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George Takei apparently has very similar views to Milo on Pederasty and Molestation

Re: George Takei apparently has very similar views to Milo on Pederasty and Molestati

Mustachio said:
Go after Bannon. That guy matters, beat his wife, blackmailed her and nobody cares. Unless he's talking to foreign leaders with Trump by his side.
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Give me a break - because you don't like Breitbart, you've decided to believe Bannon is a wife-beater. Remember that Breitbart also co-founded your beloved Left-wing rag, the Huffington Post.
 
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MaggieD said:
One wonders if this crap is what sends young men in that direction...

I'm guessing that, if he still has a contract with Taco Bell, it may soon be over.

Howard Stern and crew are assholes.
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I was molested and raped over a 6 month period at a private school. It made me the lesbian I am today. Seriously.
 
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Renae said:
I was molested and raped over a 6 month period at a private school. It made me the lesbian I am today. Seriously.
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I don't want to get into this very deeply. But I believe you are who you are not from a horrible moment that happened in your childhood, rather you were born the way you were and you have grown to accept it now.
 
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Verax said:
Also I don't remember George being an extremely controversial figure that has ties to a fake news organization that has strong ties to the presidency.
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None of which is relevant to this thread or the issue of child molestation.
 
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ajn678 said:
I don't want to get into this very deeply. But I believe you are who you are not from a horrible moment that happened in your childhood, rather you were born the way you were and you have grown to accept it now.
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Despicable...
 
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Yarff said:
The way our society is structured now, it just doesn't really make sense for a 25 year old to hook up with a 16 year old, ...
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You should tell that to the legislatures of the many states where such an interaction is perfectly legal.


On the other hand, however... I don't think we're wrong for having age of consent laws either. The way our society is structured now, it just doesn't really make sense for a 25 year old to hook up with a 16 year old, or even really an 18 year old. There are too many barriers in the way as far as things like schooling, income, and relative social power are concerned. It's also illegal.
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One of your reasons for finding certain laws acceptable cannot be because those laws exist.
 
Re: George Takei apparently has very similar views to Milo on Pederasty and Molestati

MaggieD said:
One wonders if this crap is what sends young men in that direction...

I'm guessing that, if he still has a contract with Taco Bell, it may soon be over.

Howard Stern and crew are assholes.
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If it is then I must have been an ugly kid because nobody tried to molest me.
 
Re: George Takei apparently has very similar views to Milo on Pederasty and Molestati

ajn678 said:
I don't want to get into this very deeply. But I believe you are who you are not from a horrible moment that happened in your childhood, rather you were born the way you were and you have grown to accept it now.
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Blasphemy!
 
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Yarff said:
Supposedly, Kinsey claimed something along the lines of what Maggie said back in the day as well. He found that a lot of gay men had a history of molestation, often times from older brothers.

However, Kinsey was a perverted quack with biases the size of a small moon, who also probably made a lot of things up to justify his own life choices. You can take it with a grain of salt as such, I suppose.
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That's no moon...
 
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CriticalThought said:
If it is then I must have been an ugly kid because nobody tried to molest me.
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My husband was raised Catholic by my holy rolling mother in law. He said in all his years of Catholic school and being an altar boy no priest ever molested him. I told him it was because he was an ugly hockey player.
 
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NIMBY said:
Conservatives are trying to disown the alt-right but too late now.

Can't wait to hear Bannon at CPAC .
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We finally agree on something: I cant wait to hear Bannon speak either. I have never heard the guy speak, and have only heard the alt-left crazies speak for him.
 
Re: George Takei apparently has very similar views to Milo on Pederasty and Molestati

oh my!
 
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sanman said:
Give me a break - because you don't like Breitbart, you've decided to believe Bannon is a wife-beater. Remember that Breitbart also co-founded your beloved Left-wing rag, the Huffington Post.
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No, I decided Bannon is a wife beater because he attacked and choked his wife and then gave her a ton of money to not put his sad, pathetic self in prison. You can read about it if you want. The Huffington post and Breitbart have made us all dumber. There's nothing beloved about either one to me and further, Breitbart the person didn't tell Bannon to choke his wife and throw things at her head in front of their children. Oh yes - allegedly. He just choked her allegedly. And that's "allegedly" why her neck was bruised in the police report.
 
