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Parliament: Armed man 'shot dead by police after 'driving into pedestrians[W:209,237]

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But they were still defeats. And Santa Anna was not one of history's greatest generals.

Houston had to be brilliant in order just to survive. And, once again, he wasn't exactly facing a varsity opponent. Against a better trained or motivated opponent, who knows what the outcome would have been.

Santa Anna and Napoleon have a lot in common, as neither one faced well trained & supplied armies when they were beaten. Your turning Houston's victory into something less only shows your opinion, not the facts.
 
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Ahhh..... I see.

What does America have to do with what happened in London, and the contents of this thread?



Nice knowing you.....

But youo waste my time. Please take a remedial reading course or something
 
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Nice knowing you.....

But youo waste my time. Please take a remedial reading course or something

You could take a spelling course before you go the smug route next time. :lamo
 
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The attacker was allegedly a British national who attempted to join ISIS in Syria. Unconfirmed as of right now but if this is true its going to wake people up a little bit about the threat of our own citizens leaving and coming back from these regions.

Thanks for the update. I wonder why ISIS would have rejected his allegiance?

Any more details about him, like was he really Asian as one witness said? Any name yet?
 
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The attacker was allegedly a British national who attempted to join ISIS in Syria. Unconfirmed as of right now but if this is true its going to wake people up a little bit about the threat of our own citizens leaving and coming back from these regions.

It is to be and was expected. The critical factor is identifying these people an apprehending them
As ISIL loses ground in ME, these people whether from the UK, other EU countries, or Russian areas, will conduct attacks.
 
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I guess knife man didn't think to rent a truck.

Nor make explosives to the level of a high school chemistry student. The only good thing about modern day terroists VS those in the 70s and 80s (at least in a European context) is their utter stupidity, hence why they have killed less people.
 
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You seem to forget San Jacinto came after a string of Texan defeats. You also seem to forget that it was sheer luck that Santa Anna was dumb enough to have his army take a siesta instead of staying alert which helped the Texans gain such complete suprise, demoralizing the Mexicans enough that it was more a rout than a battle.

Against a competent foe that simply would not have happened.

You should really stop your wiggling.

You clearly have no knowledge of military history.

The Texans were not just superior in weapons, skill with weapons, physical fitness, intelligence and tactics.........

They also stayed awake for a battle.

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He made his point without a gun.

Jihad.

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Trying to claim this as a victory for gun control is stupid. People are hurt. As guy was shot. Proof positive that bad people are bad wherever you go.

Well said. Violence can be made without a gun.


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People who know how to use a knife will be able to get handguns from cops if they wish to

I disagree....the assumption that one can "easily" obtain a gun in Britain or Canada is pretty thin. I know it is TOO easy to get a gun in America. But I have also been a reporter and seen what happens in this city when someone SEES someone with a firearm of any type. All available cars code three, total SWAT tactics, breech formation they go to war

The code is "ten five four" = "man with a gun."

We see a gun and go to war, I think you're assumption is wrong.
 
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Trying to claim this as a victory for gun control is stupid. People are hurt. As guy was shot. Proof positive that bad people are bad wherever you go.
Well said. Violence can be made without a gun.

My point is about terrorism, not violence.

These low-tech attacks are remindful of 9/11.

Everyday objects are used to kill and maim significant numbers of people.......thus maintaining the grip of terror on the throats of common people who walk those streets every day.

JIHAD!!!

Maybe coming to your neighborhood. Maybe to you.

Small, low tech actions........but effective.

Extreme VETTING NEEDED!!!!

Extreme surveillance needed on Muslims.

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Just for the record:
This had nothing to do with America, with Trump, with Democrats, or even Demokrats.


It was a lone nutter who ran a bunch of people over and stabbed a policeman, then was killed by police.

That's all it is.

The nutter could have been "inspired" by ISIS, or the Taliban, or some such bunch of crazies, or not. It doesn't matter. It was a crazy person who went on a rampage. It happens all the time, all over the world, unfortunately.
 
