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"Last Night in Sweden"? Trump Remarks Baffles a Nation

Higgins86 said:
Coal miners back to work? You think trying to revive a dying industry is a good thing?
As for cutting cost....A month in and he's on track to spend hundreds of millions more than his predecessor on vacations alone.
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I think putting people back to work is a good thing and the processes are no available to produce cleaner coal that can be used to make steel stronger. Let me know when Trump spends hundreds of millions more or reaches the 9.4 TRILLION Obama added to the debt. Your obvious bias is on full display and is as accurate as most predictions about the election. I don't put a lot of credibility in individuals projecting hundreds of millions in vacation expenses from people who claim to be independent but are nothing more than anti Trump zealots
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Malmö is Europe's seven most happy cities according to a study.

European Commission data: European cities where most people are very satisfied with their lives - Business Insider

Also spreading fake and distorted facts about Sweden have become a global business.



From this basement came a piece of fake news about who had desecrated a church in Sweden - DN.SE
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Your survey is bull****.



From January 2017. 96% of the citizens are happy with that?
Below from 2 years ago.
Sweden: 30 grenade attacks in 6 months in Muslim-dominated Malmö
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https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/08/sweden-30-grenade-attacks-in-6-months-in-muslim-dominated-malmo
 
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Our situation in Finland is pretty similar to that of Sweden. We're smaller and a bit less liberal, but we've taken our fair share of refugees over the last few years. It's true that there has been a modest rise in some types of violent crimes according to the few statistics I managed to find, although from what I understand they're pretty inconclusive still. That being said, crimes against the immigrant population have also risen to similar degree. These statistics shouldn't surprise anyone. These people barely have a thing to their name, they don't speak the language and the culture feels decidedly alien to them. Small wonder that young men especially are easily driven to crime. The only "easy" solution to a situation like this is the "out of sight, out of mind" approach, which is the one that the Trumps of this world are so eager to take. Okay, yes, it might work, but it comes with a horrible humanitarian cost. And plays straight into the hands of the radical islamic terrorists. On the other hand, it's naive to expect that accepting large amount of immigrants won't also bring a whole bag of issues to the society. Instead of ranting about immigrants and offering band-aid type solutions Trump should concentrate on keeping his big promises about the Middle East. That is the root of this current immigration crisis.
 
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Chagos said:
It's often hidden in one's quote box (no idea how or why) so that it doesn't appear until in the actual reply on the DP page.

In any case, you seem to have solved it or it has solved itself.
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I didn't do anything different so it must have solved itself.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I haven't lied about a single thing. If you want to make me a liar you are going to have to produce the evidence. I have dutifully quoted your remarks in their full context without edit or without removing a single word in every single post I have posted to you. Show me where I did not do that or twisted your words into anything you didn't actually say.

You did say that Trump lied about Bowling Green.
You did say that Trump lied about Atlanta.

You did not qualify either remark when you made them.

That's a fact.
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You're confusing him with me. And I never said that, as I've told you multiple times now.
AlbqOwl said:
Okay I took the time to go back and look and I do owe you an apology. In the rapid fire posts directed to me over several pages I confused you with Slyfox who DID make those statements.
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No, Slyfox did not. Why do you keep posting this lie, when I have corrected it numerous times already? Slyfox never said Trump said anything about Bowling Green or Atlanta, Slyfox said the Trump Administration lied about Bowling Green, Atlanta and Sweden.

Stop posting things which are blatantly false. I don't give a rat's rear end if you're replying to numerous people, take the time to understand what you're replying to before you reply, so you don't post things which are false.
ModerateGOP said:
Thank you for apologizing for that. I understand that you may be getting a lot of notifications, but you may want to slow down before accusing others who may not be as diligent or level headed on discussion boards.
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In addition to what ModerateGOP said, slow down before you falsely represent what others say, when they've pointed out to you on THREE separate occasions you're not telling the truth about what they said.

AlbqOwl, the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION lied about Bowling Green, there was no terrorism in Atlanta and Trump literally made up something out of thin air about Sweden. The TRUMP ADMINISTRATION is literally making up violence by immigrants which has never happened, all to rouse fear in the general populace. You defending this despicable behavior suggests a dishonesty I would not want attached to my name, if it were me. I highly suggest you stop defending these blatant falsehoods.

