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Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he war

Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Using a intentionally insulting term evoking pain of homosexual rape disqualifies you from any serious reply.

That's what you think butthurt means? LOL
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Haymarket has the conclusions of 17 different intelligence and defense agencies behind his claims.

Who the hell do you have?

No, Haymarket doesn't. Haymarket only thinks he has something but has never bothered to vet what he has been told.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

You are equating two very different things that have nothing to do with one another.

Again, if Trump and his people had nothing to hide about so called normal contacts, why would they repeatedly lie about them?

I talk with you but would likely never admit it even to close friends. ;)
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

How about you present evidence that Russia interfered in the election on behalf of Trump or at all?

You use your eyes. You use your brain. You use your common sense. You use all your powers of observation recalling the events of the campaign including the public invitation from Trump himself to the Russians to get involved in the campaign by targeting Clinton.

So...no?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

No, Russia likely hacked the DNC and colluded with Wikileaks to release the contents of the DNC hack on a piecemeal basis up until the election.

Surely you are aware of these facts, correct? Your post suggests you're really bad at word games, you should probably leave the spinning to someone else.
...if you're not aware of all the evidence linking Russia to interference, perhaps you should do a little Googling. The evidence is common knowledge, regardless of what conclusion you draw from the evidence.
We know for a fact the DNC was hacked. We know for a fact the hacked contents were released in piecemeal fashion at the most damaging possible time politically for Clinton. And we have numerous pieces of evidence Russia did the hacking.

Pay attention to what I said earlier. I was very careful to note Russia's interference to help Trump or hurt Clinton. I threw both possibilities in and did so intentionally.

I know it's fashionable right now for Republican supporters to ignore facts they don't like, but paying attention to facts is quite important for honest discussion.

In your first sentence you say likely, which means no facts, then go on to say it is a fact.

I have not seen any evidence that Russia supplied the documents or emails to Wikileaks. It has been speculation up until now.

Where are the facts you speak of?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

This whole idea that because the Trump campaign was talking to the Russians=Russian hackers/Russia influencing the election is ridiculous.

Not to mention, there's a lot of different accusations and steps that gets thrown around, and far to often people like to try and act like one directly leads into the other.

There's the idea of whether the Trump campaign had any contact with Russia.

Then there's the idea of whether or not Russian actors attempted to influence the election.

Then there's the question that IF there were russian attempts, whether or not said Russian actors are state sponsored ones.

Additional to that IF, there's a question whether or not those attempts were done specifically in an effort to aid Trump, specifically in an effort to harm Clinton, or were done for some other reason such as simply creating dysfunction and chaos within the American system.

Then there's the question that IF Russia did interfere in order to aid Trump, why? Due to ties to Trump, due to a belief that Trump would be more beneficial to their interests, or because they figured Hillary would win (like pretty much EVERYONE did) and they wanted to make sure her opposition was robust.

And finally, was the Trump campaign involved with such a thing? And if so, to what degree; directing it, requesting it, simply capitalizing off it?

WAYYY to often, it seems like some people are feeling like if they get a "yes" to one of those questions, then it means a "yes" to all the other questions in the direction they want. So if someone in the Trump campaign was talking to Russia, that somehow is "evidence" (Haymarket's post is a great example of this thinking) that somehow it must imply that all the things that occurred was done by state sponsored Russian actors in conjunction with Trump to put him into power because he's directly tied with them....or something.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

That's what you think butthurt means? LOL

How many times has it been explained to you?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

No, Haymarket doesn't. Haymarket only thinks he has something but has never bothered to vet what he has been told.

That makes no sense as a reply to my statement you pretended to be answering.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

I talk with you but would likely never admit it even to close friends. ;)

I do not understand that post.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he


Why would you reply to my statement with your own false conclusion? I have stated repeatedly that I have the conclusion of 17 different defense and intelligence agencies on my side. But you ignore that.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

That makes no sense as a reply to my statement you pretended to be answering.

I am responding to your false initial statement. Until you stop playing dumb and throwing out bogus information I will continue to focus on that.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Why do you use the word evidence when your post uses words like "is confident that", "are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts.", "believes" and "We believe".

None of those are words of evidence, but rather opinion.

I provided the evidence - that is why I used the term.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

I am responding to your false initial statement. Until you stop playing dumb and throwing out bogus information I will continue to focus on that.

The so called BOGUS INFORMATION is the expert conclusions of 17 different US intelligence and defense agencies.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

I do not understand that post.

Trump (and friends) chose not to admit to certain conversations. I do the same concerning conversations with you.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

The so called BOGUS INFORMATION is the expert conclusions of 17 different US intelligence and defense agencies.

No, you are wrong. You continue to push this bogus talking point but it is a fraud.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Trump (and friends) chose not to admit to certain conversations. I do the same concerning conversations with you.

Our conversations are seen here quite publicly.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

I provided the evidence - that is why I used the term.

Then you don't know what the word means.

Opinion is not evidence.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

No, you are wrong. You continue to push this bogus talking point but it is a fraud.

How is it wrong as I already provided the verifiable evidence it is correct?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Then you don't know what the word means.

Opinion is not evidence.

The evidence is the existence of the report.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Our conversations are seen here quite publicly.

Only to those that know us as haymarket and ttwtt78640. ;)
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Why would you reply to my statement with your own false conclusion? I have stated repeatedly that I have the conclusion of 17 different defense and intelligence agencies on my side. But you ignore that.

But he didn't ask for "conclusions", he asked for "evidence"
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

But he didn't ask for "conclusions", he asked for "evidence"

The professional assessment of the experts who have studied the situation is evidence.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

Only to those that know us as haymarket and ttwtt78640. ;)

So the steamy weekend in St.Croix does not count?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he

So the steamy weekend in St.Croix does not count?

Nope, as far as I am concerned, it simply never happened. ;)
 
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