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Trump, GOP lawmakers eye 'illegal' leaks in wake of Flynn resignation

How exactly is he running the Nation like a dictator ?

My point is not that he is a dictator, but he'd like to be. Basically that's just what he's familair with. He was pretty much able to be a dictator as the head of his own family business. Also, if you watched the apprentice, it was apparent how he operated. The first thing a dictator needs to do is establish state control over the media. You can't say he's not trying, but unfortunately for him it's really hard to do. It all started when the media called him out during the campaign when he would say something that was obviously false. He got mad when they did that and did what he always had done in business, attack! In business, he would bully the mostly smaller businesses he dealt with by not paying them, sue them, whatever. Then he gets really mad when he realizes, hey the media aren't backing down, they are fighting back! Of course there are some outlets who are supporting his agenda and they become the good guys. Even some of the people who work for FOX are beginning to get concerned:

"Fox host Shepard Smith slams president, Trump supporters call for his head"

Fox host Shepard Smith slams president, Trump supporters call for his head

Here we have the people clamoring for the news to be censored so that only the state controlled message is getting through! Trump is saying, any negative polls are fake news. All presidents have a love/hate relationship with the press, but the world has not seen this kind of relationship with the press before except in budding dictatorships.

Another thing a dictator can't live with is an independent judicial court. So, same thing, if they cross the dictator we have "so called" judges. Obviously, he would like to have them under his control too.

Congress hasn't been a real problem yet, but they may be in the future. Right now, congress needs his hand to enact legislation, or as Grover Norquest the tax guy said "Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States."

A quote from someone who lived in dictatorships most of her life:

It took Putin a year to take over the Russian media and four years to dismantle its electoral system; the judiciary collapsed unnoticed. The capture of institutions in Turkey has been carried out even faster, by a man once celebrated as the democrat to lead Turkey into the EU. Poland has in less than a year undone half of a quarter century’s accomplishments in building a constitutional democracy.

We are a much stronger democracy than any of these examples, but we are a weaker democracy than we have been in a long time.
 
Well, it's one thing to suspect that you're being tapped, it's another to know for sure....So, eh, what the hell, who care what laws are broken as long as we can nail Trumppppppp!!!! ARGH!!!!!:fueltofir:moody:2funny:

So you have never read a book about spys or seen a single movie about the cold war? You need to get out more. The Russians and their spys are not protected by our Constitution in case you forgot.
 
More speculation more suited for the conspiracy section....



I'd like to see a link for that one.....



I'll judge that for myself when you provide me the link for your claim...



Wow, I was not aware that you were that close to the President....Tell me, when is the last time you two talked?

The Justice Department warned the White House weeks ago that national security adviser Michael Flynn could be vulnerable to blackmail for contacts with Russian officials before President Donald Trump took power, a U.S. official said on Monday.

Justice Department Warned Trump That Flynn Could Be Vulnerable to Russian Blackmail

Flynn has been "onboard" since the beginning of Trump's run, Pence is a newcomer and a member of the Republican "elite". Trump would not have fired him because of Pence, he values loyalty too highly. It is nothing but a convenient excuse.
 
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Different issue. But on that issue the leakers damaged the democratically elected President by providing the American people with information the democratically elected President wanted concealed because it is damaging to him, and not because it is damaging to national security.

Wrong....18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute, and 18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

Pretty clear....
 
So you have never read a book about spys or seen a single movie about the cold war? You need to get out more. The Russians and their spys are not protected by our Constitution in case you forgot.

No, but classified information is, and whenever an American is identified in those calls, then the tap ends.
 
The Justice Department warned the White House weeks ago that national security adviser Michael Flynn could be vulnerable to blackmail for contacts with Russian officials before President Donald Trump took power, a U.S. official said on Monday.

Justice Department Warned Trump That Flynn Could Be Vulnerable to Russian Blackmail

Flynn has been "onboard" since the beginning of Trump's run, Pence is a newcomer and a member of the Republican "elite". Trump would not have fired him because of Pence, he values loyalty too highly.

"A US official said"? What US official? I don't buy it....Another leftist rag printing fake news.
 
"A US official said"? What US official? I don't buy it....Another leftist rag printing fake news.

Whatever....deny reality if you want. That is what a true Trumpster would do.
 
Or it could be traitors in the IC. People who care more about their job or party than the country. Those people should be in federal prisons,not be federal employees.

Or care more about their country than Russia.
 
Whatever....deny reality if you want. That is what a true Trumpster would do.

All I am doing is asking what US official was feeding Newsweek? Do we know, because the noted bias of outlets like Newsweek leads me to dismiss any story from them that is associated with any anonymous sourcing....
 
Or care more about their country than Russia.

Dana, it is NOT a good idea to start down this road of leaking intelligence, because YOU think that it is justified....Surely you see that?
 
Wrong. I didn't say the leaks were legal. I said in this case they exposed facts that did not jeopardize national security but may have jeopardized certain political reputations.

Is that going to be their argument? That they did nothing wrong because JackA of Debate Politics says that they didn't jeopardize national security? Clearly, you can see how silly that sounds right?
 
Is that going to be their argument? That they did nothing wrong because JackA of Debate Politics says that they didn't jeopardize national security? Clearly, you can see how silly that sounds right?

They won't need help from an Internet poster in explaining the obvious to those who need it explained.
 
All I am doing is asking what US official was feeding Newsweek? Do we know, because the noted bias of outlets like Newsweek leads me to dismiss any story from them that is associated with any anonymous sourcing....

There are dozens of sources of this info. It came from the Justice Dept. and was given to Trump before he was inaugurated. He has not denied it.
 
Is that going to be their argument? That they did nothing wrong because JackA of Debate Politics says that they didn't jeopardize national security? Clearly, you can see how silly that sounds right?

Actually NOT leaking it would have jeopardized national security. Trump was ignoring the notice from the Justice Dept. and by not firing Flynn and revoking his security clearance he was risking Flynn sharing secrets with the Russians. That is why it was leaked. There are still some in Govt. that think national security is paramount. Trump is not one of them. It is obvious that he valued Flynn more and had to be forced to oust him.
 
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