EDIT: AlbqOwl, I literally bolded every instance of Trump Administration for you so you can finally get it through your head what I said and so you'll stop posting things which are not true. If you continue to post things which are not true about what I've said, I'll have no choice but to assume you are a deliberate liar. I'd rather not assume that about anyone.
 
Conservative said:
I think putting people back to work is a good thing and the processes are no available to produce cleaner coal that can be used to make steel stronger. Let me know when Trump spends hundreds of millions more or reaches the 9.4 TRILLION Obama added to the debt. Your obvious bias is on full display and is as accurate as most predictions about the election. I don't put a lot of credibility in individuals projecting hundreds of millions in vacation expenses from people who claim to be independent but are nothing more than anti Trump zealots
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My bias is on display?

I made the point that Trump displays incredible stupidity by quoting a Fox news fluff piece in a speech without doing any research etc. You ignored that instead tried to make a point about the coal industry despite the fact many experts don't see many jobs being created in that industry despite them ripping up the stream protection rule.
 
Higgins86 said:
My bias is on display?

I made the point that Trump displays incredible stupidity by quoting a Fox news fluff piece in a speech without doing any research etc. You ignored that instead tried to make a point about the coal industry despite the fact many experts don't see many jobs being created in that industry despite them ripping up the stream protection rule.
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What is incredible stupidity is that you can bring in thousands and thousands of immigrants into a country, not have the infrastructure or jobs to handle them and then not have problems. it is reality that you want to ignore. You aren't having any problems in England?

https://www.google.com/#q=immigration+problems+in+england
 
Slyfox696 said:
You're confusing him with me. And I never said that, as I've told you multiple times now.
No, Slyfox did not. Why do you keep posting this lie, when I have corrected it numerous times already? Slyfox never said Trump said anything about Bowling Green or Atlanta, Slyfox said the Trump Administration lied about Bowling Green, Atlanta and Sweden.

Stop posting things which are blatantly false. I don't give a rat's rear end if you're replying to numerous people, take the time to understand what you're replying to before you reply, so you don't post things which are false.
In addition to what ModerateGOP said, slow down before you falsely represent what others say, when they've pointed out to you on THREE separate occasions you're not telling the truth about what they said.

AlbqOwl, the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION lied about Bowling Green, there was no terrorism in Atlanta and Trump literally made up something out of thin air about Sweden. The TRUMP ADMINISTRATION is literally making up violence by immigrants which has never happened, all to rouse fear in the general populace. You defending this despicable behavior suggests a dishonesty I would not want attached to my name, if it were me. I highly suggest you stop defending these blatant falsehoods.

EDIT: AlbqOwl, I literally bolded every instance of Trump Administration for you so you can finally get it through your head what I said and so you'll stop posting things which are not true. If you continue to post things which are not true about what I've said, I'll have no choice but to assume you are a deliberate liar. I'd rather not assume that about anyone.
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You made the initial post in your Post #121. I responded to that Post shortly after in my post #126. You did not give me an answer I don't believe to Post #126. I don't know if you edited Post #121 when I called you on it or not--but I do not recall you saying anything about the administration at the time. If you did, then I missed that. And that would be another error on my part and I again will apologize.
 
AlbqOwl said:
You made the initial post in your Post #121. I responded to that Post shortly after in my post #126. You did not give me an answer I don't believe to Post #126.
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I did. Right here:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...-remarks-baffles-nation-6.html#post1066905792

You replied to that post, right here:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...-remarks-baffles-nation-6.html#post1066906107

So I replied to you and then you replied to my reply. You've had multiple opportunities to read where I clarified that I said Trump Administration. Own up to the fact you refused to acknowledge it.

I don't know if you edited Post #121 when I called you on it
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I didn't. You ignored what I said, multiple times, even as you quoted me each time. Even in post 126 of yours, you can see that I said Trump Administration.

I'll allow you to admit you initially failed to comprehend what you read, but you have no excuse for the multiple other posts I made in which you flatly refused to read what you responded to.

but I do not recall you saying anything about the administration at the time.
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I did...see what you quoted from me in post 126 of yours.

If you did, then I missed that. And that would be another error on my part and I again will apologize.
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I appreciate the apology. But you didn't just miss it once, you missed it multiple times. Are you apologizing for obviously posting without reading what you were replying to? And are you apologizing for repeatedly claiming I said something I never said?

