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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...et-russian-ambassador-says-kremlin-spokesman/

Hillary Clinton’s team members met with the Russian ambassador during the election as well as Donald Trump’s, the Kremlin spokesman has alleged, as he set out to dismiss the “hysteria” surrounding Mr Trump’s links to Russia.

The house intelligence committee will hold its first session on Russia on March 20, with the heads of the FBI, national security agency and CIA expected to appear, plus previous intelligence chiefs.

But Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary for Vladimir Putin, said on Sunday that America was “self-humiliating” in insisting that Russia hacked its election.

He said that members of Mrs Clinton’s team had also met with Mr Kislyak, although he did not give specifics.

“Well, if you look at some people connected with Hillary Clinton during her campaign, you would probably see that he had lots of meetings of that kind,” he said. “There are lots of specialists in politology, people working in think tanks advising Hillary or advising people working for Hillary.”



Mrs Clinton's team is yet to comment on the allegations.

This absurd Russian obsession is going to damage the dwindling Democrat party even further than it's already paltry existence for a long time.

Outside of the wackos, people simply don't care about this. They know it's overblown, fabricated BS. They've always known that meetings with ambassadors all over the world take place all the time. In fact, they expect it.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he warns against 'hysteria'

This absurd Russian obsession is going to damage the dwindling Democrat party even further than it's already paltry existence for a long time.

Outside of the wackos, people simply don't care about this. They know it's overblown, fabricated BS. They've always known that meetings with ambassadors all over the world take place all the time. In fact, they expect it.
Aww, that's cute. I love how hard some people are trying to spin.

Perhaps I missed it...can you show me where Russia interfered in the election in support of Hillary Clinton or in opposition to Donald Trump? Because that's the issue here. It's not that some people met with Russia, it's that they met with Russia and Russia took an active role in influencing our election.

Please present your evidence where Russia worked to influence the election in Clinton's favor or against Trump and I'll take your argument more seriously. Otherwise, the only "overblown, fabricated BS" is this story.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he warns against 'hysteria'





This absurd Russian obsession is going to damage the dwindling Democrat party even further than it's already paltry existence for a long time.

Outside of the wackos, people simply don't care about this. They know it's overblown, fabricated BS. They've always known that meetings with ambassadors all over the world take place all the time. In fact, they expect it.

Hot damn y'all, ah swar! Those pesky Dems were colluding with Russians to derail the USA election process. Now just which Dems need to be prosecuted for this? An investigation is a necessity as we have a Democratic Party attempting to subvert democracy by collusion by foreign agents. (sarcasm)
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Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Aww, that's cute. I love how hard some people are trying to spin.

Perhaps I missed it...can you show me where Russia interfered in the election in support of Hillary Clinton or in opposition to Donald Trump? Because that's the issue here. It's not that some people met with Russia, it's that they met with Russia and Russia took an active role in influencing our election.

Please present your evidence where Russia worked to influence the election in Clinton's favor or against Trump and I'll take your argument more seriously. Otherwise, the only "overblown, fabricated BS" is this story.

So Russia forced the DNC to rig the election against Bernie? They forced Donna Brazile to give the debate questions to Hillary? The Russians have rigged the elections so that Dems only have 16 measly governorships, 27% of state legislatures, and have lost the House, Senate, presidency, and now the Supreme Court?

Your parents should have allowed you to lose a baseball game once or twice. This is beyond pathetic.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Aww, that's cute. I love how hard some people are trying to spin.

Perhaps I missed it...can you show me where Russia interfered in the election in support of Hillary Clinton or in opposition to Donald Trump? Because that's the issue here. It's not that some people met with Russia, it's that they met with Russia and Russia took an active role in influencing our election.

Please present your evidence where Russia worked to influence the election in Clinton's favor or against Trump
and I'll take your argument more seriously. Otherwise, the only "overblown, fabricated BS" is this story.

How about you present evidence that Russia interfered in the election on behalf of Trump or at all?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

So Russia forced the DNC to rig the election against Bernie? They forced Donna Brazile to give the debate questions to Hillary? The Russians have rigged the elections so that Dems only have 16 measly governorships, 27% of state legislatures, and have lost the House, Senate, presidency, and now the Supreme Court?

Your parents should have allowed you to lose a baseball game once or twice. This is beyond pathetic.

Hell, the DNC admitted to rigging their primaries

"We heard loudly and clearly yesterday from Bernie supporters that the process was rigged and it was. And you've got to be honest about it. That's why we need a chair who is transparent," Perez said. (In Race for DNC Chair, Tom Perez Pledges to Woo Back Red, Rural America - NBC News)
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he warns against 'hysteria'





This absurd Russian obsession is going to damage the dwindling Democrat party even further than it's already paltry existence for a long time.

Outside of the wackos, people simply don't care about this. They know it's overblown, fabricated BS. They've always known that meetings with ambassadors all over the world take place all the time. In fact, they expect it.

