Two other Trump advisers also spoke with Russian envoy during GOP convention

Amusing to watch the Dems self-immolate.

Far more amusing watching trumposter GOPs self-immolate and constantly deflect to anything other than the corrupt, criminal trump/Bannon admin.

It now makes sense that Miller was sessions top staff member.

As well as sessions dropping the federal suit against Texas over voting .

What I find quite interesting is that Trump gave an incredible optimistic speech on Tuesday before a joint session of Congress and here we are two days later with the left moving the goal posts, not talking about the optimism, not talking about job creation, not talking about economic activity, not talking about national security or anything else from the speech but rather going back into attack mode over again something insignificant, something that makes absolutely no sense, something that has nothing to with the law but anything to divert from the Trump Administration goals and promises.

Interesting article liberals but of course ignore it

Get real, Democrats, there is no good reason for Sessions to resign | Fox News

For 8 years Cons and Republican said Obama was weak and over-matched when dealing with Putin.

It is fascinating seeing the same Cons and Republicans who hated everything about Russia for decades, now simply because of politics, bend over for Putin.

NIMBY said:

Far more amusing watching trumposter GOPs self-immolate and constantly deflect to anything other than the corrupt, criminal trump/Bannon admin.

It now makes sense that Miller was sessions top staff member.

As well as sessions dropping the federal suit against Texas over voting .

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Actually it is you that continues to ignore what is important, divert from the real problems facing this country because once again you cannot get over the election loss and the fact that for a change we have a pro growth, pro jobs, pro national security President that is going to make your ideology obsolete

Objective Voice said:

First it was Paul Manafort (resigned campaign chair), then Sec. of State Rex Tillerson (thought nothing unsavory), then Gen. Michael Flynn (resigned), then Atty Gen. Jeff Sessions (recusal)

Now it's...

Carter Page (whose name appears several times in the private investigator dossier) and J.D. Gordon.
Exclusive: Two other Trump advisers also spoke with Russian envoy during GOP convention

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Now you are going to have to tell us when these two men became Trump advisors.

SenorXm/Sirius said:

For 8 years Cons and Republican said Obama was weak and over-matched when dealing with Putin.

It is fascinating seeing the same Cons and Republicans who hated everything about Russia for decades, now simply because of politics, bend over for Putin.

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Do you think it is bending over to have a relationship with Russia on the world stage with the real problem being China? You leftists don't get it at all. Do you believe Russia knows that the US can destroy them and that we don't have the same understanding? Why would Trump risk that?

Objective Voice said:

First it was Paul Manafort (resigned campaign chair), then Sec. of State Rex Tillerson (thought nothing unsavory), then Gen. Michael Flynn (resigned), then Atty Gen. Jeff Sessions (recusal)

Now it's...

Carter Page (whose name appears several times in the private investigator dossier) and J.D. Gordon.
Exclusive: Two other Trump advisers also spoke with Russian envoy during GOP convention

The hits just keep on coming.

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why is this a shock to anyone? we have heard about his campaign being in bed with the russians for months....question should be when will enough be enough for the republicans, and they go after trump?

ModerateGOP said:

Now Trump is standing by Sessions, just like he did with Flynn, in fact the entire news conference looks to be about the same except the headline can be changed from Flynn to Sessions. Now, it's not that I don't care that Sessions met with Russians, I mainly want to know WTF these meetings were about, and why no other countries are being treated as well as Russia was/is.

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For the GOP, it's like Neil Young's song "The NEEDLE and the Damage Done".

Just take out The NEEDLE and put in the latest crook, sessions .

d0gbreath said:

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Hey, you leave the Winchester boys out of this.

Captain Adverse said:

I personally believe this whole line of attack is just a continuation of the "by any means necessary" tactics of those who refuse to accept their candidate lost the election fair and square.

So if people are at a convention and happen to be talking...what could it possibly be about? The weather, how things are going, the price of rice in Moscow? Nope...it HAS to be about what Russia can do to insure Trump gets elected so Trump can be their agent in the USA. :roll:

I just don't buy it, and won't absent proof positive. Meanwhile I will always give a person the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty.

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Let's assume this Russia situation is just a whole lot of nothing. I ask myself when was the last time there was a presidential candidate and/or President who had family members, members of his campaign or members of his Administration be in such close contact with a foreign government or a single foreign government official like Trump's associates?

Or let's try this comparison if you will...

