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Trump family trips cost taxpayers $11.3m in one month = Obama $12m in 1 YEAR

Partsguy57 said:
Lol not much of a life you have there in Canada do you if you are reduced to following US politics? No surprise from the crowd that still "bows" to the queen. Cheers

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Outstanding post. A prime example...
 
Casca XV said:
The Obama family Africa trip cost $50 million. Trump just saved tax payer s at least a Billion renegotiating military jet fighter contacts while Obama increased the national debt more than the 43 previous Presidents combined.
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...and exactly what policy did Obama enact that increase the national debt. Answer: almost none. The national debt run up is largely due to the federal budget infrastructure put in place during the Bush Administration AND the aging population. Social security is no longer a money maker for the federal government as it was 10 years ago.

No, Trump's travel v Obama's travel, though a trivial issue, is far game given the Fox and many DP posters tried to make a big deal our of Obama's travels, but they are minor league to Trumps.
 
Top Cat said:
You bitched incessantly about Obama's spending. Trump will clearly out spend him and now your tune changes. Typical from righties like you.
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Post my, "incessant bitching". I dare you.
 
code1211 said:
I say you're basing this accounting on a fantasy based on a report conducted in October BEFORE THE ELECTION.

From you link:

"The three Mar-a-Lago trips in Palm Beach cost the federal treasury around $10m, based on figures used in an October government report analysing White House travel."
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One of you Trump supporters said Trump's trips cost more than Obama's because he has a bigger family. Now the claim is that the cost of a Presidential trip based on the cost of Obama's trips are fantasy? You guys need to get your stories straight.

Paying for President Trump's Travel and Security Costs - ABC News
 
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joG said:
You know? I dislike Trump and think it was risky making him president. But the question about the cost of his travel is just sour grapes and pooulist muck.
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I would agree but no. Why?

1) Not only has Trump had a long history on complaining about Obama and his so called vacations.. the amount of them and how much they have cost, but he has stated that he would never do that. Well he is.
2) The GOP has been bitching about Obamas golf games and vacations, while forgetting the king of Vacation.. Bush Jr, but now they have a new king and he is on track to be the most costly president in history when it comes to vacations and travelling.

The right wing hypocrisy is ripe and stinky....

And lets not forget that if his wife stays in New York for 4 years, that will be a half a billion dollars for the US taxpayer.. So suck on that.
 
PeteEU said:
I would agree but no. Why?

1) Not only has Trump had a long history on complaining about Obama and his so called vacations.. the amount of them and how much they have cost, but he has stated that he would never do that. Well he is.
2) The GOP has been bitching about Obamas golf games and vacations, while forgetting the king of Vacation.. Bush Jr, but now they have a new king and he is on track to be the most costly president in history when it comes to vacations and travelling.

The right wing hypocrisy is ripe and stinky....

And lets not forget that if his wife stays in New York for 4 years, that will be a half a billion dollars for the US taxpayer.. So suck on that.
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This.
 
upsideguy said:
...and exactly what policy did Obama enact that increase the national debt. Answer: almost none. The national debt run up is largely due to the federal budget infrastructure put in place during the Bush Administration AND the aging population. Social security is no longer a money maker for the federal government as it was 10 years ago.

No, Trump's travel v Obama's travel, though a trivial issue, is far game given the Fox and many DP posters tried to make a big deal our of Obama's travels, but they are minor league to Trumps.
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Obamacare alone added over a added almost 2 trillion. and I could go on all day.... Nice try. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...9I3XeH_Nw6HQ6Eiqw&sig2=sq_tCKV_UKxnewx47pdPLg
 
Astonished said:
Only because Republicans have been griping for 4 years that Obama spends too much money traveling with his family.

Now here we are with Trump spending $500,000 per day so his wife can live in NYC while he lives in DC. And they fly to Florida every weekend which costs $11 million a month.

Obama's travel cost $12 million a year.

Will the Republicans show blatant hypocrisy by being ok with this?

Of course.
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This may be fake news.
Hard to believe that Obama's travels cost $12 million a year when a supportive article from the Washington Post lists a single trip that Obama took to Africa as costing $60-$100 million. That alone would mean $7.5 to $12.5 million averaged over 8 years in office.
I suspect the numbers are off here.

But glad to hear that you have joined us in wanting to keep costs down. I am as opposed to Trump's spending as I was to Obama's. Welcome!
Cost of Obama's Trip is Dwarfed By George And Laura Bush's Africa Spending Spree
 
Astonished said:
Pretty sure there are links, you can click on them and they take you to the news story. They are bold and when you mouse over there's an underline, that's how you know they are links.

Please let me know if you need any more help with the internet. I'm happy to help you learn how it works.
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Sending me to read what the media says is pointless. It means nothing to me. I'll just assume you have no believable information.
 
Another take on what Trump is costing taxpayers. Some perspective is needed.
What did I learn from all the articles bellyaching (here, here, here, and here) about how much Trump is costing the American taxpayer for his “excessive” travel? Not much. Apparently much of the actual costs for security, travel, and accommodations for presidential trips is not revealed, but estimated or gleaned from sources not directly connected to the events.
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How much money is Trump really spending on his weekend jaunts? [video] - Victory Girls Blog
 
PeteEU said:
I would agree but no. Why?

1) Not only has Trump had a long history on complaining about Obama and his so called vacations.. the amount of them and how much they have cost, but he has stated that he would never do that. Well he is.
2) The GOP has been bitching about Obamas golf games and vacations, while forgetting the king of Vacation.. Bush Jr, but now they have a new king and he is on track to be the most costly president in history when it comes to vacations and travelling.

