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AG Sessions asks remaining 46 US attorneys to resign [W:176]

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tres borrachos said:
For historical context, so I know if this is a high or low number, how many Bush-appointed US attorneys did Obama ask to resign when he took office?
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I'm unsure of what the exact number for Bush. I know Clinton got rid of all 93. I believe Bush did as well, or very close to it. Same goes for Obama, who was rid of at least 2/3rds of the Bush holdovers.
 
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Zyphlin said:
I'm unsure of what the exact number for Bush. I know Clinton got rid of all 93. I believe Bush did as well, or very close to it. Same goes for Obama.
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Thanks Zyphlin.

Then this appears to be much ado about nothing.
 
tres borrachos said:
Thanks Zyphlin.

Then this appears to be much ado about nothing.
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Pretty much. It's unusual to do a mass firing without almost no notice and without replacements ready to take over, but that's just normal Trump incompetence causing at least short term chaos. We're getting used to that by now.
 
JasperL said:
Pretty much. It's unusual to do a mass firing without almost no notice and without replacements ready to take over, but that's just normal Trump incompetence causing at least short term chaos. We're getting used to that by now.
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Actually, even that's not entirely unusual, nor is it some sign of incompetence or a lack of understanding in government. People may bitch about a lot of things about Bill Clinton, but being a poor politician or student of government would not be one of them. Yet he fired 93 US attorney's very early on, and no...he did not immediately have 93 replacements in place ready to take over.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Yay. I learned something new today.
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Those jobs, are still part of the spoils system.
People are also making a big stink about Preet getting fired, it's probably showboating/grandstanding for his run for public office.
He's feinting, being a part of the #resistance, to gain votes imo.
 
Zyphlin said:
Actually, even that's not entirely unusual, nor is it some sign of incompetence or a lack of understanding in government. People may bitch about a lot of things about Bill Clinton, but being a poor politician or student of government would not be one of them. Yet he fired 93 US attorney's very early on, and no...he did not immediately have 93 replacements in place ready to take over.
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It's not a big deal but I'll quote from an LA Times article:

Replacing U.S. attorneys stretches back to Reagan - latimes

In 1993, he was the U.S. attorney in Pittsburgh and the liaison between the outgoing George H.W. Bush administration and the incoming Clinton administration. "We had been asking them for months: 'When do you want our resignations?' " he said.

The answer came in a meeting with Webster Hubbell, the associate attorney general, in mid-March. "He said, 'I have good news and bad news. The good news is the attorney general wants you to stay until your successor is confirmed. The bad news is she wants your resignations by the end of the week,' " Corbett said.

He said the demand for resignations by the week's end was surprising.

"We knew this was coming, but it broke with tradition to do it this way," he said. "It didn't make for a smooth transition. By the end of that week, they had backed off a bit. Over the course of the next few months, they made the changes. It was how the message was delivered more than what actually occurred."
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And of course I'm old enough to remember the firings of the USAs back then was a big scandal - the WSJ among others accused Clinton of doing it that way to get rid of a few pesky republicans looking into Clinton stuff or other democratic politicians.
 
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Harry Guerrilla said:
Those jobs, are still part of the spoils system.
People are also making a big stink about Preet getting fired, it's probably showboating/grandstanding for his run for public office.
He's feinting, being a part of the #resistance, to gain votes imo.
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I don't think it's a big deal, but I understand he met with Trump (or his people) and was directly asked to stay on, and just a few weeks later was fired with the rest. That's a bit odd...
 
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rocket88 said:
I heard the words cone out of his mouth on the radio. He said he never met with anyone from the Russian government, which was not true.
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They ALL meet with foreign dignataries. What good would any of them be if they did not?

Photo contradicts Pelosi's statement about not meeting Kislyak
Kremlin spokesman: Russian ambassador met with advisers to Clinton campaign too | TheHill

Thank god no one was caught on camera saying how they could REALLY work with russians after they were elected to their second term. Right?



Those so quick to accuse again stand with egg on their faces.

There are real actual issues to handle.

