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Undocumented Immigrant Accused of Raping Classmate

I think the last thing this Thread needs is a Graph of who commits crimes ... let's just hope the victim gets everything she needs to live a normal healthy life, and be grateful it wasn't fatal.

This just illustrates your complete lack of understanding of what even occurred here. There's no amount of therapy that erases a double rape in a bathroom stall. God, some people are just clueless.
 
Sanchez-Milian was stopped by ICE almost a year ago, and was never deported. The Obama administration probably categorized him as a 'dreamer'. Other stories list the victims age as 14, of course they would target a girl that age, they are animals.

The rape took place in the same school district where many members of congress live. Let's see if they act now.

There was already a thread on this from a few days ago.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news-mainstream-media/281685-two-immigrant-high-school-students-raped-fourteen-year-old-girl-bathroom.html

By the way, a rapist is an "animal" if he targets an unwilling female of any age.
 
The illegal invader didn't rape one of their own so congress will still be divided along party lines.

Huh? This is about rape. Which one would be "for" it and which one would be "against" it? Rape is rape, and is a very serious matter. Congress I don't believe spends their days litigating rape cases.
 
The number of illegal immigrants who should be allowed to commit crimes ought to be 0 because illegal immigrants aren't supposed to be in this country.

Yes. The number one duty of a government is to protect its citizens from threats - both domestic and foreign.

Any government that cannot or will not do this to the best of its ability is useless.
 
How ironic that the left usually cites these violent crimes as one reason the illegals should be given sanctuary. By opening the borders without vetting, we are letting in the very people the victims were trying to escape.

Yep. Secure borders not only benefits natural born citizens, it also makes the country a better place to live and visit for non-citizens.

The only ones who'd oppose secure borders are criminals and their apologists.
 
There was already a thread on this from a few days ago.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news-mainstream-media/281685-two-immigrant-high-school-students-raped-fourteen-year-old-girl-bathroom.html

By the way, a rapist is an "animal" if he targets an unwilling female of any age.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, he was enrolled as a high school freshman at the age of 18, by some very clueless people. He probably would have raped any woman or girl he had access to.
 
This country has had immigration laws longer than I've been alive ... why would anyone think it's mean now?

because we have people /politicians/ state governments/who do not want the law enforced because they continue to bring up saying it hurts people emotionally and separates people, if the law is enforced
 
I love how the DEMOCRATS keep saying once an illegal (of course they say undocumented worker as to make it seems less bad), but they say once an illegal COMMITS A CRIME (or breaks our laws) hmm duh
they BROKE OUR LAWS TO GET HERE RETARDS!
 
Very horrific crime. Just to point out though that kid would not be a dreamer.

From my understanding of the news around the metro area, the individual was not a dreamer. Rather, he was one of the various "undocumented unaccompanied minors" that were found and bussed to various parts of the country under the Obama Administration, as they awaited hearings that were generally put on significant delay.
 
I guess you think you're being clever here, but how about putting your partisanship aside for just a bit?
While I'll never defend the words of the poster you replied to, I do find it strange you didn't say the same thing to the OP.

This is about a child who was brutally raped and sodomized
No it isn't. This thread is about trying to portray immigrants as monsters, by taking one person of a demographic out of the millions which exist and use it to color the opinions of people about the demographic. I could be mistaken, but I suspect you'd have a hard time finding the opening poster creating a thread about a white person raping an underage child, but you can see plenty of threads created about the presumed danger of immigrants.

This thread is not about violence against children or violence against women, this thread is exploiting violence against children and/or women to demonize a demographic the opening poster has shown a habit of criticizing.

So, as I said before, I find it strange you didn't ask the OP to put their partisanship aside. Don't get me wrong, I find any sexual assault by any person to be offensive, but let's not pretend this thread was created to express sympathy for the child. Because it wasn't.
 
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While I'll never defend the words of the poster you replied to, I do find it strange you didn't say the same thing to the OP.

