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Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says

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[FONT=&quot]Republican congressional investigators expect a potential “smoking gun” establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee this week, a source told Fox News.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretapped him in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

[/FONT]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

As this digs deeper, and deeper there is but one conclusion that a rational person can come to, and that is that the outgoing Obama administration surveilled the incoming Trump administration. In an unprecidented move the last days of the Obama administration, the former President signed an order spreading sharing of this type of information to 16 separate government agencies.

Now, why do this? And my personal conclusion is that long before President Trump was elected democrats started planting the premise that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia in the publishing of revealed DNC, and Podesta emails that embarrassed the Clinton campaign, and damaged her weak campaign for President, even though top intelligence services have stated repeatedly that these revelations had "NO effect on the outcome of the vote." they have continued with selective leaks of information to carefully craft the story line, in hopes of finding something no matter how ridiculous to tie to the story line that Trump colluded with Russia.

This is why they keep trying at every turn to ask for a "special prosecutor"... They know full well, that when that happens, democrats can sit back and let said SP go forth and find anything even if it is a process charge that has nothing to do with the original reason for investigations....It is after all what happened with Libby in the Bush WH, and they are wishing for that here. I hope Republican's are dumb enough to let that happen.

Now, why is this surveillance most likely ordered from the WH in some fashion, dangerous....? Well, all I can say is that it isn't what "accepting the results of an election" look like, and it isn't what free countries do in the course of an election. It is more akin to what one might see go on when a leader of some 'banana republic' like Venezuela looses power in their elections. It's 'unAmerican' IMHO.

And sadly, all of this because democrats can not, will not accept that Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump.....

Thoughts?
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

FOX Propaganda article above said:
....Classified intelligence showing Incidental Collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes...
You can wiggle and you can twist

but "Incidental collection" is nowhere near "Obama Wiretapped Trump Tower".

The Dishonest Deflection attempt continues.

Hopefully the Trumpov Traitor and his gang, who did get caught in that large net, will get jailed despite Dishonest Clown Nunes.
 
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Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

I'm guessing someone is going to pipe in soon with something like, "Why were his guys talking to so many foreigners, hmmmmmm???"
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

I'm guessing someone is going to pipe in soon with something like, "Why were his guys talking to so many foreigners, hmmmmmm???"

Just as soon as (if not before) someone says, "Say, if the Trump admin is so worried about leaks, then why aren't they screaming at Nunes for.... wait for it.... leaking?"
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

You can wiggle and you can twist

but "Incidental collection" is nowhere near "Obama Wiretapped Trump Tower".

The Dishonest Deflection attempt continues.

Hopefully the Trumpov Traitor and his gang, who did get caught in that large net, will get jailed despite Dishonest Clown Nunes.

You do realize that this news story is not about whether a Trump tweet was true, right?
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

Just as soon as (if not before) someone says, "Say, if the Trump admin is so worried about leaks, then why aren't they screaming at Nunes for.... wait for it.... leaking?"

That's a good one too.

I'm getting the popcorn ready for the "He started it!" thread. As a libertarian, I find it funny when government malfunctions so publicly.
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

You do realize that this news story is not about whether a Trump tweet was true, right?
I realize that there is an ongoing attempt to Conflate two wholly different actions by those who would sell Out their country for partisan reasons. That includes most of the Right Wing hacks here who think this is like a Hockey Game, and just keep rooting for their team.
From Abortion to Climate, Healthcare to Trump Lies/Treason: we pre-know where they stand on every issue.
'Republicans' even switching sides on Russia for GOP loyalty.
 
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I'm guessing someone is going to pipe in soon with something like, "Why were his guys talking to so many foreigners, hmmmmmm???"

Which would be equally stupid. At this point in time, any one claiming Trump collusion with Russia is just as misinformed as those claiming that what Trump claimed about "wire taps" is true.
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

Does any one else think republicans should give on the thole "smoking gun is about to show up" thing, since they never actually are guns, and never actually smoking. It is surpassed the whole boy who cried wolf thing and moved into the realm of the totally absurd.
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

I realize that there is an ongoing attempt to Conflate two wholly different actions by those who would sell Out their country for partisan reasons. That includes most of the Right Wing hacks here who think this is like a Hockey Game, and just keep rooting for their team.
From Abortion to Climate, Healthcare to Trump Lies/Treason: we pre-know where they stand on every issue.
'Republicans' even switching sides on Russia GOP loyalty.

Really? You really want to write such a post?