They are up there on our dime wasting time and resources when people are really hurting.
 
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JasperL said:
I don't think it's a big deal, but I understand he met with Trump (or his people) and was directly asked to stay on, and just a few weeks later was fired with the rest. That's a bit odd...
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I think he was asked if he was prepared to stay on.

I never say anywhere he was actually asked to stay on.

Preet is a big Ham and hes going to do well in the private sector.
 
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akyron said:
They ALL meet with foreign dignataries. What good would any of them be if they did not?

Photo contradicts Pelosi's statement about not meeting Kislyak
Kremlin spokesman: Russian ambassador met with advisers to Clinton campaign too | TheHill

Thank god no one was caught on camera saying how they could REALLY work with russians after they were elected to their second term. Right?



Those so quick to accuse again stand with egg on their faces.

There are real actual issues to handle.

They are up there on our dime wasting time and resources when people are really hurting.
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Obama is not in office anymore. So his ability to do anything for the Russians is severely compromised. Trump, however....
 
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rocket88 said:
Obama is not in office anymore. So his ability to do anything for the Russians is severely compromised. Trump, however....
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That's true, but it should stop you from commenting on what Obama said to Medvedev.
 
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akyron said:
They ALL meet with foreign dignataries. What good would any of them be if they did not?

Photo contradicts Pelosi's statement about not meeting Kislyak
Kremlin spokesman: Russian ambassador met with advisers to Clinton campaign too | TheHill

Thank god no one was caught on camera saying how they could REALLY work with russians after they were elected to their second term. Right?



Those so quick to accuse again stand with egg on their faces.

There are real actual issues to handle.

They are up there on our dime wasting time and resources when people are really hurting.
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And it's now known that the Hillary campaign met with the Russians.
 
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JasperL said:
I don't think it's a big deal, but I understand he met with Trump (or his people) and was directly asked to stay on, and just a few weeks later was fired with the rest. That's a bit odd...
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I'd say you should watch what happens next with him.
I'd guess that there's a 80% chance he's going to run for public office.

He started a separate twitter account about a week before all this happened.
He knew what he was doing.
 
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Harry Guerrilla said:
I'd say you should watch what happens next with him.
I'd guess that there's a 80% chance he's going to run for public office.

He started a separate twitter account about a week before all this happened.
He knew what he was doing.
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I agree with that, I'm just pointing out it's not normal to offer a guy a job then a few weeks later fire him. At least it's not normal for that position.
 
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JasperL said:
I agree with that, I'm just pointing out it's not normal to offer a guy a job then a few weeks later fire him. At least it's not normal for that position.
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I agree, maybe he (Preet) changed his tune or maybe, it was already understood by both and Team Trump threw him a bone for his election(they both knew this the whole time).
I'm not sure if we'll ever know the truth of all this.
 
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rocket88 said:
Obama is not in office anymore. So his ability to do anything for the Russians is severely compromised. Trump, however....
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Yeah yeah nice one. We all know the tired 8 year mantra of .....

It's Bushes fault !!!

Deflection fail.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
And it's now known that the Hillary campaign met with the Russians.
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I never really thought they had not had discussions. It's so common for potential leaders to meet other reps or leaders.

It only turns bad when they start conspiring against US interests.
 
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JasperL said:
I agree with that, I'm just pointing out it's not normal to offer a guy a job then a few weeks later fire him. At least it's not normal for that position.
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Pretty sure that allowing this guy to stay was throwing Schumer a bone thinking they could work together. After all Trump is not really a true Republican. Now that Schumer is playing hardball Trump is tossing his guy out.
 
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akyron said:
Yeah yeah nice one. We all know the tired 8 year mantra of .....

It's Bushes fault !!!

Deflection fail.
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You're the one who tried to deflect. I'm simply pointing out that Obama doesn't have the power to do much for them anymore.
 
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Fletch said:
That's true, but it should stop you from commenting on what Obama said to Medvedev.
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When you look at the sanctions that Obama put on them, it's hard to paint that as "helping" them. We'll see what Trump's record is when there is one.
 
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