed the President of what he learned the next day. You know what can also happen? Other people on the committee can get off their butts and make the drive to view said documents as well.

....
lol

Look how well they have you trained.
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

That didn't answer anyone's questions. Who did he meet with? Who signed him into the WH? Why didn't he brief Trump that night? Why didn't he share this important information with anyone else? How come you acted like you knew more than the rest of the world did, but you just disappointed all of us?

You are not going to find out who he met with.
As for the rest? Watch the previously provided video.

 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

I don't see how an Attorney General meeting with the spouse of a Presidential candidate has anything to do with this.
 
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Can you explain his behavior last week and defend it as appropriate in his role as head of the investigation? Seems like going to WH for secret briefing, the briefing the potential target (Trump) or his associates in a private meeting, this person who Nunes served during the campaign and transition, and refusing to share that info with ANYONE, is just on its face disqualifying.

He can't share it with anyone. If anyone else on the committee wants to view said information they can go to the White House and view it for themselves. Their own laziness or lack of integrity is the only thing keeping them from seeing it.

What? You think Nunes is just carrying around classified documentation in his briefcase?
 
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Do you remember when the Trump nation citizens weren't the least bit concerned about the optics of Loretta Lynch having a secret 30 minute meeting on the tarmac with the spouse of someone under investigation? Yeah. me too.

Do you remember their outrage when it was suggested that Loretta Lynch recuse herself from any of the Clinton email investigations because of that little secret 30 minute meeting with Bill Clinton? Yeah, me too.

Do you sense the sarcasm in my posts?

By the way, Loretta Lynch did recuse herself because of that. As much as it pains me to admit this, the Democrats apparently have more decency than the party I've been supporting and voting for since 1980. But then again, that party never nominated a lifelong Democrat reality TV star as its Presidential candidate, so I'm not even sure what that party is anymore.
That's a great point. I actually hadn't put those two together, but it's a pretty similar situation.
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

That's a great point. I actually hadn't put those two together, but it's a pretty similar situation.

Because they were both about the optics, with no facts and absolutely no information about what happened before or during said meetings, which were held with persons being investigated or spouses of persons being investigated.

Lynch, however, was smart enough to recuse herself. For some reason, Nunes isn't.
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe



Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R/CA) should immediately recuse himself. Nunes has shattered even any pretense of investigative-independence with his secret White House meetings.

What is actually needed is for Congress to remove itself altogether from an investigative stature (far too much partisanship) and appoint a mutually acceptable non-partisan independent investigator with subpoena power and open hearings on the Hill. The American people deserve to know with certainty whether or not the Trump administration is compromised (kompromat) via Kremlin influence.

The only thing more pathetic than the Democratic Party being reduced to spin, fake outrage, lies and innuendo in order to protect their ex-President is the fact that the Democrats are actually DOING all that. Why? Do they REALLY want to protect Obama's legacy THAT much? Do they actually CARE about Obama?

Or is there something ELSE they fear?

Whatever their motivation, they...along with their compliant media...are going to extraordinary effort to prevent Nunes from engaging in his investigation. I just have to wonder what it is they are afraid he'll uncover?
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

Nunes couldn't have entered the White House grounds and used a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) without the express permission of a White House insider. The same permissions procedure applies to whoever Nunes met with in the SCIF. In addirion, someone in the Trump White House had to provide Nunes with SCIF computer log-on credentials.

Said procedures are routine and automated. If you're on the access roster you get in. There should be a log somewhere with when he signed in and who was working at the time. That said, you don't publicly out people who hold clearances as that instantly creates a security risk.

As for the computer log-on, that would be needed if he actually logged onto a computer, which I'd bet money he did not. It would be someone else that either showed the information in a briefing format, actual reports, or it could have even been printed off reports.
 
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Because they were both about the optics, with no facts and absolutely no information about what happened before or during said meetings, which were held with persons being investigated or spouses of persons being investigated.

Lynch, however, was smart enough to recuse herself. For some reason, Nunes isn't.

Ummm...

Lynch never "recused" herself.
 
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He can't share it with anyone. If anyone else on the committee wants to view said information they can go to the White House and view it for themselves. Their own laziness or lack of integrity is the only thing keeping them from seeing it.
I don't believe that is true. My understanding is if the information is contained within the executive branch, then one from the executive branch would have to grant access to the information.

Perhaps someone with a little more knowledge about these matters could verify, but that is my understanding.
 
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I don't believe that is true. My understanding is if the information is contained within the executive branch, then one from the executive branch would have to grant access to the information.

Perhaps someone with a little more knowledge about these matters could verify, but that is my understanding.

That's what was brought up to Sean Spicer at the presser and he seemed to agree with what you just said here.
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

Ummm...

Lynch never "recused" herself.
You are correct. She did, however, remove herself from the decision as to whether or not prosecution of Clinton should occur.

Technically you are correct, but generally speaking, Tres is also correct.
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

Ummm...

Lynch never "recused" herself.

Ummm.....and I suspect you know what I was referring to, but let's play word games and ignore the point. Amirite?

Let me rephrase it. Lynch was smart enough to "remove" herself from the decision over Clinton's emails because of the optics of her meeting with Bill Clinton.
 
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That's what was brought up to Sean Spicer at the presser and he seemed to agree with what you just said here.

It's pretty silly for a certain Fishdude here to suggest the only reason the other members of the Committee don't have this information is because of "laziness."

That's just whack.
 
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chuck Schumer said Nunes should step down so Nunes should step down? How ridiculous. Someone call a press conference and ask Schumer to step down.

Has anyone informed the Democrats they lost big in 2016 yet?

