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FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws[W:360]

Re: FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws

Cardinal said:
How does this benefit you, exactly?
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Why does it have to benefit me? I can't be for something unless I am directly compensated as a result? The problem with your position is that you cannot possibly see why someone would be against it. That's how effective the pro-NN lobbyists were. They brainwashed you.
 
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ModerateGOP said:
So ISPs need to pay what Netflix wants to pay them, as well as adhere to all their demands while Netflix just gets to sit around and suck on the tab? The lobbying efforts of Netflix is the single greatest propaganda campaign since the pro-smoking ads.

It still boils down to billion dollar companies fighting with other billion dollar companies
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Yes, this is an appropriate representation of liberal stances on the subject :roll:
 
Re: FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws

ModerateGOP said:
I have not heard any ISP say they are going to implement fast lanes, in fact even cell phone plans which were never subjected to these rules in the first place are going back to unlimited, albeit it's not really unlimited there is a 30 GB cap or something before they slow you down. It's all in the fine print.
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They were discussing and promoting it before the implementation of the rules. Regardless, it means they can never implement fast lanes, the regulations are there to prevent them from proposing or doing it. The FCC needs more power, and the ISPs need to be split up.
 
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Carjosse said:
They were discussing and promoting it before the implementation of the rules. Regardless, it means they can never implement fast lanes, the regulations are there to prevent them from proposing or doing it. The FCC needs more power, and the ISPs need to be split up.
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NN was never going to split up the ISPs. No way no how, if they wanted to do a merger they would do a merger, hence why they continued doing so. You should get that daydream out of your head, because it's never going to happen. As much as I hate to admit it, that's just the way this business is.

As to the fast lanes, your going to have to come up with some more hard evidence besides for Netflix's scary meme campaign.
 
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Carjosse said:
They were discussing and promoting it before the implementation of the rules. Regardless, it means they can never implement fast lanes, the regulations are there to prevent them from proposing or doing it. The FCC needs more power, and the ISPs need to be split up.
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Net Neutrality doesn't split anybody up....
 
Re: FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws

Deuce said:
Yes, this is an appropriate representation of liberal stances on the subject :roll:
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Honestly there isn't much substance to the pro-NN stance except for a bunch of stuff that they dreamed up might happen in various alternate realities that make no sense on the part of the ISP.
 
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ModerateGOP said:
Honestly there isn't much substance to the pro-NN stance except for a bunch of stuff that they dreamed up might happen in various alternate realities that make no sense on the part of the ISP.
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Net Neutrality is how the internet has worked for a long time, and yet for some reason you didn't find it to be disastrous.

Seems to me that you really bought the ISP propaganda hard. I guess your stance is "ISPs should be able to charge me again for bandwidth I already paid for, and they should also be able to arbitrarily limit competition on the internet." Because this game of deciding the other guy's stance is so fun, right?
 
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Carjosse said:
They were discussing and promoting it before the implementation of the rules. Regardless, it means they can never implement fast lanes, the regulations are there to prevent them from proposing or doing it. The FCC needs more power, and the ISPs need to be split up.
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Yes, because more government regulation always results in benefits for consumers, right? :roll:
 
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countryboy said:
Yes, because more government regulation always results in benefits for consumers, right? :roll:
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In this case yes, we must protect consumers from monopolies who will do anything to increase profits.
 
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Carjosse said:
The fact they exist and complaints can be levied is the sucess, I am certain there will be a big battle soon over something soon. It has forced the ISPs to ditch plans for fast lanes and allow smaller companies to continue to do business without fear.
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Lol! With libs it's never actual results that count, but intentions. Nevermind that liberalism always results in the exact opposite of it's stated intent. :lamo
 
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Carjosse said:
In this case yes, we must protect consumers from monopolies who will do anything to increase profits.
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And yet, you cannot point to any actual, tangible benefits.
 
Re: FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws

Carjosse said:
Because **** consumer rights, right? A lot of these "small ISPs" are actually just subsidiaries of the larger ones, they just want to extort more money from you.
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The government isn't the solution.
 
Re: FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws

ModerateGOP said:
They still merged with AT&T for nearly twice the price too.
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Yes, I know. We'll see how that plays out. The carriers merging with or buying up content providers, etc. Monopolies don't foster competition.
 
Re: FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws

ModerateGOP said:
NN was never going to split up the ISPs. No way no how, if they wanted to do a merger they would do a merger, hence why they continued doing so. You should get that daydream out of your head, because it's never going to happen. As much as I hate to admit it, that's just the way this business is.

As to the fast lanes, your going to have to come up with some more hard evidence besides for Netflix's scary meme campaign.
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Net neutrality does not, that is why I used the and, but they should be split up. If they had no plans to implement they would have no reason to oppose it. Net neutrality is necessary to protect consumers and ensure the free flow of information.
 
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apdst said:
The government isn't the solution.
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What solution do you propose, just letting them run rampant over consumers?
 
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countryboy said:
And yet, you cannot point to any actual, tangible benefits.
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It is protecting consumers from monopolistic corporations that want to extort more money form you and form other businesses. They are preventive. If they are having no effect then the ISPs have no reason to complain.
 
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Renae said:
Can you even begin to understand we who support this, believe it will help consumers? And we do so after weighing all the evidence and facts?
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You can believe it will, but it won't. With localized monopolies and now the removal of net neutrality, higher costs and lower speeds are in our future.
 
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countryboy said:
Yes, because more government regulation always results in benefits for consumers, right? :roll:
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Yes, because anarchy and 'self-regulation" always results in benefits for consumers, right? :roll:
 
Re: FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws

Carjosse said:
What solution do you propose, just letting them run rampant over consumers?
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If they aren't breaking any laws, there's nothing that can be done.
 
Re: FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws

Ikari said:
Yes, because anarchy and 'self-regulation" always results in benefits for consumers, right? :roll:
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How is Obamacare going? The government sure as hell fixed that. Right?
 
Re: FCC Reverses Net Neutrality Laws

TheGoverness said:
Yay for businesses screwing people over! Yay for less transparency!
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Not fair my friend. In a free market system, onerous laws that target small business is a boon to the big corporations who can better afford more rules and regs. It is the big corporations who push for those rules and regulations that make it much more difficult for the little guys to compete and in fact drive a lot of them out of business.

More competition is ALWAYS going to be better for all of us in the long run.
 
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