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Trump envisions bill allowing many illegals to stay in US

trump/Bannon are now using their leakers to plant stories designed to raise his poll numbers and appeal to Hispanics in this case.

This immigration plant will go as far with the GOP congress as trump's budget, described as DOA by the most powerful man in DC, McConnell .
 
Having that discussion, sending that message, etc before our southern border is as secure as it can be would be a mistake, in my opinion...
Looks like Trump is gonna pass a version of the Gang of Eight bill.
 
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Looks like Trump is gonna pass a version of the Gang of Eight bill.

Bannon/Miller will remind trump AFTER his speech what the gang of eight bill did to Rubio's presidential bid and Cantor's house seat.

trump/Bannon can't afford to lose any of their base but know they need to stop the bleeding with his polls.

Any news on who is writing trump's speech ?
 
Looks like Trump is gonna pass a version of the Gang of Eight bill.

And the question then becomes how is that received by many who voted for him and were eager supporters in the campaign?
 
This charade is merely a ruse to get every illegal to submit applications showing their current address and employer. Then ICE fires up the detention buses and grabs them all.
 

I'm in the basement right now with the two cats and no electricity, heavy thunderstorms and the tornado siren going off. Many areas north and south are getting golf-ball sized hail, not us so far, and 60+ mile per hour winds.

I think post #9 in this thread is every bit as possible as any other. Bannon has now figured out how to play the leak game on the media, if he wasn't already. Let's see what trump proposes for any legislation.

Bernie was fully supportive of former KY Gov. Beshear giving the official response to trump, mostly focused on ACA. KY pols McConnell, Paul and Bevin spent the day trashing Beshear and KYnect .
 
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This charade is merely a ruse to get every illegal to submit applications showing their current address and employer. Then ICE fires up the detention buses and grabs them all.

Now that would be worthy of Machiavelli.
 
This charade is merely a ruse to get every illegal to submit applications showing their current address and employer. Then ICE fires up the detention buses and grabs them all.
Are you drinking the cherry or strawberry Kool-Aid ?
 
Trump may add immigration section to speech - CNNPolitics.com



Amnesty?!? Gosh. Who could have predicted this ?




You know. Repeatedly. For months.

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Oh, come on now, man. You have to fair to him!

Don't take the things he says as if they are constructed from words with meanings and grammatical function. That's so square! You have to look into his heart to see what he really means. Why can't you give his heart a fair chance?
 
And the question then becomes how is that received by many who voted for him and were eager supporters in the campaign?
They will find a way to excuse it. Cults Gotta Cult.

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FAKE NEWS. Everyone knows Trump has ALWAYS been in favor of giving undocumented immigrants legal status.

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Having that discussion, sending that message, etc before our southern border is as secure as it can be would be a mistake, in my opinion...

Really. Wouldn't the idea be to maximize the "self-deport" from fear factor??? Maybe this is actually fake news, as opposed to distort/spin.
 
This is perhaps just another Bannon psychological scheme to terrorize illegals. They're going to leak this to the media, and then when all the illegals are hopeful and watching Trump speak to hear of amnesty and more taxpayer handouts, Trump is gonna yell, "Sike!!!"
 
Speech over. Nothing about amnesty.
 
Trump may add immigration section to speech - CNNPolitics.com

Amnesty?!? Gosh. Who could have predicted this ?

You know. Repeatedly. For months.

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There is nothing in the history of Bannon or Miller or their puppet to indicate they'd support 'immigration reform' and it's totally at odds with what's going on on the ground right now. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, looks like cynical, let's put out a leak to make Trump look good to the non-base on the day of his big address, complete BS to me.
 
I'm in the basement right now with the two cats and no electricity, heavy thunderstorms and the tornado siren going off. Many areas north and south are getting golf-ball sized hail, not us so far, and 60+ mile per hour winds.

I think post #9 in this thread is every bit as possible as any other. Bannon has now figured out how to play the leak game on the media, if he wasn't already. Let's see what trump proposes for any legislation.

Bernie was fully supportive of former KY Gov. Beshear giving the official response to trump, mostly focused on ACA. KY pols McConnell, Paul and Bevin spent the day trashing Beshear and KYnect .

Holy crap dude, stay safe!
 
There is nothing in the history of Bannon or Miller or their puppet to indicate they'd support 'immigration reform' and it's totally at odds with what's going on on the ground right now. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, looks like cynical, let's put out a leak to make Trump look good to the non-base on the day of his big address, complete BS to me.
And what will you do when they DO grant amnesty - de jure or de facto - to illegals?

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And what will you do when they DO grant amnesty - de jure or de facto - to illegals?

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I suspect most conservatives will blame liberals if Trump grants amnesty, same like they did with Reagan.
 
And what will you do when they DO grant amnesty - de jure or de facto - to illegals?

I'll worry about that when it happens, which from what I can tell will be after I hit the lottery.

I don't mind being wrong, but we know what he's done so far, and what Trump said on the campaign trail for over a year, and any kind of broad amnesty is roughly a 180 from that.
 
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