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ajn678 said:
I don't want to get into this very deeply. But I believe you are who you are not from a horrible moment that happened in your childhood, rather you were born the way you were and you have grown to accept it now.
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Yes yes, I meant that solidified my non-attracted to males. That's all!
 
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Ahh the right is true their code... attack anyone who is exposing their lies and double standard no matter where. Mr Sulu has been ripping Trump and his goons including Milo on Twitter for weeks, and now the blow back by the alt-right Russian-American social media bot army.
 
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Yarff said:
Hey man, you're the one who rolled in here all butt hurt and spastically defensive, making wild excuses for George Takei, while simultaneously engaging in off-the-wall mental gymnastics that somehow make it wrong for Milo to do the exact same thing that you're - apparently - unconditionally forgiving George for.

Don't make excuses for your non-self aware hypocrisy to me.
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But what Milo said wasn't close to the "exact same thing." Milo went much further, claimed in many cases the young boy was the "predator", and defended those relationships as healthy.
 
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Yarff said:
I just think the thing is a bit more complicated than the popular narrative likes to make out. Milo tried to say as much, I think, and everyone immediately jumped to the conclusion that he must be a "pedophile," or "NAMBLA advocate." That's just not really fair to his actual intent.
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At least in my mind, what made Milo's comments indefensible is claiming that the boy was OFTEN the "predator" in those relationships. It's a built in excuse for child molesters of any kind - "He/she WANTED it! I couldn't help myself! He/she forced herself/himself on me! I'm the VICTIM here!"

Takei in these interviews claims none of that. He clearly describes the camp counselor as the "predator" in that case, and does not claim, for example, that the counselor was engaging in anything like healthy behavior. If he claimed it was OK for counselors to initiate or HAVE sex with underage campers in any kind of general way, the statements are equivalent, but Takei never did anything of the sort.

And like others have said, what liberals think of Milo is not really the point here. They're not Milo's fans, and so claiming it's some sort of liberal plot that conservative CPAC and Breitbart threw him under the bus is nothing but diversion. Also, "but Ma! HE did it TOO!!" was a pathetic excuse when we were 12 and is even more pathetic for adults to use as a defense.
 
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Mac77 said:
Even if he is a pedophile Takie is a liberal first of all and that means moral standards do not apply to him
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No, but nice stereotype!
 
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Yarff said:
MILO - TAPE OF GEORGE TAKEI JOKING ABOUT CHILD MOLESTATION POPS UP, JAKE TAPPER NOWHERE TO BE FOUND

Thoughts?
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I had an online acquaintance for years who was a gay man from the UK. He was a fairly conservative gay man, driven by what he saw as a suicidal bent on normalizing radical Islam in his country.

I mention him because he and I parted ways eventually because of his views on pedophilia. He and some of his friends would occasionally engage is sexual tourism in Southeast Asia where girls and boys as young as 10 were available for exploitation. His conservatism didn't really intersect with his sexuality, and for him sexual mores were entirely dependent on the law of the region you were in, so if all you need to have sex with a young boy in Thailand is to pay the right people it was OK by him.

This isn't to say that his views were because he was gay, more that my personal experience with this particular bent on sexual perversion always seems to be with gay men. But I am sure there are a lot of straight men engaged in such perverse sexual tourism as well, most asuredly deluding themselves with the same "when in Rome" style justification.

Soon after we parted ways I read that the UK had passed a law making it possible for the UK to convict UK citizens for extraterritorial acts of pedophilia (passed in around 2002 to 2003, if I recall). I wondered at the time whether that law had changed his moral stance, but not enough to reconnect with the creep to find out.
 
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sanman said:
Give me a break - because you don't like Breitbart, you've decided to believe Bannon is a wife-beater. Remember that Breitbart also co-founded your beloved Left-wing rag, the Huffington Post.
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Bannon's Breitbart was a completely different animal to Breitbarts Breitbart.

It's documented rather well how Bannon completely changed it from Andrew Breitbarts original mission statement. There was an employee exodus.
 
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Takei isn't a NAMBLA enabler.
 
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JMaximus said:
None of which is relevant to this thread or the issue of child molestation.
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You think the discussion of Milo and George is not political and is just about the right suddenly becoming very, very concerned about issues of coercive sexual relationships with underage boys?
 
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Goshin said:
Ah. So its okay for liberals, death for conservatives.


Got it.
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To be clear, it wasn't liberals who rescinded his CPAC speaking invitation, cancelled his book deal, or drove him to resign from Breitbart.
 
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