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Kids on winning robotics team told, 'Go back to Mexico'

HenryChinaski said:
Children are taught to hate.
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No, hate is intrinsic. All that's required is opportunity.

Watch little two-year-old Billy Bob when little Jimmy steals his toy truck.

Nobody taught him to be selfish and mean.
 
Vox said:
No, I've always maintained that similar cultures could assimilate into American life.

Dissonant cultures cannot. That's why we need to become intensely selective to avoid increasing the hate and violence now.
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You didn't make that clear in this thread so I was unaware of that caveat to your argument.
 
Vox said:
No, hate is intrinsic. All that's required is opportunity.

Watch little two-year-old Billy Bob when little Jimmy steals his toy truck.

Nobody taught him to be selfish and mean.
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Children parrot their parents and guardians. They are sponges that soak up everything around them. I grew up in one of those homes.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Children parrot their parents and guardians. They are sponges that soak up everything around them. I grew up in one of those homes.
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No, nurture can only dull the edges of nature and adult life sharpens those edges.

The pit bull will always have the genes and instincts of a killer........you can never train him to be a poodle.
 
Vox said:
No, nurture can only dull the edges of nature and adult life sharpens those edges.

The pit bull will always have the genes and instincts of a killer........you can never train him to be a poodle.
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My mother was an ignorant racist. As a child I thought it was normal, I didn't know any better. I was taught to hate. I changed when I hit high School and started thinking for myself and was around other races and cultures.
 
HenryChinaski said:
My mother was an ignorant racist. As a child I thought it was normal, I didn't know any better. I was taught to hate. I changed when I hit high School and started thinking for myself and was around other races and cultures.
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Look at the Millennials. Brainwashed by their failed schools into multiculturalism.

Supposedly SO tender and kind, they are.

LOL! Scratch the surface and find a nasty bastard if you cross them.

(I do admit there are exceptions.)
 
Somerville said:
I so love how we are constantly informed that only 'snowflakes' believe there is racism in America



These kids aren't snowflakes

I find it rather sad that a 10-year-old kid is "used to this kind of behavior."
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Trump has made it okay to be openly mean, racist, and harmful to other people.
 
Somerville said:
I so love how we are constantly informed that only 'snowflakes' believe there is racism in America



These kids aren't snowflakes

I find it rather sad that a 10-year-old kid is "used to this kind of behavior."
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That is just wrong!
 
JumpinJack said:
Trump has made it okay to be openly mean, racist, and harmful to other people.
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Oh, brother. :roll: You know that Trump's son-in-law is a Jew, right? And that his daughter, Ivanka, converted to Judaism? And that their children are being raised in the Jewish faith? So do you think it's okay to Trump that people target Jewish cemeteries or community centers for desecration? Get real.

 
Thanks to Trump, racism/bigotry seems to be becoming the new norm. That's what happens when you have a presidential candidate who literally race baited his way to the presidency. A lot of racists now feel "emboldened" due to Trump's rhetoric. They feel the president has their back...and they may be right.
 
Ahlevah said:
Oh, brother. :roll: You know that Trump's son-in-law is a Jew, right? And that his daughter, Ivanka, converted to Judaism? And that their children are being raised in the Jewish faith? So do you think it's okay to Trump that people target Jewish cemeteries or community centers for desecration? Get real.

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None of that refuted what he said.
 
Somerville said:
I so love how we are constantly informed that only 'snowflakes' believe there is racism in America



These kids aren't snowflakes

I find it rather sad that a 10-year-old kid is "used to this kind of behavior."
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Yep that's my home state of Indiana.The state that put Trump over the top in the primaries and the state that treated Ryan White the boy dying of aids like a piece of garbage. The ignorance here is unbelievable at times.

On election day at my precinct they were lined up a block long to vote to Trump. After all Trump will make America great again and Clinton was a crook.
 
Ahlevah said:
Oh, brother. :roll: You know that Trump's son-in-law is a Jew, right? And that his daughter, Ivanka, converted to Judaism? And that their children are being raised in the Jewish faith? So do you think it's okay to Trump that people target Jewish cemeteries or community centers for desecration? Get real.

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The kids are brown. Not Jewish.

