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DEBT COLLECTOR Donald Trump claims Germany owes the US and Nato ‘vast sums of money’

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Gimmesometruth said:
what point?
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It's been made clear. I'll not repeat myself.
 
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Fishking said:
It's been made clear. I'll not repeat myself.
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No, it is not clear, you have made multiple "points" in our discussion up to this post, and if you can't specify which 2 or more points I supposedly "conflated", then you had no reason to make such a claim.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
No, it is not clear, you have made multiple "points" in our discussion up to this post, and if you can't specify which 2 or more points I supposedly "conflated", then you had no reason to make such a claim.
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If made it clear that I support forcing NATO nations to either make for their own defense or pay us for the defense we provide. So far, it seems Trump is somewhat similar on that but I have no clue what he will do or say from one day to the next. So when you say:

Gimmesometruth said:
I know thats whut yer sayin, do give us a heads up when the Orangatan shakes down them Mexicants, Frogs, Clogs and Sprouts...mkay?
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I don't know when or if that will ever happen or what he will say from one day to the next. So since you already "know thats whut yer sain" why did you ask me again?
 
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Fishking said:
You're conflating my point ( I support forcing NATO nations to either make for their own defense or pay us for the defense we provide) with what I think Trump is going to say or do from one day to the next. Those are entirely different things.
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Uh, I did not "conflate" those 2 things, because they ARE both the same, Trump is ALSO wanting that SAME thing. Don't you know what conflate means?
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Uh, I did not "conflate" those 2 things, because they ARE both the same, Trump is ALSO wanting that SAME thing. Don't you know what conflate means?
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If you're going to ignore your own words then I'm not going to waste my time with someone so dishonest in their exchange.
 
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Fishking said:
If you're going to ignore your own words then I'm not going to waste my time with someone so dishonest in their exchange.
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Um, your last point was that I conflated something YOU said with what Trump said, I just showed I did not, I showed you and Trump want the same thing. That is why it is strange to see you arguing Trump would change his wanting to collect from other states for NATO.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Um, your last point was that I conflated something YOU said with what Trump said, I just showed I did not, I showed you and Trump want the same thing. That is why it is strange to see you arguing Trump would change his wanting to collect from other states for NATO.
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You keep leaving this part out:

"I know thats whut yer sayin, do give us a heads up when the Orangatan shakes down them Mexicants, Frogs, Clogs and Sprouts...mkay?"

^---those are your words, not mine. I've clearly stated that my position and Trump's generally align at this time but I can't speak for whatever he will or will not do in the future.

This isn't difficult.
 
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Moot said:
Trump is acting like a thug operating a protection racket.

So after Trump alienates all of the US allies and trading partners....then who will the US have to trade with?
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Eh, I don't think you understand what a protection racket is....
 
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Abbazorkzog said:
That's the difference between internationalism and globalism. Globalism and nationalism are essentially two sides of the same coin, the national identity is either projected outward or inward. Some of Adolf Hitler's (sorry to Godwin) greatest inspirations were American eugenicists, and before it became apparent that he was an ardent sociopath, some of his largest backers were from Wall Street and London. (See: Anglo-German Naval Agreement of 1935).
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US Large Corps and Finance did business with Hitler through most of WWII. Henry Ford, Sr., sent him birthday monetary gifts through 1944.
 
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From the Christopher Steele dossier:

The deal on Ukraine
What does the dossier say?

It says that in return for hacking the Democrats, Trump agreed not to mention Russia’s covert invasion of Ukraine. The issued would be “sidelined”. Instead, Trump would focus on US/Nato defence commitments in the Baltics and eastern Europe. The aim: “to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for PUTIN who needed to cauterise the subject”.​

It's so interesting that day by day the dossier keeps being proven to be right.
 
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poweRob said:
Interesting... From the Christopher Steele dossier:

The deal on Ukraine
What does the dossier say?

It says that in return for hacking the Democrats, Trump agreed not to mention Russia’s covert invasion of Ukraine. The issued would be “sidelined”. Instead, Trump would focus on US/Nato defence commitments in the Baltics and eastern Europe. The aim: “to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for PUTIN who needed to cauterise the subject”.​

It's so interesting that day by day the dossier keeps being proven to be right.
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Good to see Rep. Schiff read it into the record. It was if there were two different investigations.

GOPs have as much trouble saying Russia as trump does and Nunes is compromised.

It was great to see Gowdy play trumpistan deflection on leaks after the leaks from his committee .
 
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poweRob said:
From the Christopher Steele dossier:

The deal on Ukraine
What does the dossier say?

It says that in return for hacking the Democrats, Trump agreed not to mention Russia’s covert invasion of Ukraine. The issued would be “sidelined”. Instead, Trump would focus on US/Nato defence commitments in the Baltics and eastern Europe. The aim: “to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for PUTIN who needed to cauterise the subject”.​

It's so interesting that day by day the dossier keeps being proven to be right.
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And it keeps getting more interesting...


Every day Trump looks like he is even more Putin's bitch than the day before. What a toadie.
 
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poweRob said:
And it keeps getting more interesting...


Every day Trump looks like he is even more Putin's bitch than the day before. What a toadie.
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And with this breaking story it just got even more interesting...

 
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Fishking said:
but I can't speak for whatever he will or will not do in the future.
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You said:

he'd probably have changed his mind ​

ergo, you can speak for whatever he will do, you already did so.
 
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jmotivator said:
Eh, I don't think you understand what a protection racket is....
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Meh, I don't think you do, either.
 
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Moot said:
Meh, I don't think you do, either.
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I do, but I am glad you have admitted you don't. ;)
 
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