If Barack H. Obama "associations" with Saul Alinsky was enough to declare him a "radical" in the eyes of most Republicans, why does Pres. Trump and his affiliates get a pass when it comes to their Russian contacts and the quid pro quo that surrounds their associations?

Mason66 said:

Now you are going to have to tell us when these two men became Trump advisors.

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Before the election--are you watching Comrade Carter Page on MSNBC ?

Mason66 said:

Now you are going to have to tell us when these two men became Trump advisors.

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Carter Page was an advisor on Trump's campaign.
Donald Trump campaign advisor Carter Page now appears to be Russian government agent - Palmer Report

Donald Trump’s campaign advisor Carter Page is far from the only member of the Trump team with deep ties to Russia and its government. But Page has attracted special attention and scrutiny during the course of 2016 due to just how entangled he became. Page’s ties to Russia were reportedly being investigated by the FBI during the campaign, according to Politico. And then shortly after Trump won, Page traveled to Moscow according to the New York Times – and no one involved would say why.

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Not sure what J.D. Gordon's role was.

NIMBY said:

Kushner's name just dropped as having been with Flynn and the Russian envoy .

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I guess Kushner's Jewish connection isn't just to foster better relations with Bibi and Israel. Being "jewish" in a Trump Administration takes the slag term literally!

Conservative said:

Actually it is you that continues to ignore what is important, divert from the real problems facing this country because once again you cannot get over the election loss and the fact that for a change we have a pro growth, pro jobs, pro national security President that is going to make your ideology obsolete

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Once again, Conservative posts zero content on the thread or on the post he quoted .

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Once again, Conservative posts zero content on the thread or on the post he quoted .

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Once again you are in an anti Trump thread totally naked of actual facts and data but it doesn't matter to you, does it? It is all about destroying a sitting President all because you lost the election? Rather sad to see people like you ignoring what really is important all because of a temper tantrum

ModerateGOP said:

Oh yeah, blame technologically illiterate people for hacks when they happen to them :roll: Do you realize how idiotic that sounds? You shouldn't have clicked on that email, this is all your fault! In cybercrime no one blames the victim, actually that's pretty standard for most crimes, so it's interesting you think that way.

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So John Podesta is illiterate? Yeah...I guess that makes sense after all.

The 'hack' consisted of "hey...dude...give me your account name and password." So yeah...I guess you have a point. You would have to be an illiterate ****ing moron to fall for that.


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Visbek said:

Erm.... No, what's happening is that Russia has a large team of hackers working on a variety of cyber tactics. We know they have launched coordinated cyber attacks on Estonia, Georgia and Ukraine. We know they interfere with foreign elections. Hacking the campaigns didn't use up a lot of their resources.



...Yes, we may well be headed for another Cold War.

What's happening is that Russia has been changing its tactic over the years, in reaction to international events (like the Arab Spring, which scared the crap out of Putin), its own position as a weak nation, and more.

The New Yorker has a good writeup on the recent history of Putin and the deterioration of US-Russian relations.

Trump, Putin, and the New Cold War - The New Yorker

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"Cyberattack"

Do you know what 'phishing' means?


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Jack Hays said:

Amusing to watch the Dems self-immolate.

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It's been less than a full day and this Sessions thing has already passed its "Best If Used By Date".

SenorXm/Sirius said:

For 8 years Cons and Republican said Obama was weak and over-matched when dealing with Putin.

It is fascinating seeing the same Cons and Republicans who hated everything about Russia for decades, now simply because of politics, bend over for Putin.

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What is lame is watching leftists continue to a-blame the failure of the DNC and Hillary Clinton on 'the Russians!!!' And b-watching leftists **** themselves continuously as they try any and every ploy they can to insist Trump is not their president.

Putin is either your pathetic excuse for failure or Freddie Kruger occupying space in your brain.


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VanceMack said:

So John Podesta is illiterate? Yeah...I guess that makes sense after all.

The 'hack' consisted of "hey...dude...give me your account name and password." So yeah...I guess you have a point. You would have to be an illiterate ****ing moron to fall for that.


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If they didn't work, they wouldn't still be doing them. Loads of people fall for them, and while we may know better, many, many other people especially older people don't

VanceMack said:

OK...so what we see here then is leftists believe that B-Rock Obama and all the rest of the rat politicians were just that completely ****ing stupid-so much so that they ignored this most evil and vile threat to the world security and the US for 8 years.