Extreme-Irony.gif
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

Does any one else think republicans should give on the thole "smoking gun is about to show up" thing, since they never actually are guns, and never actually smoking. It is surpassed the whole boy who cried wolf thing and moved into the realm of the totally absurd.

Both parties stepped off into the twilight zone right after the November 2016 general election. Some of their surrogates and sycophants were already there, they just went deeper.
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

After all the crap the DNC was caught doing, is there really anyone who doesn't believe this spying/wiretapping was going on? Seriously?
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

You can wiggle and you can twist
but "Incidental collection" is nowhere near "Obama Wiretapped Trump Tower".
.

You cant have it both ways. They were obviously surveilled and when was that exactly?

Parsing it to fit your narrative is so....typical.

And if you really want to be angry about the story itself then direct it at the newspapers who published those many stories in the first place.
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

As this digs deeper, and deeper there is but one conclusion that a rational person can come to, and that is that the outgoing Obama administration surveilled the incoming Trump administration. In an unprecidented move the last days of the Obama administration, the former President signed an order spreading sharing of this type of information to 16 separate government agencies.

Now, why do this? And my personal conclusion is that long before President Trump was elected democrats started planting the premise that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia in the publishing of revealed DNC, and Podesta emails that embarrassed the Clinton campaign, and damaged her weak campaign for President, even though top intelligence services have stated repeatedly that these revelations had "NO effect on the outcome of the vote." they have continued with selective leaks of information to carefully craft the story line, in hopes of finding something no matter how ridiculous to tie to the story line that Trump colluded with Russia.

This is why they keep trying at every turn to ask for a "special prosecutor"... They know full well, that when that happens, democrats can sit back and let said SP go forth and find anything even if it is a process charge that has nothing to do with the original reason for investigations....It is after all what happened with Libby in the Bush WH, and they are wishing for that here. I hope Republican's are dumb enough to let that happen.

Now, why is this surveillance most likely ordered from the WH in some fashion, dangerous....? Well, all I can say is that it isn't what "accepting the results of an election" look like, and it isn't what free countries do in the course of an election. It is more akin to what one might see go on when a leader of some 'banana republic' like Venezuela looses power in their elections. It's 'unAmerican' IMHO.

And sadly, all of this because democrats can not, will not accept that Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump.....

Thoughts?

The desperation of Trump supporters is reaching epic proportions. Carry on. It's great comedy.
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

Does any one else think republicans should give on the thole "smoking gun is about to show up" thing, since they never actually are guns, and never actually smoking. It is surpassed the whole boy who cried wolf thing and moved into the realm of the totally absurd.

Even if there WERE a smoking gun.........after months of talking about it........the gun would have cooled off by now and any smoke would have long dissipated.

:mrgreen:
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

As this digs deeper, and deeper there is but one conclusion that a rational person can come to, and that is that the outgoing Obama administration surveilled the incoming Trump administration. In an unprecidented move the last days of the Obama administration, the former President signed an order spreading sharing of this type of information to 16 separate government agencies.

Now, why do this? And my personal conclusion is that long before President Trump was elected democrats started planting the premise that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia in the publishing of revealed DNC, and Podesta emails that embarrassed the Clinton campaign, and damaged her weak campaign for President, even though top intelligence services have stated repeatedly that these revelations had "NO effect on the outcome of the vote." they have continued with selective leaks of information to carefully craft the story line, in hopes of finding something no matter how ridiculous to tie to the story line that Trump colluded with Russia.

This is why they keep trying at every turn to ask for a "special prosecutor"... They know full well, that when that happens, democrats can sit back and let said SP go forth and find anything even if it is a process charge that has nothing to do with the original reason for investigations....It is after all what happened with Libby in the Bush WH, and they are wishing for that here. I hope Republican's are dumb enough to let that happen.

Now, why is this surveillance most likely ordered from the WH in some fashion, dangerous....? Well, all I can say is that it isn't what "accepting the results of an election" look like, and it isn't what free countries do in the course of an election. It is more akin to what one might see go on when a leader of some 'banana republic' like Venezuela looses power in their elections. It's 'unAmerican' IMHO.

And sadly, all of this because democrats can not, will not accept that Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump.....

Thoughts?
Seems a reasonable set of conclusions.

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Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

You cant have it both ways. They were obviously surveilled and when was that exactly?

Parsing it to fit your narrative is so....typical.