Now all we need is evidence that the Russians tried to help Clinton and hurt Trump as a result of it.

btw- why did Trump and his people lie about the meetings in the first place?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

How about you present evidence that Russia interfered in the election on behalf of Trump or at all?

You use your eyes. You use your brain. You use your common sense. You use all your powers of observation recalling the events of the campaign including the public invitation from Trump himself to the Russians to get involved in the campaign by targeting Clinton.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

You use your eyes. You use your brain. You use your common sense. You use all your powers of observation recalling the events of the campaign including the public invitation from Trump himself to the Russians to get involved in the campaign by targeting Clinton.

That isn't evidence. Every time I ask for evidence of Russia interfering in the election, either I can't get any or the evidence presented is extremely flimsy.

EDIT:

On topic: From NYT

"There have been courtesy calls, policy discussions and business contacts, though nothing has emerged publicly indicating anything more sinister….Former diplomats and Russia specialists say it would have been absurd and contrary to American interests for the Trump team to avoid meetings with Russians, either during or since the campaign." (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/us/politics/trump-russia-links-washington.html?_r=0)

This whole idea that because the Trump campaign was talking to the Russians=Russian hackers/Russia influencing the election is ridiculous.
 
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Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

That isn't evidence.

It is evidence enough to cause the investigations.

Why did Trump and his people LIE about Russian contacts in the first place?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

It is evidence enough to cause the investigations.

Why did Trump and his people LIE about Russian contacts in the first place?

You've yet to present any evidence that Russia interfered in the election or aided Trump, which is the (sub)topic we are talking about.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

You've yet to present any evidence that Russia interfered in the election or aided Trump, which is the (sub)topic we are talking about.

You prove that the ostrich is not the only creature who hides his head in the sand pretending not to see what is clearly around him. 17 different defense and intelligence agencies see it differently than you. I will take their assessment over yours any day of the week.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

You prove that the ostrich is not the only creature who hides his head in the sand pretending not to see what is clearly around him. 17 different defense and intelligence agencies see it differently than you. I will take their assessment over yours any day of the week.

Completely false.

1. It isn't 17 different intel agencies. The only people who signed off on the reports were the CIA, DHS, FBI, and (I think) the NSA.

2. The reports, such as Grizzly Steppe, don't have any actual evidence in them and are mainly focused on protecting systems.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

It is evidence enough to cause the investigations.

Why did Trump and his people LIE about Russian contacts in the first place?

The same reason that Bill Clinton lied about his sexual affairs in the first place - it may not please the public to be honest.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Aww, that's cute. I love how hard some people are trying to spin.

Perhaps I missed it...can you show me where Russia interfered in the election in support of Hillary Clinton or in opposition to Donald Trump? Because that's the issue here. It's not that some people met with Russia, it's that they met with Russia and Russia took an active role in influencing our election.

Please present your evidence where Russia worked to influence the election in Clinton's favor or against Trump and I'll take your argument more seriously. Otherwise, the only "overblown, fabricated BS" is this story.

The Russians TRIED to hack Republicans as well... they just failed. And actually I'm pretty sure that YOU don't actually have evidence of Russian hacking specifically to aid Trump either, you are working on third hand and mostly anonymous sources.

The named sources you think might support your claim have verified that the Russians tried to hack the RNC but failed, and have also stated there is no evidence of Trump collusion with the Russians.

And the evidence that you DO have that there was collusion is the same for both parties because foreign ambassadors tend to do their job and meet with the top candidates from both parties to make sure they have a connection regardless of who wins.
 
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You've yet to present any evidence that Russia interfered in the election or aided Trump, which is the (sub)topic we are talking about.

Using the same level of evidence as Haymarket I will now claim I have evidence that this assault on President Trump is a "Plan B" collusion between Hillary, The MSM and Putin to disrupt the Trump presidency in the unthinkable event that Trump actually won! ;)
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

So Russia forced the DNC to rig the election against Bernie? They forced Donna Brazile to give the debate questions to Hillary? The Russians have rigged the elections so that Dems only have 16 measly governorships, 27% of state legislatures, and have lost the House, Senate, presidency, and now the Supreme Court?
No, Russia likely hacked the DNC and colluded with Wikileaks to release the contents of the DNC hack on a piecemeal basis up until the election.

Surely you are aware of these facts, correct? Your post suggests you're really bad at word games, you should probably leave the spinning to someone else.
How about you present evidence that Russia interfered in the election on behalf of Trump or at all?
...if you're not aware of all the evidence linking Russia to interference, perhaps you should do a little Googling. The evidence is common knowledge, regardless of what conclusion you draw from the evidence.
And actually I'm pretty sure that YOU don't actually have evidence of Russian hacking specifically to aid Trump either, you are working on third hand and mostly anonymous sources.
We know for a fact the DNC was hacked. We know for a fact the hacked contents were released in piecemeal fashion at the most damaging possible time politically for Clinton. And we have numerous pieces of evidence Russia did the hacking.