The GOP won an election, not a crown, I for one am lip smacking over the public hearings, get to the orange bottom of this farce of WH. I am old enough to remember Watergate unfolding nightly on the news. This is very reminiscent of the Nixon WH in coverup mode, what is worse, the Senate Committee has been compromised, go ahead GOP and keep smiling while Donny perverts the office, Nov 2018 will be your reckoning if you fail in your responsibility.
 
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It's pretty silly for a certain Fishdude here to suggest the only reason the other members of the Committee don't have this information is because of "laziness."

That's just whack.

Yes, all they need to do is drive to the White House, and voila! This would all be over. But all of them - every single one of them - are just lazy. This is all about laziness.

I am depressed reading the posts on this board these days from people who pretend to be Republicans or on the right. They are not using their heads and are being very dishonest. If I were you I would love all these people. They are handing the country right back over to your party.
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

That didn't answer anyone's questions.

Your questions are inane and I addressed them.

Who did he meet with?

You don't out names of people with clearances working in the intelligence field. That's a security risk.

Who signed him into the WH?

You don't out names of people involved with the security of the President. That's a security risk.

Why didn't he brief Trump that night?

Worthless question. Maybe Trump was out having dinner. Maybe he just wanted to go home for the day. This isn't an episode of 24.

Why didn't he share this important information with anyone else?

I addressed that already as well. They can go to the proper place to view said information for themselves. So what you really should be asking is why are the other members of the committee too lazy to go view it for themselves? Previously, there were 28 pages of the 9/11 commission report that you had to go to a specific place to view and you were not allowed to take notes or talk about it outside of that area. That didn't represent any vast partisan conspiracy, either, and neither does this.

How come you acted like you knew more than the rest of the world did, but you just disappointed all of us?

I only acted like someone who has ignored the hype and false narratives and spoke in the realm of reality, not conspiracy.

Clapper has nothing to do with this, unless he was the person who shared this information with Nunes. Was he?

Clapper is just an example of someone that would clearly not be able to be grouped into the false Republican/partisan conspiracy who also stated there is no evidence of wrongdoing and he had full access to view everything.

In other words, it's more data to show that this entire thing so far is a big bucket of nothing and is merely a distraction to undermine the ability of the new admin, and the Republican Congress, to get anything done.
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

You said my post better than I did. It's all about the optics here. I doubt Nunes did anything illegal and possibly didn't even do anything immoral. But what he did was optically awful and the fact that Paul Ryan either doesn't see it or doesn't agree with that to me is more concerning than anything Devin Nunes actually did.

It isn't just Democrats who are calling for him to recuse himself. I've been a Republican since I registered to vote for the first time in June of 1980. I'm a huge fan of Paul Ryan's and have floated his name for years as someone who I would love to see as the GOP candidate for POTUS. But if he does not ask Nunes to step aside from this particular investigation, I will never support Paul Ryan again. He is a smart man and has to know that Nunes' actions, pretty inexplicable as they are, require Ryan to take an action here that may not be what the Republicans want, but is in reality the best thing for the investigation and really, for the future of the party.

They need to learn independence in appearance is every bit as important as independence in fact.
 
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On one level, this is working out pretty well for the Democrats. Its been a constant drip drip drip of Russian related news and its taking a toll on Trump and his people. So maybe it if keeps at this pace over six more moths, Trump approval ratings gets down to 25% or so he has no ability at all to get anything he wants as republican members of Congress will be indifferent to him.

Then we can get the investigate new want but the person being investigated will be gelded and harmless.
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

It's pretty silly for a certain Fishdude here to suggest the only reason the other members of the Committee don't have this information is because of "laziness."

That's just whack.
Really?
Are they not aware it exists at this point in time?

As Nunes has pointed out, it is routine to go to the White House and review such administrative information.

So why haven't they gone there then?
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

Your questions are inane and I addressed them.



You don't out names of people with clearances working in the intelligence field. That's a security risk.



You don't out names of people involved with the security of the President. That's a security risk.



Worthless question. Maybe Trump was out having dinner. Maybe he just wanted to go home for the day. This is an episode of 24.



I addressed that already as well. They can go to the proper place to view said information for themselves. So what you really should be asking is why are the other members of the committee too lazy to go view it for themselves? Previously, there were 28 pages of the 9/11 commission report that you had to go to a specific place to view and you were not allowed to take notes or talk about it outside of that area. That didn't represent any vast partisan conspiracy, either, and neither does this.



I only acted like someone who has ignored the hype and false narratives and spoke in the realm of reality, not conspiracy.



Clapper is just an example of someone that would clearly not be able to be grouped into the false Republican/partisan conspiracy who also stated there is no evidence of wrongdoing and he had full access to view everything.

In other words, it's more data to show that this entire thing so far is a big bucket of nothing and is merely a distraction to undermine the ability of the new admin, and the Republican Congress, to get anything done.

In other words, you know absolutely nothing more than anyone else knows, but you dismiss everything that everyone says that you don't approve of, and you make things up that you don't know.

I already knew that.
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe



Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R/CA) should immediately recuse himself. Nunes has shattered even any pretense of investigative-independence with his secret White House meetings.

What is actually needed is for Congress to remove itself altogether from an investigative stature (far too much partisanship) and appoint a mutually acceptable non-partisan independent investigator with subpoena power and open hearings on the Hill. The American people deserve to know with certainty whether or not the Trump administration is compromised (kompromat) via Kremlin influence.

Well of course he KNOWS about all the Obama spying and FELONY leaking ! :roll:
 
Re: Calls grow for Nunes to step aside in Russia probe

lol

Look how well they have you trained.

I see you don't actually having any valid rebuttal. I accept your agreement of my statement.
 
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