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White House blocks News Organizations From Press Briefing

I care about the topic of this thread. Trump "lies" isn't it.

It is a blatant irrational lie (BIL) for the trump/Bannon Wight House to say this was not a ban.

Just like they AT FIRST denied the Muslim ban was a ban, before relenting to the truth.

So yes, trump lies are certainly germane to this thread, thank you .
 
I care about the topic of this thread. Trump "lies" isn't it.

You were complaining about the press using made up sources, I asked you if it was OK when Trump does the same thing. It is completely relevant.
 
More Bannon stuff. More making **** up.

Did you ever imagine that in your defense of Republucan politicians, that you would have to defend a known racist POS like Bannon ? Politics sure do make for strange bed fellows.
 
Did you ever imagine that in your defense of Republucan politicians, that you would have to defend a known racist POS like Bannon ? Politics sure do make for strange bed fellows.

Bannon is no more a racist than obama was

I konw liberal democrats are terrified of losing the black vote - or even a small percentage of the black vote to trump

So they have to play the race card

But its bs and they know it
 
shrug...

You see what your biased viewpoint makes you see.

Me? I just want facts. No unnamed sources, no slant, no spin...and no whining and crying.



Then deal in facts and not what Trump invents while wandering the halls of the White House all night long.

How is it that the great Trump who has done everything cannot do what every president before him has done, and work within the established rules of the press?
You know every president since Washington have dealt with the way the press has done business longer than the US has been a country, how come Donny can't handle it? Even Ford handled it, Jimmy Carter, and your hated enemy, hated Bill Clinton did just fine being grilled again and again about a blow job. Bush senior could handle it as could George junior.

Trump knew the terms of the job when he started, If he didn't he isn't fit to be president. He was quite happy with ALL the press coverage till now, and he has never pinpointed anything that was wrong...just alleging "fake news"

What is missing in Trump's character that he can't do his job even the worst of 44 presidents never complained about? Could it be the moron can't move off election mode? Or is he so incompetent he can't do anything unless its behind closed doors.

"Dear Leader" is behaving like a two year old and the self appointed defenders of all things Trump have already run out of excuses and offer garbage like this echoing empty slogans like "fake news"

I have one for you "Baby Donny" and he needs to grow up fast

You have to admit this response is a far cry from what wee have seen or your ability. ****ing lame.

Trump: "I can't do what every other president has done...we have to impose rules on the free press for the first time in the history" to make America great again...

I was entirely wrong about the right in America. No one talk to me about the constitution...the trample on it to get things done, the right shreds it to silence dissent.

Take a look into the future....there's a huge toilet coming.
 
You realize that is 100% opinion?

I recall nothing of the sort. I recall him being grilled endlessly about job and recovery or the lack of it; but then memory is suspect.

I can agree with your point that memory is suspect. Speaking of that, do you have that $20 you owe me? :lol:
 
You were complaining about the press using made up sources, I asked you if it was OK when Trump does the same thing. It is completely relevant.

Me? I'm not complaining about the press. In my first post, I made fun of Byers and simply stated facts about the press. Regardless your spin, that's not complaining.

However, that post was totally on topic to the OP. You, and everyone else who responded to me, didn't dispute anything I said. Y'all didn't defend the press or Byers. You only deflected to Trump, Bannon and idiocy about those two. There is no relevancy to the topic in any of your posts.

Look. I understand. I get it. When you cannot support something said in the OP...when you cannot dispute something another member says...you deflect. That's all you CAN do. Sucks, I know...but that's the way it is.
 
Apparently you didn't watch ANY CNN during the election season because they most definitely took sides during the election. Hell, they even gave Hillary the questions that were to be asked at the 2nd Presidential Debate.

Didn't take sides....
I'm sure you do since I don't watch much of any of the news media. :shrug: I don't even have any TV channels.

Yes, I know they accepted her resignation after that came to light. I also know that she was "on leave" when it happened due to her campaigning for Hillary in order to avoid the appearance that CNN was taking sides. And had been on leave for awhile due to it. Being that she was on leave just how was it she came upon those questions then? Answer is obvious...someone at CNN gave her those questions.

Then I'm quite sure that you'll be able to come up with some CNN footage of them bashing Hillary like they have bashed Trump...right?

BTW: Ms. Brazille is on record as not being apologetic for what she did.
Are you going to acknowledge you were pushing a lie or not? I can believe you didn't know what you were talking about, but it would be the honest thing to do to acknowledge how you were wrong, both about CNN and the debates. While I know you were wrong, someone else might believe the things you were saying, like you seem to have done.

Do you wish to atone for your statements of falsehoods?


EDIT: Also, I'm very interested in your response as to how you can know CNN is biased if you never watch it. I'm very interested in your answer.
 