I'm not trying to rub your face in it, but I'm very curious just how honest you're wishing to be. If you're trying to be 100% honest, I would really appreciate that, but for me to believe that to be your intention, you'll need to apologize not just for missing it the first time, but for each time after that you quoted me and ignored the fact I said Trump Administration, even when I bolded it.


And ALL of this comes back to the original point, which is the fact the Trump Administration has repeatedly created attacks by immigrants which have not happened, all to instill fear in the general populace, an incredibly despicable tactic. For you to defend such a tactic is almost as awful as the tactic itself. Don't fall for it, call them for the lies they are.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Trump continues to cite non-existent terrorist attacks. :roll: It's just another Sunday morning. He keeps saying he is going to make this country strong. If the ban wasn't enough people should be really worried about what happens next.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/...in-sweden-trumps-remark-baffles-a-nation.html
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...or-incident/RHZuydisC35g8tZI6S5mqK/story.html
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Sweden IS a Muslim Immigrant Crime/Rape DISASTER.
(as is neighbor Oslo, Norway where one can get some Overwhelming stats to that effect)
Leftists hide behind the fact Sweden doesn't really allow stats by Race/religion
Even criticizing Govt immigration policy can be considered Hate Speech.

Though in his usual Hyperbolic manner, Trump Lied/wildly enhanced with "Last Night."
Sweden is so socially Leftist it is self Destructing.
I have been posting on this for a good while.
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...-8#q=Mbig"+sweden+site:www.debatepolitics.com

I give you: (Warning contains a few nasty words, but posted 3 or 4 times in Europe section previous)

 
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Slyfox696 said:
I did. Right here:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...-remarks-baffles-nation-6.html#post1066905792

You replied to that post, right here:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...-remarks-baffles-nation-6.html#post1066906107

So I replied to you and then you replied to my reply. You've had multiple opportunities to read where I clarified that I said Trump Administration. Own up to the fact you refused to acknowledge it.

I didn't. You ignored what I said, multiple times, even as you quoted me each time. Even in post 126 of yours, you can see that I said Trump Administration.

I'll allow you to admit you initially failed to comprehend what you read, but you have no excuse for the multiple other posts I made in which you flatly refused to read what you responded to.

I did...see what you quoted from me in post 126 of yours.

I appreciate the apology. But you didn't just miss it once, you missed it multiple times. Are you apologizing for obviously posting without reading what you were replying to? And are you apologizing for repeatedly claiming I said something I never said?

I'm not trying to rub your face in it, but I'm very curious just how honest you're wishing to be. If you're trying to be 100% honest, I would really appreciate that, but for me to believe that to be your intention, you'll need to apologize not just for missing it the first time, but for each time after that you quoted me and ignored the fact I said Trump Administration, even when I bolded it.


And ALL of this comes back to the original point, which is the fact the Trump Administration has repeatedly created attacks by immigrants which have not happened, all to instill fear in the general populace, an incredibly despicable tactic. For you to defend such a tactic is almost as awful as the tactic itself. Don't fall for it, call them for the lies they are.
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I'm sorry but your links are not taking me to your post or my post in response.
 
Master PO said:
Tucker Carlson Explains Sweden Segment | TVNewser

Trumps on SAT. mentions a fox story on FRI night [ last night] on Sweden.

Trumps never mentions terror.
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It's in Trump's interest to start actually saying what he means. Talking about a story on Fox News, and not saying that he was actually talking about something he saw on television, in the middle of comments about keeping America safe and attacks in Germany, is mystifying to most people. He brings these problems upon himself. The man needs to work on the concept of stringing thoughts together.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I indeed should be more careful in that regard. And having 10 or more notifications to respond to is no excuse. It is a reason. But not a justification. So again I apologize.
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AlbqOwl said:
That others do it is no excuse for me doing it though. :)
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Ok, have it your way. You totally suck in every way. :2razz:


(Totally, totally joking)
 
AlbqOwl said:
I'm sorry but your links are not taking me to your post or my post in response.
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First link is post 207 and second is post 222. Once you review those, I'd appreciate your full apology for all of your posts which falsely accused me of saying something I never said. And then I'd appreciate you acknowledging the routine falsehoods being presented by the Trump Administration to elicit fear.
 