And if you really want to be angry about the story itself then direct it at the newspapers who published those many stories in the first place.
And there it is!
Ironic as it gets.
Conflating people caught up in Incidental Foreign agent surveillance with "Obama Wiretapped Trump Tower."
That surveillance did unexpectedly yield a whole Cast of Trump campaign guys! and subsequently spawned additional investigation.
Thanks
Bye!
 
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I dont even know why this is a question. The media reported on the actions of the Obama administartion last year regarding wiretapping Trump and hios campaign.

https://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/

Keep in mind...these are people that HATE Trump providing an article the DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION. There are numerous incidents of the media reporting on this...and suddenly everyone is playing dumb because Trump tweeted that they actually did it?

How can you claim it was not the Obama administration (DOJ headed by Loretta Lynch).
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

You can wiggle and you can twist

but "Incidental collection" is nowhere near "Obama Wiretapped Trump Tower".

The Dishonest Deflection attempt continues.

Hopefully the Trumpov Traitor and his gang, who did get caught in that large net, will get jailed despite Dishonest Clown Nunes.

No deflection at all....See, I think democrats are starting to smell their own outing coming to fruition here, and are scared to death that this could be the most epic crash and burn of a political party in history....
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

I'm guessing someone is going to pipe in soon with something like, "Why were his guys talking to so many foreigners, hmmmmmm???"

Hi Gonzo....See, this latest information being "incidental" Doesn't mean that ANYONE from the Trump campaign were talking to foreigners...It could be, and most likely is two foreign diplomats talking ABOUT what they say Trump or people caught in this were saying....Total heresay....My question is 'who ordered this "unmasked"?
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

Just as soon as (if not before) someone says, "Say, if the Trump admin is so worried about leaks, then why aren't they screaming at Nunes for.... wait for it.... leaking?"

Oh come on....Did you type that with a straight face?
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

As this digs deeper, and deeper there is but one conclusion that a rational person can come to, and that is that the outgoing Obama administration surveilled the incoming Trump administration. In an unprecidented move the last days of the Obama administration, the former President signed an order spreading sharing of this type of information to 16 separate government agencies.

Now, why do this? And my personal conclusion is that long before President Trump was elected democrats started planting the premise that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia in the publishing of revealed DNC, and Podesta emails that embarrassed the Clinton campaign, and damaged her weak campaign for President, even though top intelligence services have stated repeatedly that these revelations had "NO effect on the outcome of the vote." they have continued with selective leaks of information to carefully craft the story line, in hopes of finding something no matter how ridiculous to tie to the story line that Trump colluded with Russia.

This is why they keep trying at every turn to ask for a "special prosecutor"... They know full well, that when that happens, democrats can sit back and let said SP go forth and find anything even if it is a process charge that has nothing to do with the original reason for investigations....It is after all what happened with Libby in the Bush WH, and they are wishing for that here. I hope Republican's are dumb enough to let that happen.

Now, why is this surveillance most likely ordered from the WH in some fashion, dangerous....? Well, all I can say is that it isn't what "accepting the results of an election" look like, and it isn't what free countries do in the course of an election. It is more akin to what one might see go on when a leader of some 'banana republic' like Venezuela looses power in their elections. It's 'unAmerican' IMHO.

And sadly, all of this because democrats can not, will not accept that Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump.....

Thoughts?

I think the only smoking gun is the effort by Trump supporters to Justify Trump's lies. Which is now becoming a smoking cannon.
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

Really? You really want to write such a post?

Extreme-Irony.gif

Thanks for giving me something that is worthy of responding to. LOL! ;)
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

Which would be equally stupid. At this point in time, any one claiming Trump collusion with Russia is just as misinformed as those claiming that what Trump claimed about "wire taps" is true.

Really? Then why was the claim of collusion with Russia all over the news, month after month? And why did one Democratic politician after another continue to repeat that claim of collusion? Maybe you can also tell us which officials working for Mr. Obama gave reporters classified information obtained through electronic surveillance, including the names of the Trump associates who were incidentally involved in that surveillance. How, for example, did part of General Flynn's December 29 phone conversation with the Russian Ambassador become public, unless someone working for Obama gave that information, with Flynn's identity revealed, to a reporter?
 
Re: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source

And there it is!
Ironic as it gets.
Conflating people caught up in Incidental Foreign agent surveillance with "Obama Wiretapped Trump Tower."
That surveillance did unexpectedly yield a whole Cast of Trump campaign guys! and subsequently spawned additional investigation.
Thanks
Bye!

Uhh listen to the report again. The surveillance had NOTHING to do with foreign anything on many occasions.

clearly illegal

buh bye.
 
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