Pay attention to what I said earlier. I was very careful to note Russia's interference to help Trump or hurt Clinton. I threw both possibilities in and did so intentionally.

I know it's fashionable right now for Republican supporters to ignore facts they don't like, but paying attention to facts is quite important for honest discussion.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

No, Russia likely hacked the DNC and colluded with Wikileaks to release the contents of the DNC hack on a piecemeal basis up until the election.

Surely you are aware of these facts, correct? You're really bad at word games, you should probably leave the spinning to someone else.
...if you're not aware of all the evidence linking Russia to interference, perhaps you should do a little Googling. The evidence is common knowledge, regardless of what conclusion you draw from the evidence.
We know for a fact the DNC was hacked. We know for a fact the hacked contents were released in piecemeal fashion at the most damaging possible time politically for Clinton. And we have numerous pieces of evidence Russia did the hacking.

Pay attention to what I said earlier. I was very careful to note Russia's interference to help Trump or hurt Clinton. I threw both possibilities in and did so intentionally.

I know it's fashionable right now for Republican supporters to ignore facts they don't like, but paying attention to facts is quite important for honest discussion.

"No, Russia likely hacked the DNC and colluded with Wikileaks to release the contents of the DNC hack on a piecemeal basis up until the election." Evidence?

I have looked at the official government reports and there have yet to see an actual evidence that Russia hacked the DNC or aided Trump.

Actually no, the DNC wasn't hacked. Even Obama admits that the DNC emails were leaked. See minute 8:31 (https://youtu.be/CiHtH0IJids?t=8m31s)

I am not a Republican supporter, but hey, I know its easy to throw accusations around.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Aww, that's cute. I love how hard some people are trying to spin.

Perhaps I missed it...can you show me where Russia interfered in the election in support of Hillary Clinton or in opposition to Donald Trump? Because that's the issue here. It's not that some people met with Russia, it's that they met with Russia and Russia took an active role in influencing our election.

Please present your evidence where Russia worked to influence the election in Clinton's favor or against Trump and I'll take your argument more seriously. Otherwise, the only "overblown, fabricated BS" is this story.
Can you show evidence that russia hacked the election?

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Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

We know for a fact the DNC was hacked. We know for a fact the hacked contents were released in piecemeal fashion at the most damaging possible time politically for Clinton. And we have numerous pieces of evidence Russia did the hacking.

We also know for a fact that the same source tried to hack the RNC servers but failed, denying them the emails that they were seeking. The unequal outcome of the hacking attempts is the only verified reason for the unevenness of exposure of internal party communications.

Pay attention to what I said earlier. I was very careful to note Russia's interference to help Trump or hurt Clinton. I threw both possibilities in and did so intentionally.

The Russians don't want any US president to succeed, and they tried to hack RNC as well... but failed.

But, if your assumption of their goal being to hurt Hillary is accurate... would that be an example of her awesome diplomatic prowess? Or were the Russians so scared by Hillary's awesome performance in Libya and Syria -- that made Russia the top influence in ME politics -- that they just couldn't deal with all that winning?

I know it's fashionable right now for Republican supporters to ignore facts they don't like, but paying attention to facts is quite important for honest discussion.

LOL. I'm not ignoring any facts, I am pointing out the lack of facts on your side and your side's willingness to soldier on despite that.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Completely false.

1. It isn't 17 different intel agencies. The only people who signed off on the reports were the CIA, DHS, FBI, and (I think) the NSA.

2. The reports, such as Grizzly Steppe, don't have any actual evidence in them and are mainly focused on protecting systems.

Here is the evidence you are wrong.

Hillary Clinton blames high-up Russians for WikiLeaks releases | PolitiFact

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."
The statement added that the recent hacks "are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.
"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.
The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim. The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

The same reason that Bill Clinton lied about his sexual affairs in the first place - it may not please the public to be honest.

You are equating two very different things that have nothing to do with one another.

Again, if Trump and his people had nothing to hide about so called normal contacts, why would they repeatedly lie about them?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

You use your eyes. You use your brain. You use your common sense. You use all your powers of observation recalling the events of the campaign including the public invitation from Trump himself to the Russians to get involved in the campaign by targeting Clinton.

Weakest of weak sauce. Wishful thinking based on butthurt. Nothing more.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Using the same level of evidence as Haymarket I will now claim I have evidence that this assault on President Trump is a "Plan B" collusion between Hillary, The MSM and Putin to disrupt the Trump presidency in the unthinkable event that Trump actually won! ;)

Haymarket has the conclusions of 17 different intelligence and defense agencies behind his claims.

Who the hell do you have?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Weakest of weak sauce. Wishful thinking based on butthurt. Nothing more.

Using a intentionally insulting term evoking pain of homosexual rape disqualifies you from any serious reply.
 
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