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Sweden Democrats: Trump was right[W:55]

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Here's a graph showing crime in Sweden. Stable levels. Nothing alarming to see here.

This combined with the Swedish officials statements should be enough to prove Trump a lying windbag.

Here's an idea for the refugee fear mongers out there. Go out and find some crime rates that fit your narrative. Find them yourself. Post them here. Don't rely on Trump for your information. Because Trump relies on MSM for his information. And y'all don't trust the MSM. So, go find some statistics, show me, and then I'll consider the possibility that refugees' religion of Islam causes them to rape white women at unnaturally high levels.
 
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How surprising that they would say something like that.

Color me shocked. :roll:
 
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Here's a graph showing crime in Sweden. Stable levels. Nothing alarming to see here.

This combined with the Swedish officials statements should be enough to prove Trump a deceitful windbag.

Here's an idea for the refugee fear mongers out there. Go out and find some crime rates that fit your narrative. Find them yourself. Post them here. Don't rely on Trump for your information. Because Trump relies on MSM for his information. And y'all don't trust the MSM. So, go find some statistics, show me, and then I'll consider the possibility that refugees Islam causes them to rape white women at unnaturally high levels.

https://www.cbs.nl/-...ji2016s_web.pdf

So you know, it's actually been proven that there are governments in Europe that purposefully skew crime statistics so as to make refugees not seem as criminal.
 
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then you really don't have an argument.

No, just pointing out that you guys are using partisan views and not any kind of non-partisan facts or data. I don't have any argument as to the content of their claim.

But you can all keep up your partisan love fest with each other. I'd say it's funny, but it's really sad to watch formerly good posters be so partisan. Meh, carry on.
 
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They are leaders of a minor far-right political party, of course they are going to push the narrative without providing real evidence.

Sweden does have problems with immigration. Crime is much higher in among foreign born and persons whose parents were foreign. I believe the number of crime by these two minorities together are about 45 percent. That is not the dangerous development, which is the shift in voter opinions i.e. policy changes concerning open borders or refugees.
 
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Sweden Democrats: Trump was right | Fox News


Wow, looks like the others in the government (current and former Swedish prime ministers) are lying. The data available is Swedish govt data, as confirmed in the article video. So, the rapes that aren't occurring, are in fact occurring according to the Tucker Carlson interview.

Wow two whole people.
 
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Says the guy who probably never started a serious thread or post some real news. You're just a drive-by critic. So you wouldn't know the other side view if it was pumped into your ears at 150 db.
 
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They are leaders of a minor far-right political party, of course they are going to push the narrative without providing real evidence.

Islam is pushed on the people, the people will eventually push back.
 
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Sometimes I have trouble keeping up with the rules here.

The Swedish police say the video was fraudulent and embellished. They're wrong! They lie! The far right wing anti-immigrant politicians say Trump was right. They're right! They're truthful!
 
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https://www.cbs.nl/-...ji2016s_web.pdf

So you know, it's actually been proven that there are governments in Europe that purposefully skew crime statistics so as to make refugees not seem as criminal.

If anything Sweden's sexual assault levels should be skewed in an upward direction. They have a liberal definition of the crime. When they revised what constituted a rape in Sweden, rape numbers went up. The data is misleading. Refugees aren't going full-viking mode on the Swedes. So, this instance does not fit your narrative that governments lie to protect refugees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden
 
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It isn't irrelevant. They're an anti-immigration far right party. If they were far left and pro-immigration, and said "President Obama's stance on immigrants is right", you'd be tossing their opinion aside because they share Obama's opinion.

Nobody called anyone liars. People are pointing out to you that they share the Trump immigration stance, hate homosexuality, are extremely far right, and are as partisan as it gets. Precisely what did you think they would do - say the documentary was false?

I don't think you actually knew who they were before you posted this. You probably saw "Democrats" and assumed something that wasn't the case.

Meh, carry on. You don't want to learn. It isn't even worth debating partisan hackery.

The blinders are impenetrable.
 
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Sometimes I have trouble keeping up with the rules here.

The Swedish police say the video was fraudulent and embellished. They're wrong! They lie! The far right wing anti-immigrant politicians say Trump was right. They're right! They're truthful!

So whats the truth?
 
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Says the guy who probably never started a serious thread or post some real news. You're just a drive-by critic. So you wouldn't know the other side view if it was pumped into your ears at 150 db.

Go ahead and deflect all you want. But just remember, Tres destroyed your argument. And unlike me, she's conservative.

You should be embarrassed.
 