I guess I'll just have to belabor the obvious here: The OP didn't say anything remotely approaching the ugly stupidity of only Republicans rape, and this is why Trump switched parties. :roll:

No it isn't. This thread is about trying to portray immigrants as monsters, by taking one person of a demographic out of the millions which exist and use it to color the opinions of people about the demographic. I could be mistaken, but I suspect you'd have a hard time finding the opening poster creating a thread about a white person raping an underage child, but you can see plenty of threads created about the presumed danger of immigrants.

You see exploitation and demonization of an entire demographic because this is what you want to see. The thread isn't about children being raped in school; it's about an immigrant who should not have been here who raped this student.

This thread is not about violence against children or violence against women, this thread is exploiting violence against children and/or women to demonize a demographic the opening poster has shown a habit of criticizing.

So, as I said before, I find it strange you didn't ask the OP to put their partisanship aside. Don't get me wrong, I find any sexual assault by any person to be offensive, but let's not pretend this thread was created to express sympathy for the child. Because it wasn't.

I think the intent was to express outrage that somebody who shouldn't be in this country committed a heinous crime because he was here. I think every illegal immigrant who commits crimes (and many do repeatedly...if you aren't familiar with "catch and release") should be decried or "demonized," if you prefer.

Ridding this nation of child-rapists is a problem; ridding this nation of those who are child-rapists and here illegally, which makes them criminals already, is quite another.

Sorry you can't see the distinction, but I'm not surprised since you didn't have a problem with the silly "only Republicans rape." Not everybody is as partisan as you are.

The OP referenced one person, Sanchez-Milian. I didn't see it as "exploitive" or "demonizing." The point is that Sanchez-Milian should not have been here. This rape shouldn't have happened.
 
While I'll never defend the words of the poster you replied to, I do find it strange you didn't say the same thing to the OP.

No it isn't. This thread is about trying to portray immigrants as monsters, by taking one person of a demographic out of the millions which exist and use it to color the opinions of people about the demographic. I could be mistaken, but I suspect you'd have a hard time finding the opening poster creating a thread about a white person raping an underage child, but you can see plenty of threads created about the presumed danger of immigrants.

This thread is not about violence against children or violence against women, this thread is exploiting violence against children and/or women to demonize a demographic the opening poster has shown a habit of criticizing.

So, as I said before, I find it strange you didn't ask the OP to put their partisanship aside. Don't get me wrong, I find any sexual assault by any person to be offensive, but let's not pretend this thread was created to express sympathy for the child. Because it wasn't.

Well then, let me clarify things for you. This thread was posted by the OP to shine a light on a story that you don't want told. There are daily instances of Americans being assaulted, seeing their neighborhoods decline into gang warfare, and children being bullied at school by newcomers who are here illegally. And not everyone is fortunate enough to isolate themselves from these occurrences while preaching about how great illegal immigration is. The child described in the OP is one such person.

I do have much sympathy for the 14 year old girl who was assaulted. I also have outrage towards those who have created the environment for children like her to be left as prey for people who disregard her human rights.
 
Sanchez-Milian was stopped by ICE almost a year ago, and was never deported. The Obama administration probably categorized him as a 'dreamer'. Other stories list the victims age as 14, of course they would target a girl that age, they are animals.

The rape took place in the same school district where many members of congress live. Let's see if they act now.

Fake news. "Undocumented" my ass, illegal alien.
 
I guess I'll just have to belabor the obvious here: The OP didn't say anything remotely approaching the ugly stupidity of only Republicans rape, and this is why Trump switched parties. :roll:



You see exploitation and demonization of an entire demographic because this is what you want to see. The thread isn't about children being raped in school; it's about an immigrant who should not have been here who raped this student.



I think the intent was to express outrage that somebody who shouldn't be in this country committed a heinous crime because he was here. I think every illegal immigrant who commits crimes (and many do repeatedly...if you aren't familiar with "catch and release") should be decried or "demonized," if you prefer.

Ridding this nation of child-rapists is a problem; ridding this nation of those who are child-rapists and here illegally, which makes them criminals already, is quite another.

Sorry you can't see the distinction, but I'm not surprised since you didn't have a problem with the silly "only Republicans rape." Not everybody is as partisan as you are.

