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Rachel Dolezal, former NAACP leader who claimed to be black, is on food stamps

GottaGo said:
Just because you mentally/emotionally identify yourself as something other than what you were born as, does not mean you should claim what you identify as rather than what you were born as when applying to a company or organization that is specifically looking for a certain race.
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So a transgendered person needs to use the bathroom that matches thier plumbing?
 
Oh God ... you guys still carrying on about this? :lamo
 
nota bene said:
I'm left to conclude that you don't understand the phrase "grist for your mill."
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You are correct, at that moment yesterday, I had forgotten the meaning of that arcane expression. enjoy that Pyrrhic victory.

Lets get back to the point at hand....since you found that article that shows it is not a "silly" comparison.....if a person feels, identifies with a sex they were not born as and work to become what they feel they are, do you "eye roll" that too?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
You are correct, at that moment yesterday, I had forgotten the meaning of that arcane expression. enjoy that Pyrrhic victory.

Lets get back to the point at hand....since you found that article that shows it is not a "silly" comparison.....if a person feels, identifies with a sex they were not born as and work to become what they feel they are, do you "eye roll" that too?
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"Victory"? That's your mind set, not mine. But you've learned something, and so my helping you isn't a Pyrrhic victory at all. (I'm hoping you understand what a "Pyrrhic victory" is.)
 
JMaximus said:
Rachel Dolezal, former NAACP leader who claimed to be black, is on food stamps

:lamo
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I can't quite get to the point that I will celebrate somebody's misfortune and, while I think this woman is a few cards short of a full deck, I wish her no harm.

I have every sympathy for the person who is 'different' as I spent quite a bit of my life--especially as a kid-- feeling like I didn't really fit in with any group and know how lonely that can be. That, however, does not justify passing myself off as something I am not in order to receive benefit or acceptance.

I am, however, happy that we have a more common sense President who thinks that issues that materially affect EVERYBODY should be left to the local community to decide. I am not saying that anti discrimination laws should be ended for our normal differences such skin color. But for the sticky wicket issues such as the propriety of allowing a man in the restroom with the girls as is the case with the quite rare transgender, that is best left to the locals to figure out.

And on a broader scale, I can't see President Trump going along with making Rachel Dolezal the poster child for a new category of 'trans-racial.'
 
nota bene said:
"Victory"? That's your mind set, not mine. But you've learned something, and so my helping you isn't a Pyrrhic victory at all. (I'm hoping you understand what a "Pyrrhic victory" is.)
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Um, I suppose when I point a bit of bias of yours, and you engage in diversion about how a thing I said is "silly", you are not countering my argument, you are not trying to win an argument. The victory you were trying to gain was by means of diverting further with a pointing out of my misunderstanding of your "grist" comment. You still won't address the base argument, you keep diverting. The "grist" point is yours, but it ultimately means nothing since you won't address the primary point, ergo, Pyrrhic. Sidestepping, avoidance...is concession.

This is, after all...a DEBATE forum.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Um, I suppose when I point a bit of bias of yours, and you engage in diversion about how a thing I said is "silly", you are not countering my argument, you are not trying to win an argument. The victory you were trying to gain was by means of diverting further with a pointing out of my misunderstanding of your "grist" comment. You still won't address the base argument, you keep diverting. The "grist" point is yours, but it ultimately means nothing since you won't address the primary point, ergo, Pyrrhic. Sidestepping, avoidance...is concession.

This is, after all...a DEBATE forum.
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And I've told you once and will now repeat that I am not going to answer your question which hopes to draw a parallel between my views on "racial dysphoria" and gender dysphoria. I see what you're trying to do and am not going to play. I've already said this too.
 
nota bene said:
And I've told you once and will now repeat that I am not going to answer your question which hopes to draw a parallel between my views on "racial dysphoria" and gender dysphoria. I see what you're trying to do and am not going to play. I've already said this too.
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I know you are avoiding this bit of your bias, and if you don't want to defend your eye roll, then stop responding, quoting me, telling me you are not going to discuss it while you divert with other BS.

nota bene said:
Dolezal claims that race, like gender, is "fluid" and also that it's a "social construct" rather than "biological." She wants a "more complex label" because being "trans-black" just "feels more accurate than saying that I am white." Rachel Dolezal, white woman who identifies as black, now jobless, may soon be homeless | Fox News

:roll:
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"I'll bring up her comparing race and gender, roll my eyes about it....and if someone challenges my disbelief of the validity of the comparison....well...I'm not gonna debate it"
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
I know you are avoiding this bit of your bias, and if you don't want to defend your eye roll, then stop responding, quoting me, telling me you are not going to discuss it while you divert with other BS.

"I'll bring up her comparing race and gender, roll my eyes about it....and if someone challenges my disbelief of the validity of the comparison....well...I'm not gonna debate it"
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I can respond only with :roll:
 
Cigar said:
I find it completely hilarious that people get their panties in bunch over what someone calls themselves. The can her a liar because shoes not to be White ... so what, who the hell cares? What is the so important to you? What are people calling her a liar but not a person who lied and or suckered Americans into thinking Obama was not born in Hawaii. Did those Investigators ever return from Hawaii? Why isn't he called a Liar? I'll tell you why; becaue people whited to believe that Lie!
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Isnt it a little bit funny that you would take the position you cant choose to not be gay, but you are okay with her choosing to not be white?
 
OK...OK...this just got even MORE amusing.

The whitest girl you will ever meet...

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Just applied more fake tan and a bigger weave...

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And changed her name. She is now 'legit' black...and her pre-slave name is Nkechi Amare Diallo.
 
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