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Homeland Chief: Illegal Border Crossings Down 40%

Mason66 said:
Who says immigrants are not a net positive to US society?
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I didn't say that, did I? If my question were empirically answered, you would find a net positive, even given "illegal" immigration. Then, as I said, regarding national needs, what do you think those changes in immigration laws would look like? Regardless of what they look like, I think there would be better enforcement of the law and support thereof.
 
bluesmoke said:
The number one thing is that immigrants do us no harm compared to those of us who are here already. The number two thing in that over the next, at least, 40 years our population will not grow without immigration. There is no such thing as a growing economy without a growing population.
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That's the argument that you hear from rich people who want cheap labor.

The rest of us suffer from low wages, crime and deterioration of America.

We can let a few of the best in, but the rabble just take us down.
 
bluesmoke said:
Number one is that the claims of immigrants being of any more damage to our society than those of us who are already here is unproven. Number two is that over the next 40 years, without the rate of immigration we've had over the last 40 years our population will not grow necessary to fuel necessary economic growth for us to remain a world economic power. I suppose we could always be the strongest among the weak. There is an undoubted fact that economic growth requires population growth, without which you have economic stagnation. We can't afford stifling immigration.
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Ridiculous.

See post above.

The problem is.......the world ran out of good immigrants.
 
Vox said:
Vox said: That's the argument that you hear from rich people who want cheap labor.

The rest of us suffer from low wages, crime and deterioration of America.

We can let a few of the best in, but the rabble just take us down.
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Vox said: “That's the argument that you hear from rich people want cheap labor.”

So, what? What’s your point? Whatever the situation is, rich people will have their way. Lay back and take it.

Vox said: “The rest of us suffer from low wages, crime and deterioration of America.”

We suffer from low wages relative to our production. Crime is about as low as it’s ever been, so you’re dead wrong. I don’t know what you mean by a “deterioration of America.” Morally? The breaking down of our infrastructure? What?

Vox said: “We can let a few of the best in, but the rabble just take us down.”

You are luring me into a depth of stupid argument.
 
bluesmoke said:
Vox said: “That's the argument that you hear from rich people want cheap labor.”

So, what? What’s your point? Whatever the situation is, rich people will have their way. Lay back and take it.

Vox said: “The rest of us suffer from low wages, crime and deterioration of America.”

We suffer from low wages relative to our production. Crime is about as low as it’s ever been, so you’re dead wrong. I don’t know what you mean by a “deterioration of America.” Morally? The breaking down of our infrastructure? What?

Vox said: “We can let a few of the best in, but the rabble just take us down.”
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You said: "So, what? What’s your point? Whatever the situation is, rich people will have their way. Lay back and take it."

Wow.......just wow.

You showed us the root of the problem.

Thanks.
 
BrewerBob said:
I can believe that. I can also believe legal immigration has dropped. Our appeal isn't exactly at an all time high at the moment.
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Yet somone posted a Pew survey that said up to one third of the people in mexico want to move to America
 
JMaximus said:
The Left has abandoned liberalism to embrace globalist multiculturalism enforced locally through violence and fascism.

There is little wonder as to why several prominent liberals have begun referring to the Left as "pathetic" and "regressive", among other less-than-flattering labels.
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Interesting.
 
Vox said:
You said: "So, what? What’s your point? Whatever the situation is, rich people will have their way. Lay back and take it."

Wow.......just wow.

You showed us the root of the problem.

Thanks.
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Exactly. History shows not only what I say, but that the public have been active participants in voting against their own interests, voting for themselves to get screwed, and paying for it.
 
bluesmoke said:
Exactly. History shows not only what I say, but that the public have been active participants in voting against their own interests, voting for themselves to get screwed, and paying for it.
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No, the root of the problem is that people like you say, "Lay back and take it."
 
Vox said:
No, the root of the problem is that people like you say, "Lay back and take it."
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That you can't recognize satire, even after being explained, is your problem shared upon others, without want by them. It is as easy for me to agree with the point of your madness as it is to disagree with the madness that carries your point. Maybe, down the road, I will hopefully learn better.
 
Signifying, again.......that you have nothing to say (except that you're a slow learner).
 
Vox said:
Thank you, Mr. President!!!

All we had to do is more FORCEFULLY inform them they're not welcome.

Now......maybe a little MORE pressure to reduce it even more?



Homeland chief: Illegal border crossings dip 40%
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Most of the left does not seem to have a clue how good of a poker player Trump is. Most of the crap that comes out of his mouth has a lot to do with attaining his objectives through bluffing. I guess though that if everyone realized most of what he says is a bluff, he wouldn't be such a good bluffer anymore.
 
Re: Illegal Border Crossings Down 40%

JMaximus said:
The Left today seems to know little other than to shout racism and xenophobia everytime they encounter a thought they don't like.

It's pointless intellectual laziness that's so far only been good at turning support away from their positions.
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Wow. A very liberal whose light is actually on.
 
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Vox said:
Signifying, again.......that you have nothing to say (except that you're a slow learner).
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No. Signifying I give others a break of non-judgement to openly prove themselves. What you were upset at was my satirical position. When I explained that, you still pretended as though my satire was real. I don't believe it's because you are a slow learner. I think you understand what I said above, but that you are intellectually dishonest, or just a mind f*ck. We are probably not far apart, at all, on our position in this matter.
 
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