The OP referenced one person, Sanchez-Milian. I didn't see it as "exploitive" or "demonizing." The point is that Sanchez-Milian should not have been here. This rape shouldn't have happened.

Hear hear nota, very well said. The sad and pathetic thing is, the poster knows damn well what the purpose of this thread is. These false narratives, especially in cases such as this, are truly sickening.
 
Well then, let me clarify things for you. This thread was posted by the OP to shine a light on a story that you don't want told. There are daily instances of Americans being assaulted, seeing their neighborhoods decline into gang warfare, and children being bullied at school by newcomers who are here illegally. And not everyone is fortunate enough to isolate themselves from these occurrences while preaching about how great illegal immigration is. The child described in the OP is one such person.

I do have much sympathy for the 14 year old girl who was assaulted. I also have outrage towards those who have created the environment for children like her to be left as prey for people who disregard her human rights.

You mean like the absolute MORONS, who would place an adult unknown quantity, illegal alien, as a high school freshman? These idiots need to be held accountable, or this **** will never stop. In other words, this **** will never stop.
 
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The OP didn't say anything remotely approaching the ugly stupidity of only Republicans rape, and this is why Trump switched parties.
You don't think exploiting the rape of a child to push one's partisan agenda against an entire group of people is roughly equivalent? Really? How exactly do you come to that conclusion without sounding partisan yourself?

Again, don't get me wrong. I'm not defending the poster to whom you replied...but I find it incredibly puzzling you think saying only Republicans get raped is incredibly vile, but exploiting the rape of a child to influence people to think all immigrants are monsters somehow doesn't rise to the same level.

You see exploitation and demonization of an entire demographic because this is what you want to see. The thread isn't about children being raped in school; it's about an immigrant who should not have been here who raped this student.
...wow. You cannot be serious right now.

This thread is about maligning ALL immigrants by continuing a pattern of threads created to demonize them using individual examples to suggest a pattern of the whole. I am absolutely flabbergasted as to how you can defend, in any way, the idea the OP is somehow more morally acceptable than the person to whom you replied. Seriously, I'm flabbergasted.

I think the intent was to express outrage that somebody who shouldn't be in this country committed a heinous crime because he was here.
Bull****. No other way to say it. This thread fits a pattern, a pattern any objective person would notice in a heartbeat.

I think every illegal immigrant who commits crimes (and many do repeatedly...if you aren't familiar with "catch and release") should be decried or "demonized," if you prefer.
How about when white people do it? Because I could provide you numerous examples of white men raping or sexually assaulting children...why do you think the OP never posts threads about those? Is it okay to rape and assault if you look like you're "supposed to be here"?

Obviously your answer to that will be "no", so why then the distinction? Are immigrants the only ones who commit crimes or sexually assault people? No...then why do we never see those threads from the OP?

I'm sorry, either you're deliberately choosing to not see the problem or you're only outraged when immigrants rape. I suspect (and sincerely hope) it's the former.

Ridding this nation of child-rapists is a problem; ridding this nation of those who are child-rapists and here illegally, which makes them criminals already, is quite another.
....you have got to be kidding me.

Are you really trying to suggest child rape is somehow worse if it's done by an immigrant? Really? Because I don't believe I can think of a word which accurately represents the lack of logic in such a thought.

Child rape, regardless of who committed the crime, is the issue...and the OP exploited the rape of a child to push a partisan agenda, but you only took issue with the person who cast a useless partisan shot at Trump. Unreal.
 
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Sorry you can't see the distinction, but I'm not surprised since you didn't have a problem with the silly "only Republicans rape."
Who said I didn't? Don't make things up which are not true.

Speaking of making things up, he didn't say only Republicans rape, he said only Republicans GET raped, which is why Trump switched. In other words, he cast a useless partisan shot at the President. I don't support the comment, but the idea that is somehow worse and more partisan than the OP is just nonsense.

Not everybody is as partisan as you are.
Says the person who is seemingly trying to claim child rape is somehow worse if the last name is Sanchez, but not Smith.