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Go ahead and deflect all you want. But just remember, Tres destroyed your argument. And unlike me, she's conservative.

You should be embarrassed.
She destroyed nothing. All she did was attempt to destroy and smear the source--a source and a nation she knows absolutely nothing about.
 
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So whats the truth?

How would I know? I'm not in Sweden.

If a far left Congressman says "Obama is right", does that mean the matter is closed, and Obama is right? Or do you take what he says with a grain of salt because you already know he shares Obama's values?

I keep reading that the MSM hates Trump because they love Hillary. Did you believe them every time they said Hillary was right and Trump was wrong, or did you put aside their views as "Thanks for sharing, but we know you are completely on your side so your opinion really isn't relevant"?

I know what I did when partisans from either side spoke their minds. I read it, and then proceeded to ignore it, and wait for someone who I know wasn't far-(insert lean here) to speak up, or for some non-biased data to surface that I could look at.
 
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She destroyed nothing. All she did was attempt to destroy and smear the source--a source and a nation she knows absolutely nothing about.

If I didn't know who the Swedish Democrats were, how did I know who they were?
 
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https://www.cbs.nl/-...ji2016s_web.pdf

So you know, it's actually been proven that there are governments in Europe that purposefully skew crime statistics so as to make refugees not seem as criminal.

His graph ends at 2014 which has nothing to do with what is being discussed here.
 
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Why are liberals trying so hard to defend rapes in Sweden? Is it because they want to pick apart anything Trump does? Or is it because they love third world criminals so much that they'll go to the ends of the Earth to defend them and give them handouts?

Or do they just feel the need to support rape.


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They are leaders of a minor far-right political party, of course they are going to push the narrative without providing real evidence.

HUNDREDS of cars set on fire, a school in flames and angry youths hurling stones at the police. This is not the banlieue in France but suburbs in supposedly peaceful Sweden. Six nights of arson and violence in Stockholm’s poorer suburbs, where a majority of residents are immigrants, have shaken the Nordic country and created international headlines.

For much of this year, discrimination of immigrants and racism have been hotly debated in a country where 14% of its 9.6m people are foreign born. Now the riots could make immigration and integration the pivotal debate in Swedish politics.

On the night of May 24th cars were set ablaze in several Stockholm suburbs but fewer incidents were reported compared to previous nights. Instead, unrest spread to other towns, including Örebro, 160 kilometres west of Stockholm, where masked youths threw stones at the police and damaged a police station.

Sweden's riots: Is the integration of immigrants failing? | The Economist

Muslim refugees and the cost of Sweden's kindness - Canada - CBC News

Muslim refugees and the cost of Sweden's kindness - Canada - CBC News
 
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Why are liberals trying so hard to defend rapes in Sweden? Is it because they want to pick apart anything Trump does? Or is it because they love third world criminals so much that they'll go to the ends of the Earth to defend them and give them handouts?

Or do they just feel the need to support rape.


here-come-dat-rape-bar-la-ohh-wadup-sweden-sweden-2592418.png

Political correctness knows no shame.
 
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HUNDREDS of cars set on fire, a school in flames and angry youths hurling stones at the police. This is not the banlieue in France but suburbs in supposedly peaceful Sweden. Six nights of arson and violence in Stockholm’s poorer suburbs, where a majority of residents are immigrants, have shaken the Nordic country and created international headlines.

For much of this year, discrimination of immigrants and racism have been hotly debated in a country where 14% of its 9.6m people are foreign born. Now the riots could make immigration and integration the pivotal debate in Swedish politics.

On the night of May 24th cars were set ablaze in several Stockholm suburbs but fewer incidents were reported compared to previous nights. Instead, unrest spread to other towns, including Örebro, 160 kilometres west of Stockholm, where masked youths threw stones at the police and damaged a police station.

Sweden's riots: Is the integration of immigrants failing? | The Economist

Muslim refugees and the cost of Sweden's kindness - Canada - CBC News

Muslim refugees and the cost of Sweden's kindness - Canada - CBC News

You're quoting from an article in The Economist from 2013. Not saying the problem doesn't exist, but that's an old article and a blind one, written by "K.L." (whoever that is).

On Super Bowl Sunday 18 American white college students rioted and burned cars. They were all arrested yesterday after the investigation was finished. I hope that doesn't mean that we have a problem now with white American college students.

But there may very well be a big problem with immigrants going wild in Sweden. I haven't seen enough either way.
 
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Yea ... Trump was "Right" :lamo ... and what Year was that?
 
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