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4 people died, including the attacker.

Don't get me wrong, it's horrible. My friend was apparently on the bridge only 10 minutes before. But...

2-3 people die in London every weekend, yet we get this outcry just because.... the attacker was Muslim? It was in public?? I've got friends marking themselves safe on facebook, prayforlondon is trending worldwide etc etc. If all lives matter why do only care about murders by muslims? British leaders are talking about how we do not cower before terrorism, but maybe we should start by not prescribing thousands more times publicity on these kind of deaths than any others.

Kinda ridiculous.

This coming from a born and raised Londoner.
 
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I hate to say it... this is going to be forgotten. Relatively quickly. Look at the Left today. It's as if 911 did not happen.

That's just not right. I'm no fan of the Left, but many people on both sides lost people on 9/11, so I doubt very much it is forgotten.
 
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4 people died, including the attacker.

Don't get me wrong, it's horrible. My friend was apparently on the bridge only 10 minutes before. But...

2-3 people die in London every weekend, yet we get this outcry just because.... the attacker was Muslim? It was in public?? I've got friends marking themselves safe on facebook, prayforlondon is trending worldwide etc etc. If all lives matter why do only care about murders by muslims? British leaders are talking about how we do not cower before terrorism, but maybe we should start by not prescribing thousands more times publicity on these kind of deaths than any others.

Kinda ridiculous.

This coming from a born and raised Londoner.

It was a planned attack on a democratic hub of the world in the grounds of parliament none the less...
 
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Thanks for the update. I wonder why ISIS would have rejected his allegiance?

Any more details about him, like was he really Asian as one witness said? Any name yet?

He is currently refusing to answer questions.
 
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4 people died, including the attacker.

Don't get me wrong, it's horrible. My friend was apparently on the bridge only 10 minutes before. But...

2-3 people die in London every weekend, yet we get this outcry just because.... the attacker was Muslim? It was in public?? I've got friends marking themselves safe on facebook, prayforlondon is trending worldwide etc etc. If all lives matter why do only care about murders by muslims? British leaders are talking about how we do not cower before terrorism, but maybe we should start by not prescribing thousands more times publicity on these kind of deaths than any others.

Kinda ridiculous.

This coming from a born and raised Londoner.

I get your point but I think there are a few noteworthy points in this story (I'm ignoring all the "Muslims!" screaming):

It was an attack of mass proportion using a vehicle primarily, and then a knife (which is rare, thank goodness)
It was centered as you know in one of the most important areas of London - Parliament

That's why I think this is a big story. I don't think these 4 peoples' deaths are any more horrific than the single person who gets killed in London this weekend. But like here, we have deaths every day too, and the ones that make national news usually have something "unique" about them.
 
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It was a planned attack on a democratic hub of the world in the grounds of parliament none the less...

Exactly. The attacker may or may not have been a Muslim. A planned attack on a democratic hub is an attack on democracy. That the attacker was or wasn't a Muslim isn't relevant.

How did the Muslim community react? Were there thousands of them dancing in the streets like there were (according to Trump) after the attack on the WTC?

I don't believe there was.
 
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It was a planned attack

Fair enough

on a democratic hub of the world

Like every other crime and homicide in London

in the grounds of parliament none the less...

Westminster Bridge is hardly a locked down zone. Not as if it's particularly difficult to get there or cause chaos there.

Sorry, I know this is terrible for all the victims, but I fail to see the political or moral significance this holds over the same tragedy that happens on a regular basis in the capital (apart from what we artificially give it - which as an aside, I also think plays right into the hands of terrorists).
 