I'm not partisan at all. The comment you replied to was nonsense. But the fact you chose to respond to that, rather than to the person who was exploiting the rape of a child for political purposes, is staggering.

The OP referenced one person, Sanchez-Milian.
Really? What pattern do you notice in these threads?

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...ult-toddler-2-stabbings-deported-4-times.html
https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...-strangled-american-teenager-may-go-free.html
https://www.debatepolitics.com/euro...ants-riot-over-poor-cell-phone-reception.html
https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...opeans-favor-trump-style-immigration-ban.html
https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...ported-committed-more-crimes-even-murder.html
https://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/278432-finland-rape-up-10-3-1-year.html
https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...n-8-years-prison-and-certain-deportation.html
https://www.debatepolitics.com/euro...ts-stripped-citizenship-ordered-deported.html

Seriously, what pattern do you notice? I'll give you a hint...check who started the thread. By the way, that was just the first page of the threads started page.


But sure, go ahead and pretend this thread wasn't about exploiting the victim of a horrendous crime for political gain.
I didn't see it as "exploitive" or "demonizing."
Then you should have no problem showing me all the threads the OP created in which he posted news when a white man raped a girl. Right?

The point is that Sanchez-Milian should not have been here. This rape shouldn't have happened.
You're half right. The point SHOULD be the rape shouldn't have happened, regardless of who committed assault...but that's not the point of this thread and you damn well know it. The fact you don't find this thread to be absolutely vile is severely disappointing to me.
 
Well then, let me clarify things for you.
No thanks, your intentions are very clear, with plenty of evidence to prove them.
The sad and pathetic thing is, the poster knows damn well what the purpose of this thread is.
You're right I know what the purpose of this thread is and I've made it very clear what the purpose of the thread is. What, do you think there simply aren't stories of white people sexually assaulting children?
 
I really don't understand why you're bringing race into it. If a "white" person is here illegally and rapes a child, I'm going to say again what I already have: This is a rape that shouldn't have happened.

Again belaboring the obvious, no rape should happen to anybody. But crimes committed by people who should have already been reported, should not have happened. They shouldn't be here, whether they're committing crimes or not.

I hope this clarifies.
 
I really don't understand why you're bringing race into it.
Because that's the whole point of the thread, how do you not understand that? This thread is intended to cast aspersions on immigrants by highlighting the misdeeds of the very few. Again, it's a pattern. See my last post for a whole host of links.

If a "white" person is here illegally and rapes a child, I'm going to say again what I already have: This is a rape that shouldn't have happened.
Yes, but if a white person raped this child, you wouldn't not have heard of it because this thread would not have been created. Which brings me back to my original point, which is the fact you chastised someone who took a useless partisan shot at Trump but seemingly are defending the fact this thread is exploiting the rape of a child for partisan gain.

Again belaboring the obvious, no rape should happen to anybody.
We agree on this...but this thread wasn't created to express sympathy for the child, just like the other 8 threads to which I linked were intended for any reason other than to demonize a group of people based on the actions of a few.

But crimes committed by people who should have already been reported, should not have happened.
It doesn't work that way. No rape should happen...you trying to create a distinction that one is somehow worse is silly.

Again, this thread was created for the sole intent of exploiting a victim of rape, in order to push a political agenda. The fact you took umbrage with a shot at Trump, but not at the exploitation of child's assault is ridiculous.

I hope this clarifies.
No, because you STILL haven't condemned as partisan, or called vile, the comments in the OP, only the comments of a poster with whom you seemingly disagree politically.
 
The OP talks about Sanchez-Milian, not all illegal immigrants or immigrants. Why can't you see this?
 
The OP talks about Sanchez-Milian, not all illegal immigrants or immigrants. Why can't you see this?
Did you not see the list of links I laid at your feet? Stop trying to pretend this isn't what it is. You know exactly what this is, you know the pattern it represents and the fact you are essentially supporting it is ridiculous.

This thread exploits the rape of a child for political gain. Where is your condemnation of that?
 
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