You need to do some research on Trump and authoritarianism and fascism and the governance of hate and fear.

Look at his budget. It increases the budget for things having to do with hate and fear, while decreasing all programs having to do with caring for the citizens of the country, compassion, taking care of the environment for future generations.

Listen to his words at his campaign rallies. "Punch 'em in the face." "Carry 'em out on stretchers." "Muslims" "Illegals" "Immigrants" "Deportation force" "a wall." Banning religions from entering the country.

The KKK officially endorsed him, and Trump did not denounce them.

Yes, there have been open acts of terrorism against people that looked like they might be "one of them Muslims" or hispanic, including murder while shouting "get out of my country."

He appointed a white nationalist as a key advisor; Bannon is his right hand man and the one controlling much of what the White House does. Bannon is a supremacist.

The leader sets the tone. The supremacists saw in Trump a hero, someone who is on national tv saying it's okay to hate brown people, those "others."

And so you have kids being taunted repeatedly if they look non-white.

Reminder: The statement of the W.H. written by Stephen Miller or Bannon did not mention the Jews...on Holocaust Day. Unbelievable. And Trump didn't make a statement about the terrorism against Jews that rose up after his election. He had to be asked a few times to do it.

Your eyes seem to be shut. You can't see the darkness he is spreading.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Yep that's my home state of Indiana.The state that put Trump over the top in the primaries and the state that treated Ryan White the boy dying of aids like a piece of garbage. The ignorance here is unbelievable at times.

On election day at my precinct they were lined up a block long to vote to Trump. After all Trump will make America great again and Clinton was a crook.
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I know that feeling. The area I live in is very pro GOP/Trump. A lot of people that I like are thoroughly convinced Trump is for the "little guy", and that Clinton was the most corrupt/crooked person ever. This is why I rarely discuss politics in "real life".
 
Somerville said:
I so love how we are constantly informed that only 'snowflakes' believe there is racism in America



These kids aren't snowflakes

I find it rather sad that a 10-year-old kid is "used to this kind of behavior."
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Kids have better political insights than many, many, many, adults.
 
Grim17 said:
Why are you trying to make this political? These weren't adults, they were just kids... Kids identify differences in others and use it to lash out. Having been one myself, I can say with absolute certainty that that's just what they do.

Does it make what they said right, or acceptable... Hell no... But it doesn't mean that they are racist.

Who a kid truly is and what they believe, doesn't surface until sometime during their high school years when they become more mature. Until then, labeling grade school children "racist" over comments like those, seems presumptuous and a bit over the top.


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I don't know if I can entirely agree with that.

And I am very aware of what you are talking about, not only was I young and hot tempered once, but I officiated junior hockey for many years, where they really get mad.

However, its the content that scares me. In any given hokey game I would hear trash talk, which is what we call it, but it seldom went to race, more about ones roots [Ontario vs Quebec] and some name calling. But "go back to Mexico" goes a bit beyond that and is made worse by the fact they are yelling at fellow Americans.

and that's what I don't understand, is how you attack each other over the silliest ****. Its obvious, but I have to say I don't want to live in a country where people arm themselves against each other.
 
Puigb said:
None of that refuted what he said.
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Well, she gave her opinion, I gave mine. She wrote, "Trump has made it okay to be openly mean, racist, and harmful to other people." I feel that it's nonsense to blame Trump for what other people do, especially when he likely finds the behavior abhorrent. Like the black former Trump executive in the video, I'm kind of getting fed up with people blaming Trump for the state of race relations in America. A lot of this was brewing under the surface all though Obama's eight years of race baiting. Somewhere between his "Change you can believe in" campaign rhetoric and governing from the Oval Office, Obama forgot that he was supposed to represent ALL Americans.
 
Ahlevah said:
Well, she gave her opinion, I gave mine. She wrote, "Trump has made it okay to be openly mean, racist, and harmful to other people." I feel that it's nonsense to blame Trump for what other people do, especially when he likely finds the behavior abhorrent. Like the black former Trump executive in the video, I'm kind of getting fed up with people blaming Trump for the state of race relations in America. A lot of this was brewing under the surface all though Obama's eight years of race baiting. Somewhere between his "Change you can believe in" campaign rhetoric and governing from the Oval Office, Obama forgot that he was supposed to represent ALL Americans.
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complain about Trump being blamed, and then proceed to blame Obama. Partisan hackery at it's finest.
 