Trump is whining about the media criticizing him. Trump supporters are whining about the media attacking Trump. Both are whining about how the media isnt fair to Trump and his supporters. They go on and on about the truth. FFS Trump has been caught lying almost daily since he was elected. And then there is the entire Birther crap that Trump lied about for years. And then there is Bannon that headed a site that ****ing lied continuously and still is lying their asses off. I cant help to think that the Trump supporters have a huge disconnection with reality. Trump supporters care nothing about the truth they only care about making Trump look good to them. They thought Trumps victory meant they get to tell those damn Liberals what they can and cannot do say or even have to acknowledge their existence. Nothing but a bunch of whinny wannabe fascists, that think that since the Republicans control so much of the government that they get to be dictators. ANd they would be except for the US Constitution tells them to **** off..
 
And what is obvious to people on the left is that the media is not liberal, but corporate, and subservient to government and the ruling plutocracy.

Not anymore Jasper....With the MSM essentially pulling the mask off and outing themselves as a full fledged arm of the democrat party, no more can you claim that with any credibility.
 
Those folks in Arkansas waving Arkansas divers licenses don't look like liberals to me; neither did the pig farmer in Iowa.

23 GOP house members clearly recognize that Clinton won their CD and 36 more were close and are in play from the DNC.

But it gets better. 27 GOP governors are up next year, with 14 term limited .

And what will be your approach if, and when you don't have significant gains in those races? What if your beloved party actually looses ground in 2 years?
 
So, a handful of news organizations were left out of ONE "gaggle", and we are now on the precipice of state-sponsored censorship and a Hitler-esque dictatorship? Wow, I am glad people are being level headed about this. I was afraid partisanship was going to get the upper hand.
 
Those folks in Arkansas waving Arkansas divers licenses don't look like liberals to me; neither did the pig farmer in Iowa.

23 GOP house members clearly recognize that Clinton won their CD and 36 more were close and are in play from the DNC.

But it gets better. 27 GOP governors are up next year, with 14 term limited .

You can tell by their questions or comments that they are not Republican Conservatives.
 
The current year is 2017 and yer trumpistani deflection is noted and dismissed.

Americans don't like being told that Americans are the enemy of other Americans.

Tbh, if I were a Democrat first, I'd want trump to continue to let Bannon ruin his admin. My outspokenness on DP against Bannon proves I'm an American first .

It is a plain and simple fact that the majority of Americans haven't trusted the media for a very long time.
 
The difference is that your fears were irrational and based only on hyper partisan hyperbole. Clinton would have been a mediocre establishment president of no significant accomplishment but would have done no great harm either. She would have been wall street friendly and had an administration with policies much like her husband.

Hillary would have put my business out of business, destroying my life and would have fought hard for liberal values. She was half hard left liberal and have moderate Democrat. My fears were rational and she was not her husband. In fact, her husband is not her husband. Not only have his views changed since he was president, but he was forced to be moderate while president due to Republicans controlling Congress. However, I will give him credit for working with Republicans, something Obama refused to do. It was Obama's way or the highway, one reason why Trump was elected president. None of this takes into account that Hillary was a crook and rigged elections and owned the media and we don't need a crook in the White House.
 
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Hillary would have put my business out of business, destroying my life and would have fought hard for liberal values. She was half hard left liberal and have moderate Democrat. My fears were rational and she was not her husband. In fact, her husband is not her husband. Not only have his views changed since he was president, but he was forced to be moderate while president due to Republicans controlling Congress. However, I will give him credit for working with Republicans, something Obama refused to do. It was Obama's way or the highway, one reason why Trump was elected president. None of this takes into account that Hillary was a crook and rigged elections and owned the media and we don't need a crook in the White House.

What is your business then since you introduced it into the discussion?

Obama was informed on day one that the GOP in Congress would not work with him.

Your line about her husband is not her husband is something out of CHINATOWN. What does it mean?
 
I'm not a member of the party that has tried about 20 things now to overturn the election and delegitimize the Trump presidency.

No just the party that colluded with a hostile nation's internet attacks and rabid white nationalists.... Nothing serious.
 
What is your business then since you introduced it into the discussion?

Obama was informed on day one that the GOP in Congress would not work with him.

Your line about her husband is not her husband is something out of CHINATOWN. What does it mean?

I don't really want to go into detail about my business but huge increases to the minimum wage would destroy it. It is a service business. We don't sell anything so if wages doubled I couldn't just increase the cost of my hamburgers by 20 cents each. Any increases to the minimum wage would have to be fully absorbed by my customers so if minimum wage doubled then I would have to double my prices and, even at that, I would lose money due to several reasons. It is a type of service that many people would just forgo altogether if their prices doubled so the majority of my competition would also go out of business. I already explained to you why Bill Clinton isn't even Bill Clinton anymore and wasn't in the first place. I do give him a pat on the back though for working with Republicans, unlike Obama. Hillary had no intention of working with Republicans unless they did things her way, very much the Obama policy.
 
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