The right wing hypocrisy is ripe and stinky....

And lets not forget that if his wife stays in New York for 4 years, that will be a half a billion dollars for the US taxpayer.. So suck on that.
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LOL


Colbert's opener last night had the so-called president, lying liar l'll donny's voice complaining about those things about President Obama, while the video showing the so-called president, lying liar l'll donny doing EXACTLY the same thing.
 
Astonished said:
Only because Republicans have been griping for 4 years that Obama spends too much money traveling with his family.

Now here we are with Trump spending $500,000 per day so his wife can live in NYC while he lives in DC. And they fly to Florida every weekend which costs $11 million a month.

Obama's travel cost $12 million a year.

Will the Republicans show blatant hypocrisy by being ok with this?

Of course.
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I think JoeG answered your question didn't he right after your initial post?
 
Casca XV said:
Obamacare alone added over a added almost 2 trillion. and I could go on all day.... Nice try. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...9I3XeH_Nw6HQ6Eiqw&sig2=sq_tCKV_UKxnewx47pdPLg
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No, it did not.... not even remotely. I have no idea where you came up with that lunacy, but it would be fun to read the source of it. So, cite please. Remember, if you can't back up your statement, it is not true.

The affordable care act is actually a modest deficit reducer.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/41423

Try again, there is very little that Obama did to contribute to the debt. Again, it was the tax cuts of Bush, Medicare Part D and two unfunded wars combined with an aging population that now has us paying out more ion social security and medicare than we are taking in, that collectively ran up the debt.

Obama's programs largely consisted of the 2012 tax cuts (the permanent in-statement of the Bush temporary tax cuts) and an $800B (500B in spending/300B in tax cuts) stimulus that contributed to a debt.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...onal-debt-in-7-charts/?utm_term=.27c406f6bfc7
The National Debt: How We Got There - ABC News

..one uses the statement "I could go on and on" when one either produces a long list and needs to cut it off OR has no idea how to answer the question so they use the statement as a bluff. It is obvious that you can't answer the question, or I would have had a list.
 
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Astonished said:
Only because Republicans have been griping for 4 years that Obama spends too much money traveling with his family.

Now here we are with Trump spending $500,000 per day so his wife can live in NYC while he lives in DC. And they fly to Florida every weekend which costs $11 million a month.

Obama's travel cost $12 million a year.

Will the Republicans show blatant hypocrisy by being ok with this?

Of course.
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Here we go another anti Trump hit piece. Trump just saved the country a billion dollars on Air Force 1, another billion dollars on the F-35, has implemented pro growth EO's, saved jobs at Carrier, Ford, GM, and I could go on but you are so full of the leftwing radical ideology that you want to focus on more insignificant charges none of which have been proven and none of which are significant except in your own mine. One of these days you are going to figure it out and how wrong you have been about Obama, about liberalism, and about the foundation upon which this country was built. Carry on with your rants
 
upsideguy said:
No, it did not.... not even remotely. I have no idea where you came up with that lunacy, but it would be fun to read the source of it. So, cite please. Remember, if you can't back up your statement, it is not true.

The affordable care act is actually a modest deficit reducer.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/41423

Try again, there is very little that Obama did to contribute to the debt. Again, it was the tax cuts of Bush, Medicare Part D and two unfunded wars combined with an aging population that now has us paying out more ion social security and medicare than we are taking in, that collectively ran up the debt.

Obama's programs largely consisted of the 2012 tax cuts (the permanent in-statement of the Bush temporary tax cuts) and an $800B (500B in spending/300B in tax cuts) stimulus that contributed to a debt.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...onal-debt-in-7-charts/?utm_term=.27c406f6bfc7
The National Debt: How We Got There - ABC News

..one uses the statement "I could go on and on" when one either produces a long list and needs to cut it off OR has no idea how to answer the question so they use the statement as a bluff. It is obvious that you can't answer the question, or I would have had a list.
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And you claim to run a business? When you keep more of what you earn is that an expense to the Federal Govt? stop blaming tax cuts that actually created economic activity and grew revenue for deficits and stop believing there would have been that economic activity without the tax cuts? What is it about the liberal ideology that creates this kind of loyalty and attitude?

What you don't seem to understand is that you are living a fantasy. You ignore actual results, the war expenses are paid for the fiscal year incurred, Medicare is a self funded program through Payroll taxes just like SS so where do you get off making wild accusations and spouting leftwing opinions as facts?
 
apdst said:
I'm saying your claim isn't true. Of course, you can't prove it.
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I'm not planning on taking the time to do so. Not needed. The dishonestly is predictable.
 
JumpinJack said:
Because money matters. That's what the main purpose of his Presidency is about, supposedly. Huge tax cuts for the wealthy, deregulation, jobs. All so people can get more money. Obamacare...to save the country's money. Possible cuts to Social Security & Medicare...to save money.

But suddenly we have a billion dollars to fly Trump and his family around this year, and staff an entire floor at Trump Tower with Secret Service, eating high on the hog and living the good life in a gilded castle.

We suddenly have deep pockets for a multi-billion $ wall and a big infrastructure package, and increasing the budget of ICE.

The President is having a mental breakdown, and demanding we spend huge sums of money to fly his family around because he doesn't want to live in the tacky White House. And we just do that? That's unreasonable. He is the head of the Executive Branch. He's not King.

This is all part of his mental issue. It needs to stop. This is getting more serious by the day.

Ask Trump. He'll tell you: Everything is about money....for him. As he said, "I love spending other people's money."
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Maybe him not taking a salary will help. why does it cost so much to travel anyway?
 
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