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Pence used Personal email for State business — and was Hacked

mbig said:
Playing Hillary while Governor. 'Unprotected text.'
Not as serious as Hillary's offense IMO, but still very careless.
He also failed to turnover those emails as required by State Law.
The new Governor didn't release some of the recovered ones for security reasons.

Pence used personal email for state business - and was hacked
Tony Cook, The Indianapolis Star Published 7:23 p.m. ET March 2, 2017 | Updated 19 minutes ago (via USAToday)
Vice President Mike Pence reportedly used a private email account to conduct public business, including homeland security matters,
while he was governor of Indiana. Records of the emails were obtained by IndyStar through a public records request.
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Lol...nice try. Governors typically dont deal with classified intel .

Pence used personal email for state business ? and was hacked
"Similar to previous governors, during his time as Governor of Indiana, Mike Pence maintained a state email account and a personal email account. As Governor, Mr. Pence fully complied with Indiana law regarding email use and retention "
 
ModerateGOP said:
Lock him up? Crickets from the Trumpkins...
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"Similar to previous governors, during his time as Governor of Indiana, Mike Pence maintained a state email account and a personal email account. As Governor, Mr. Pence fully complied with Indiana law regarding email use and retention. Government emails involving his state and personal accounts are being archived by the state consistent with Indiana law, and are being managed according to Indiana’s Access to Public Records Act.”

Pence used personal email for state business ? and was hacked

Lock him up ?? For what exactly ?? What laws did he break ??
 
Fenton said:
"Similar to previous governors, during his time as Governor of Indiana, Mike Pence maintained a state email account and a personal email account. As Governor, Mr. Pence fully complied with Indiana law regarding email use and retention. Government emails involving his state and personal accounts are being archived by the state consistent with Indiana law, and are being managed according to Indiana’s Access to Public Records Act.”

Pence used personal email for state business ?*and was hacked

Lock him up ?? For what exactly ?? What laws did he break ??
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In the eyes of the FBI, Clinton didn't break the law either, but it didn't stop you all from making baseless conspiracy theories. Some are still shouting it whenever they see Trump in public. Maybe they are paid to do that though.
 
ModerateGOP said:
In the eyes of the FBI, Clinton didn't break the law either, but it didn't stop you all from making baseless conspiracy theories. Some are still shouting it whenever they see Trump in public. Maybe they are paid to do that though.
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Uh...you sure about that ??

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

“Seven email chains concerned matters that were classified at the TOP SECRET SPECIAL ACCESS program at the time they were sent and received,” “There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position or the position of who she was corresponding about those matters should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that information. In addition to this information, we also found information that was classified as SECRET by the US intelligence community."

“We do assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal email server while outside of the United States…including sending work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries.
“We assess that it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s person email account,”


" To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
They had her dead to rights on both the legality of it and the intent.
Whether or not you or I like it, it's not illegal in Indiana.

How would a state respond to terrorist attacks around the globe, that sounds "off."
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It doesn't matter, they're equal. You can spend all the time using self-serving, arbitrary distinctions in a sad attempt to prop "your guy" up, but they're equal.
 
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Roadvirus said:
Using a personal account (or in HRC's case, a server) was against the law in the State Department. It's not against the law in Indiana.
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Your arbitrary, self-serving distinctions are dismissed. Pence's hypocrisy, as is yours, is obvious.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
They're really not equal though because the former deals with state secrets and has to have security clearance.
That's a big part of why one is legal and one is not.

Important distinction to make.
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But Clinton was wearing a white pantsuit when she used a personal server, so what she did was acceptable. See, I can make stupid, self-serving distinctions too.
 
Cardinal said:
But Clinton was wearing a white pantsuit when she used a personal server, so what she did was acceptable. See, I can make stupid, self-serving distinctions too.
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When Indiana starts conducting military and clandestine intelligence operations worldwide, for the security of the state.
You may have a point.
 
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Cardinal said:
Well well well...



Pence used personal email for state business ?*and was hacked

And what else did Pence have to say on the matter of personal email servers?



Mike Pence talks FBI investigation, Hillary Clinton emails - CBS News

Yes, Vice President Pence, please tell us more about these "double standards."
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I assume you're aware that there's a difference between a private email account and a private email, server.

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Moon said:
I assume you're aware that there's a difference between a private email account and a private email, server.

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Certainly not any kind of meaningful difference.
 
