• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

SS Agent got a laptop stolen from her car with plans for Trump tower in it.

BillRM

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 26, 2016
Messages
1,631
Reaction score
386
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
As the story stated that the computer was heavily encrypted so Trump should not be at any risk damn it.

Such a computer in the power down condition should be proof against any attacks up a state level attack.

When I first read the headline the first thing that came to my mind was the question of whether the computer was encrypted or not and as it was this is no big deal except for the agent career.

It nice that the government is finally encrypting their laptops decades after I had done so as a matter of course.

Secret Service laptop containing Trump Tower evacuation and floor plans stolen - CNNPolitics.com

"Secret Service-issued laptops contain multiple layers of security, including full disk encryption, and are not permitted to contain classified information. An investigation is ongoing and the Secret Service is withholding additional comment until the facts are gathered," Milhoan said. "The Secret Service requests anyone with information regarding this crime to please contact the New York Police Department and the US Secret Service New York Field Office."
 
A noteworthy part of the story is in the following Headline.

Laptop holding Trump Tower floor plans, Hillary Clinton email investigation info stolen from Secret Service agent

A laptop computer containing floor plans for Trump Tower, information about the Hillary Clinton email investigation and other national security information was stolen from a Secret Service agent's vehicle in Brooklyn, police sources told the Daily News.

[...]


Laptop holding Trump Tower floor plans, Hillary Clinton email investigation info stolen from Secret Service agent


Sounds odd. Like a purposeful release/leak of info is forthcoming without actually releasing/leaking it.
 
Last edited:
As the story stated that the computer was heavily encrypted so Trump should not be at any risk damn it.

What exactly does THAT mean?
 
Such a computer in the power down condition should be proof against any attacks up a state level attack.
hahahaha

I concur that it is far better for it to be encrypted than not. However, once someone has physical access to the laptop? Screwed. It's just a matter of time.
 
As the story stated that the computer was heavily encrypted so Trump should not be at any risk damn it.

That comment about risk to Trump is crap.
You automatically lose any cred by being upset that Trump is not at risk.
 
A noteworthy part of the story is in the following Headline.

Laptop holding Trump Tower floor plans, Hillary Clinton email investigation info stolen from Secret Service agent

A laptop computer containing floor plans for Trump Tower, information about the Hillary Clinton email investigation and other national security information was stolen from a Secret Service agent's vehicle in Brooklyn, police sources told the Daily News.

[...]


Laptop holding Trump Tower floor plans, Hillary Clinton email investigation info stolen from Secret Service agent


Sounds odd. Like a purposeful release/leak of info is forthcoming without actually releasing/leaking it.


Ah, yeah...

The combination of Trump Tower evacuation plans AND Hillary's email issues seem anachronistic for a SS agent to have on their computer.
 
hahahaha

I concur that it is far better for it to be encrypted than not. However, once someone has physical access to the laptop? Screwed. It's just a matter of time.

With proper encryption that "matter of time" would require more years to accomplish than the hacker will be alive, assuming no huge leaps in quantum computing before then, since they say it was full disc encryption.

But I don't know what level of encryption the laptop used since it wasn't cleared for classified information. Also, if it was in sleep mode rather than powered off there could be work arounds. Also assuming they don't use encryption with a backdoor.

If she was careless enough to leave the laptop in the car she may have been careless enough to not follow proper shutdown procedures.
 
I see some folks are not getting it.
What the heck is a Secret Service Agent doing with "Hillary Clinton email investigation" files?
 
I see some folks are not getting it.
What the heck is a Secret Service Agent doing with "Hillary Clinton email investigation" files?

I was just wondering the same thing myself.
 
As the story stated that the computer was heavily encrypted so Trump should not be at any risk damn it.

Such a computer in the power down condition should be proof against any attacks up a state level attack.

When I first read the headline the first thing that came to my mind was the question of whether the computer was encrypted or not and as it was this is no big deal except for the agent career.

It nice that the government is finally encrypting their laptops decades after I had done so as a matter of course.

She was probably an Obama loyalist who gave it to a liberal terrorist.

We know that there are lots of Obama loyalist willing to betray this country...

Secret Service agent under fire after posting she wouldn't take bullet for Trump


This is what happens when you have members in our government who hate America.
 
I see some folks are not getting it.
What the heck is a Secret Service Agent doing with "Hillary Clinton email investigation" files?

She was a Hillary loyalist and she was probably working on destroying incriminating evidence.
 
I see some folks are not getting it.
What the heck is a Secret Service Agent doing with "Hillary Clinton email investigation" files?

I can think of some legitimate reasons. Perhaps the agent was questioned by the FBI as a witness and there were communications on the laptop regarding that. I'm just guessing, though.
 
hahahaha

I concur that it is far better for it to be encrypted than not. However, once someone has physical access to the laptop? Screwed. It's just a matter of time.

Yeah, several thousand years.