JumpinJack said:
The kids are brown. Not Jewish.
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So when you wrote "Trump has made it okay to be openly mean, racist, and harmful to other people," you were only referring to brown people?

JumpinJack said:
You need to do some research on Trump and authoritarianism and fascism and the governance of hate and fear.
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No, if you're going to make a claim and advance it as anything more than your opinion, it's up to you to support it, not me.

JumpinJack said:
Look at his budget.
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So Trump's budget made it "okay to be openly mean, racist, and harmful" to brown people? Connect the dots for me, please. I'm confused. :confused:
 
Puigb said:
complain about Trump being blamed, and then proceed to blame Obama. Partisan hackery at it's finest.
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I just thought it was an appropriate point at which to set the record straight. Obama was supposed to be a president that represented all Americans, regardless of race or ethnicity. He gets a massive :failpail: in that regard.
 
Ahlevah said:
I just thought it was an appropriate point at which to set the record straight. Obama was supposed to be a president that represented all Americans, regardless of race or ethnicity. He gets a massive :failpail: in that regard.
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Obama did just fine. It was the far right that had huge brain farts because Americans elected and re-elected a black man for president. The result was them voting for a massive race baiter like Donald Trump who used the whole birther conspiracy theory to start his political career.
 
Vox said:
And exactly how much good has "fighting it" done thus far?
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Quite a bit! Certainly beats the alternative (genocide, war, Jim Crow, Apartheid).

Vox said:
Basic human instinct cannot be fought or changed.
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Xenophobia is no more basic than rape or murder. The vast majority of people go through life without doing either of those things. It's not terribly hard to get over xenophobia... if you actually try.
 
Puigb said:
Obama did just fine. It was the far right that had huge brain farts because Americans elected and re-elected a black man for president. The result was them voting for a massive race baiter like Donald Trump who used the whole birther conspiracy theory to start his political career.
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We've always had extremes. How many members of the Nation of Islam, do you suppose, voted for McCain or Romney? Of the overall black vote, Romney got 6% and McCain 4%. Trump got 8%, so, by comparison, he was a veritable black messiah. (Apparently, the black candidate, Obama, appealed to black people more than the white woman did, even though she was running against a supposed bigot. Go figure. :shrug:) Trump was elected not because of the likes of David Duke or Richard Spencer, but thanks to the Democrats forgetting about the working-class whites who helped elect their candidate to two terms. It's my sincere hope they never figure that out.
 
Ahlevah said:
We've always had extremes. How many members of the Nation of Islam, do you suppose, voted for McCain or Romney? Of the overall black vote, Romney got 6% and McCain 4%. Trump got 8%, so, by comparison, he was a veritable black messiah. (Apparently, the black candidate, Obama, appealed to black people more than the white woman did, even though she was running against a supposed bigot. Go figure. :shrug:) Trump was elected not because of the likes of David Duke or Richard Spencer, but thanks to the Democrats forgetting about the working-class whites who helped elect their candidate to two terms. It's my sincere hope they never figure that out.
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Hillary was a horrible candidate who did worse than Obama among ALL races, including blacks. That's the reason why she lost.

Trump received 57% of the white vote, Romney back in 2012 received 59%. More white voters voted third party in 2016 compared to 2012. If all these white voters abandoned the Democrats to vote for Trump, why did he do slightly worse among whites than Romney? Your argument is not backed up by the facts.

And the fact of the matter is, Duke, Spencer, and other white nationalists types came out and publicly supported Trump. They never did that for McCain or Romney. Something about Trump's rhetoric appealed to them. Trump is a race baiter, period. He was arguably the least qualified and the least conservative candidate that ran on the GOP side. Trump had no political experience, or history of ever supporting conservative positions. The guy less than ten years ago was praising Hillary Clinton for petes sakes. Face it, Trump got as far as he did because he was a birther, and because of race baiting. Without Trump playing on people's fears, he wouldn't even have been a blip on the radar, and you know it.
 
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