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I get your point but I think there are a few noteworthy points in this story (I'm ignoring all the "Muslims!" screaming):

It was an attack of mass proportion using a vehicle primarily, and then a knife (which is rare, thank goodness)
It was centered as you know in one of the most important areas of London - Parliament

That's why I think this is a big story. I don't think these 4 peoples' deaths are any more horrific than the single person who gets killed in London this weekend. But like here, we have deaths every day too, and the ones that make national news usually have something "unique" about them.

The London 7/7 bombings were an attack of mass proportion. Politically, morally etc. They were a significant attack on my country.

Here we have the (unfortunate, of course) death of two bystanders, a police officer and the attacked himself. Now, of course that's a tragedy, but again, I fail to see the political or moral significance of this relative to the coverage it is getting. Yes it was at the houses of parliament (Westminster bridge really) but it's not as if that's a super locked down area. It's a heavily trafficked bridge that anyone can get to. It's in the middle of a massively densely populated city.

And I will say that of course it has more political significance than someone dying of an overdose on the street but the outcry has been ridiculous really. People loving drama more than anything. Like I said to Higgins, the only thing that the excessive coverage is really going to achieve here is the emboldening of people like him. If ISIS go ahead and call this guy a martyr and it comes out on national news then other people are going to want to try the same thing.
 
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The London 7/7 bombings were an attack of mass proportion. Politically, morally etc. They were a significant attack on my country.

Here we have the (unfortunate, of course) death of two bystanders, a police officer and the attacked himself. Now, of course that's a tragedy, but again, I fail to see the political or moral significance of this relative to the coverage it is getting. Yes it was at the houses of parliament (Westminster bridge really) but it's not as if that's a super locked down area. It's a heavily trafficked bridge that anyone can get to. It's in the middle of a massively densely populated city.

And I will say that of course it has more political significance than someone dying of an overdose on the street but the outcry has been ridiculous really. People loving drama more than anything. Like I said to Higgins, the only thing that the excessive coverage is really going to achieve here is the emboldening of people like him. If ISIS go ahead and call this guy a martyr and it comes out on national news then other people are going to want to try the same thing.


Yes I know it's not a locked down area. I was just there less than 3 weeks ago and stood in the exact spot the killer was apprehended and snapped this photo of the police standing in front of me, my husband and my kids.

I agree we shouldn't play into ISIS' hands. But the sad reality is I truly believe people want to make a big deal of this because they want a Muslim connection. Look at the posts in this thread.

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A 5th person is now reported dead.
 
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The London 7/7 bombings were an attack of mass proportion. Politically, morally etc. They were a significant attack on my country.

Here we have the (unfortunate, of course) death of two bystanders, a police officer and the attacked himself. Now, of course that's a tragedy, but again, I fail to see the political or moral significance of this relative to the coverage it is getting. Yes it was at the houses of parliament (Westminster bridge really) but it's not as if that's a super locked down area. It's a heavily trafficked bridge that anyone can get to. It's in the middle of a massively densely populated city.

And I will say that of course it has more political significance than someone dying of an overdose on the street but the outcry has been ridiculous really. People loving drama more than anything. Like I said to Higgins, the only thing that the excessive coverage is really going to achieve here is the emboldening of people like him. If ISIS go ahead and call this guy a martyr and it comes out on national news then other people are going to want to try the same thing.

You do realise the attacker was killed trying to enter the houses of Parliament. It wasn't just on the bridge.
 
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Attacker 'was inspired by international terrorism'
London attack - latest updates - BBC News

Let me guess...a new euphemism for Radical Islamic Terror by those who are afraid to say it because it messes with the fantasies they have in their heads?
 
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You do realise the attacker was killed trying to enter the houses of Parliament. It wasn't just on the bridge.

If this is all that the evil terrorist armies of ISIS can muster then honestly I consider them pretty neutered.

Yet we treat it as a global incident, ban electronics on airlines, violate citizens privacy (which the UK is awful for) and vote in hysterical xenophobic leaders.

You know who's killed more people in the UK than muslim terrorists this year? Husbands and boyfriends in acts of domestic violence.
 
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