Slyfox696 said:
First link is post 207 and second is post 222. Once you review those, I'd appreciate your full apology for all of your posts which falsely accused me of saying something I never said. And then I'd appreciate you acknowledging the routine falsehoods being presented by the Trump Administration to elicit fear.
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Okay, if you didn't edit your original post--and you have not denied that you did--I fully apologize for misinterpreting your intent with that post. Okay?

I will not acknowledge that anybody in the Trump administration is putting out routine falsehoods to elicit fear. I do not believe that and I do not believe you have made any kind of case for that.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Okay, if you didn't edit your original post--and you have not denied that you did--I fully apologize for misinterpreting your intent with that post. Okay?
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I have denied editing my post. Multiple times. I did not edit it. You quoted me in post 126 saying Trump Administration.

I appreciate your full apology, for every post of mine in which you ignored my position.

I will not acknowledge that anybody in the Trump administration is putting out routine falsehoods to elicit fear.
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In one month's time, the Trump Administration has cited specific examples of immigrant violence in Bowling Green, Atlanta and Sweden...none of which have actually happened. Why do you think they keep making these things up? And it's not accidental, both Conway and Spicer made their claims numerous times in numerous situations.

These are intentional acts. Stop burying your head in the sand and pretending these are all just a coincidence. The Trump machine campaigned on fear and has governed in their one month's time on fear. It's about being scared of immigrants. Stop pretending these made up acts of violence aren't intentional.
 
Year Zero said:
Our situation in Finland is pretty similar to that of Sweden. We're smaller and a bit less liberal, but we've taken our fair share of refugees over the last few years. It's true that there has been a modest rise in some types of violent crimes according to the few statistics I managed to find, although from what I understand they're pretty inconclusive still. That being said, crimes against the immigrant population have also risen to similar degree. These statistics shouldn't surprise anyone. These people barely have a thing to their name, they don't speak the language and the culture feels decidedly alien to them. Small wonder that young men especially are easily driven to crime. The only "easy" solution to a situation like this is the "out of sight, out of mind" approach, which is the one that the Trumps of this world are so eager to take. Okay, yes, it might work, but it comes with a horrible humanitarian cost. And plays straight into the hands of the radical islamic terrorists. On the other hand, it's naive to expect that accepting large amount of immigrants won't also bring a whole bag of issues to the society. Instead of ranting about immigrants and offering band-aid type solutions Trump should concentrate on keeping his big promises about the Middle East. That is the root of this current immigration crisis.
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Are you sure you're not being threatened by a Yemeni refugee right now into saying this?
 
The President of the United States is a hideous stupid fool. "Sweden", "The press is the enemy of the people", "Mexico will pay for the wall", "This administration is running like a fine tuned machine". He has left the White House to play golf in Florida for three of the last three weekends and this after criticizing Obama for golfing. Hell, he just got the job and is gone golfing already!!
 
tres borrachos said:
It's in Trump's interest to start actually saying what he means. Talking about a story on Fox News, and not saying that he was actually talking about something he saw on television, in the middle of comments about keeping America safe and attacks in Germany, is mystifying to most people. He brings these problems upon himself. The man needs to work on the concept of stringing thoughts together.
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the problem here is people wanted to associate terror with trumps comments on sweden, however that not what was said.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
It's OK that you're compelled to think that's actually true.

Me? I'll stick with reality. You should check it out some time.
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Not compelled, it is actually the truth. You are literally putting words in his mouth to arrive at what you believe.
 
jmotivator said:
Not compelled, it is actually the truth. You are literally putting words in his mouth to arrive at what you believe.
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Yet again you're compelled into these oddball flights of fancy.

I'm not putting words in his mouth, nor can you demonstrate that I am.
 
Trump was right. He just shouldn't have stated "Last night".

Sweden IS suffering from migrant crime wave says cop | Daily Mail Online

Trump may have garbled the message but Sweden IS experiencing a migrant crime wave, according to cop accused of 'inciting racial hatred' after online rant about 'criminal immigrants'

-Trump said on Saturday that something terrible had happened in Sweden
-Many thought he'd invented a terrorist attack, but he said he was talking crime
-On Feb 3, a veteran cop in the Swedish city of Orebro wrote a weary rant
-He blamed 'criminal immigrants' from Muslim countries for most crimes there
-The cop, Peter Springaire, said he was not blaming all immigrants or refugees
-But he said officials were ignoring the issue of incompatible cultures mixing
-Sweden accepted 650K asylum seekers in 15 years, 163K in 2015 alone
 
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