So if this is supposedly the same as Hillary. Then anyone who was ok with what Hillary did has to be ok with this. If republicans want to be a little hypocritical and say Pence is a little different than Hillaray and we are ok with it. That means most folks are ok with this so Lets move onto the next faux outrage story
 
ModerateGOP said:
In the eyes of the FBI, Clinton didn't break the law either, but it didn't stop you all from making baseless conspiracy theories. Some are still shouting it whenever they see Trump in public. Maybe they are paid to do that though.
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Actually, the FBI said that Mrs. Clinton most likely broke the law. It's just that they concluded that no DA would prosecute.
 
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Cardinal said:
Certainly not any kind of meaningful difference.
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Well, a personal email account is just that-- some account set up on somebody else's operation.
A personal server is your own operation.

It's not as if the State Department didn't have its own operation that Mrs Clinton could use. She chose to set up her own.
Pence used somebody else's.
It is indeed a meaningful distinction.
 
Phys251 said:
WOW.

Pathetic justifications for this arriving in 3...2...1...
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You lost your chance to be outrages when hillary was allowed to get away with far more serious violations

Pound sand
 
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Athanasius68 said:
Well, a personal email account is just that-- some account set up on somebody else's operation.
A personal server is your own operation.

It's not as if the State Department didn't have its own operation that Mrs Clinton could use. She chose to set up her own.
Pence used somebody else's.
It is indeed a meaningful distinction.
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As with the others, your desperate attempt to claw at any meaningful difference in order to maintain some slim notion of moral superiority for your side is dismissed.
 
Fenton said:
Lock him up ?? For what exactly ?? What laws did he break ??
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I'm sure the state has record keeping laws for government officials. While I'm not saying he did violate record keeping laws by conducting government business through a personal e-mail account, it would be something which would need to be investigated.
Athanasius68 said:
Well, a personal email account is just that-- some account set up on somebody else's operation.
A personal server is your own operation.

It's not as if the State Department didn't have its own operation that Mrs Clinton could use. She chose to set up her own.
Pence used somebody else's.
It is indeed a meaningful distinction.
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What you posted is not a meaningful distinction at all. There are no laws prohibiting personal e-mail accounts or personal e-mail servers. It is when government business is being done on them where the issues can come in.

You post was not a meaningful distinction.
 
Lock him up! Right guys?
 
Slyfox696 said:
What you posted is not a meaningful distinction at all. There are no laws prohibiting personal e-mail accounts or personal e-mail servers. It is when government business is being done on them where the issues can come in.

You post was not a meaningful distinction.
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Mrs. Clinton set up a private server to run the State Dept.
Mr. Pence evidently was sloppy with a personal preexisting email.
That is the distinction.
 
mbig said:
Playing Hillary while Governor. 'Unprotected text.'
Not as serious as Hillary's offense IMO, but still very careless.
He also failed to turnover those emails as required by State Law.
The new Governor didn't release some of the recovered ones for security reasons.

Pence used personal email for state business - and was hacked
Tony Cook, The Indianapolis Star Published 7:23 p.m. ET March 2, 2017 | Updated 19 minutes ago (via USAToday)
Vice President Mike Pence reportedly used a private email account to conduct public business, including homeland security matters,
while he was governor of Indiana. Records of the emails were obtained by IndyStar through a public records request.
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Your article says this:

Indiana law does not prohibit public officials from using personal email accounts, although the law is generally interpreted to mean that official business conducted on private email must be retained for public record purposes.
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Pence used personal email for state business ?*and was hacked



That's quite different from Hillary:


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton violated federal records rules through her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state, a State Department audit has concluded.
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Clinton Broke Federal Rules With Email Server, Audit Finds - NBC News
 
Athanasius68 said:
Mrs. Clinton set up a private server to run the State Dept.
Mr. Pence evidently was sloppy with a personal preexisting email.
That is the distinction.
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A) No
B) Irrelevant to the importance of the discussion

Try again.
 
Slyfox696 said:
A) No
B) Irrelevant to the importance of the discussion

Try again.
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1. Aye--but she did. We are not talking about who wrote the Declaration of Ibdependece two centuries ago, but what was learned last year.

2. If the issue is a comparison of Mrs.Clintons actions to that of Mr. Pence, then certainly an examination of that comparison is warranted (the correct comparison would be of a situation of Gov. Pence setting up his own server after being elected, and running official state business through that server, and not through whatever system Indiana uses. That did not happen with Gov Pence in Indiana.
whar

3. If it is simply questioning the actiona of Gov. Pence, fair enough.
 
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