Most likely this is just a run of the mill thief who doesn't know what he has.
 
She was a Hillary loyalist and she was probably working on destroying incriminating evidence.

I can think of some legitimate reasons. Perhaps the agent was questioned by the FBI as a witness and there were communications on the laptop regarding that. I'm just guessing, though.
Going on what the report said.

Hillary Clinton email investigation info

It is not likely that this laptop was the only computer that contained that information.

Still, what is a Secret Service Agent doing with it? This is not their area of enforcement or investigation.
It is fishy.
 
hahahaha

I concur that it is far better for it to be encrypted than not. However, once someone has physical access to the laptop? Screwed. It's just a matter of time.

Time as in a few millions times the current life time of the universe.

The FBI once try the old brute force guessing attacks on a truecrypt protected drive for over a year before they gave up.

No the agent laptop is a paperweight until someone reformat the hard drive and placed a new OS on it.
 
With proper encryption that "matter of time" would require more years to accomplish than the hacker will be alive, assuming no huge leaps in quantum computing before then, since they say it was full disc encryption.

But I don't know what level of encryption the laptop used since it wasn't cleared for classified information. Also, if it was in sleep mode rather than powered off there could be work arounds. Also assuming they don't use encryption with a backdoor.

If she was careless enough to leave the laptop in the car she may have been careless enough to not follow proper shutdown procedures.

Come on open source full disk encrypting is more then enough protection and had been for years and then somehow even with my very low regard of the federal government the woman laptop should be at least protected to that level.

As far as her shutting it down in sleep mode she would need to be near brain dead to be that stupid.
 
She was probably an Obama loyalist who gave it to a liberal terrorist.

We know that there are lots of Obama loyalist willing to betray this country...

Secret Service agent under fire after posting she wouldn't take bullet for Trump


This is what happens when you have members in our government who hate America.

Well unless she gave the passhrase and any key file also no one is getting any information from that computer and if she did that she would had been better off just offloading the files in question and turning them over.
 
She was a Hillary loyalist and she was probably working on destroying incriminating evidence.

An how would turning over her hard drive to someone else destroy incriminating evidence unless you are claiming she have the only such copy with no back ups on her laptop.
 
ooooooooooooooooooooooh MY, the suspense .................. another (Trump) diversion .................... haha ................



OK Donny ............... go clean out your diaper ............
 
There is something very fishy about this story.

First off it is my understanding when you are dealing with sensitive material you don't bring your laptop home with you and you sure as heck don't leave in your car in your driveway along with files as reported.

Second if something like that happened, it would not be leaked to the press. And who was the first to report it? New York Daily News.
 
That comment about risk to Trump is crap.
You automatically lose any cred by being upset that Trump is not at risk.


Come on everyday for the last forty days or so had proven beyond question that Trump is totally unfit to be president and an ongoing threat not only to the US and it citizens but to the rest of the world also.

Every morning I turn on the news just to see what the clown had said and done since I had gone to bed.

The very last thing I hear was him and his spoke person getting the UK upset with a silly suggestion that Obama somehow got the UK intelligence agency to do the tapping of Trump tower.

No I do not wish the man well at all.
 
Come on everyday for the last forty days or so had proven beyond question that Trump is totally unfit to be president and an ongoing threat not only to the US and it citizens but to the rest of the world also.
And you just lost any remaining cred you think you had with the nonsense.
 
There is something very fishy about this story.

First off it is my understanding when you are dealing with sensitive material you don't bring your laptop home with you and you sure as heck don't leave in your car in your driveway along with files as reported.

Second if something like that happened, it would not be leaked to the press. And who was the first to report it? New York Daily News.

Well I never work for the government but I happen to have information on my computers that control over half a million dollars of investment on average and from time to time leave one of those computers in my car.

The only thing I am risking is the hardware cost of the computer in question thanks to full disk encryption at the AES level.
 
Everyone should try to skip the shiny things embedded within the story of a laptop theft from a Secret Service Agent Marie Argentieri. The theft appears to have nothing to do with Trump Tower or Trump Tower floor plans. The theft appears to have everything to do with Argentieri as a supportive investigator for Hillary Clinton’s private email server.

Evidence of the specific targeting is transparent within the eye witness stories that a car pulled up, a passenger exited the vehicle – went directly to Agent Argentieri’s vehicle, broke in, took the back pack and walked away quickly.

The thief knew exactly what they were looking for, this wasn’t a random heist of convenience.

read more at: https://theconservativetreehouse.co...gation-files-stolen-from-vehicle-agents-home/

I can think of only one scenario that makes sense: The SS agent set up the theft.
 
Well unless she gave the passhrase and any key file also no one is getting any information from that computer and if she did that she would had been better off just offloading the files in question and turning them over.

She gave someone the information to access the laptop and then pretended it got stolen. This is obviously what happened.
 
Back
Top Bottom