Which explains why when the DNC emails were exposed back in JUNE, they did absolutely nothing. That, or maybe they didnt feel they could act on 'experts say' or 'un-nammed sources say'.

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Look, I get that for many of you it's easy to just dismiss all of these associations as just "private citizen business dealings/business as usual" or as setting the stage for "fostering improved relations between the world's two major super powers" and I would agree that there's no "there" there if there had only been one or two people from Team Trump who had off-the-record contact with Russian government officials. But this list just keeps growing above those names many of us knew were in that British investigator's dossier. I could even set this aside if the members from Team Trump were people who eventually became part of the Secretary of State's office. At least then, one could make that diplomatic connection on some rational level. But these Trump-affiliate associations are all over the place - Sec. of State, Atty Gen., National Security Advisor, White House Advisor (son-in-law), campaign chairman, campaign advisor, personal attorney (Michael Cohen) [Think on that one for a moment...why the hell would Trump's personal attorney need to have contact with anyone in Russia?].

Anyone with a critical eye should be looking at these Russian contacts very closely and realizing they are more than just coincidental contacts.

As to the Obama Administration/holdovers leaving "bread crumbs" as to Team Trump's Russian contacts, I think they did the right thing. Former Pres. Obama likely knew his internal investigation into Russia's hacking into the DNC servers and meddling in our election wouldn't be completed by the time he left office. So, his Administration (Intel Cmty) let "a paper trail/digital footprint" where those left behind could pick-up the pieces, point the newbies in the right direction and continue where the investigation left off.

What really gets me about the deniers is you call yourselves patriots and have such love for this country. I'd think you'd want to know the truth of the matter - Did the incoming POTUS know about these Russian contacts before he become POTUS? Did he order any of these Russian contacts either from his campaign or as POTUS? Was he aware of file sharing between members of his campaign and Russian government?

I want answers to these questions not because I dislike Pres. Trump, but because I want to know if the POTUS as a presidential candidate or anyone in his campaign aided a foreign government in meddling in our democracy.

ModerateGOP said:

I see since we yelled at TurtleDude for talking about Hillary every other post they have since moved on to Podesta. Why do Trumpkins attack political has-beens so much?

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trumposters just don't care what was done wrong before the election and what's been done wrong since the election as long as it kept Hillary out.

The problem for DEMs is that their Bernie voters haven't got their hatred of Hillary out of their systems either.

Trumposters play them for fools, though they vehemently deny it.

Millions of Bernie voters didn't vote at all, costing the DEMs the Senate and a bigger gain in the house and states.

Many of those non-voters are the biggest whiners on this board when it comes to what trump, Bannon, Ryan and McConnel have done .

ModerateGOP said:

If they didn't work, they wouldn't still be doing them. Loads of people fall for them, and while we may know better, many, many other people especially older people don't

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Hey...Ima do you a favor...k? If you get an email from a guy telling you he is a Nigerian prince and is willing to split his nations wealth with you and all you have to do is send him your bank account number...don't fall for that ****. K?

You're welcome.


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Objective Voice said:

First it was Paul Manafort (resigned campaign chair), then Sec. of State Rex Tillerson (thought nothing unsavory), then Gen. Michael Flynn (resigned), then Atty Gen. Jeff Sessions (recusal)

Now it's...

Carter Page (whose name appears several times in the private investigator dossier) and J.D. Gordon.
Exclusive: Two other Trump advisers also spoke with Russian envoy during GOP convention

The hits just keep on coming.

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It absolutely doesn't matter to Trump supporters. So many Nixon supporters stuck with him to the bitter end.

There could be a video of Trump, and every person that he's appointed, sitting round table, face to face with Putin, discussing election strategies several months prior to election day and it wouldn't matter to Trump supporters.

So.... :shrug:

The gig is over...it is what it is....good, bad, or indifferent.

TheGoverness said:

What matters here is what was discussed in those conversations.

The only thing I care about finding out is whether or not the Trump campaign and Russia colluded with one another.

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I agree. That's why I think people who dismiss these contacts out-of-hand aren't looking at the big picture. At this point, you have to investigate who met with whom, what were their associations, what was discussed and if it concerned the presidential election and what information, if any, was exchanged. And if the investigation turns up more information that takes matters into a different direction, i.e., "conduct unbecoming..." that should be addressed, too.