Trump’s national security actions ‘will not be questioned’

Astonished said:

No, that's not in my link at all. That's a false and dishonest post.

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It is totally honest, you are the one who posted 341 and I countered with the Ablow link including the paragraph in that link to show that is you who is being dishonest in believing what you are told

Yes, America will no longer be questioned. And, thanks to Trump, here is what America looks like in the eyes of the world, as illustrated in the America float at a parade in Italy:



NOTE: I knew I saw Donald Trump's face from someplace. It was on the cover of a King Crimson album. LOL.

danarhea said:

Yes, America will no longer be questioned. And, thanks to Trump, here is what America looks like in the eyes of the world, as illustrated in the America float at a parade in Italy:



NOTE: I knew I saw Donald Trump's face from someplace. It was on the cover of a King Crimson album. LOL.

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You seem to worry a lot about what the world thinks, a world made up of dictators, massive poverty, corruption, and evil. are those countries truly credible to you?

Cardinal said:

Do you support removing judicial review, media criticism and any legislative oversight from all Presidential executive orders?

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The judge exceeded his authority

upsideguy said:

The wide receiver carries the ball and scores touchdowns. The referee does not catch the ball nor score a touchdown. The referee merely tells us when the wide receiver stepped out of bounds or interfered with defender. The court merely said that Trump stepped out of bounds when doing his job. That is the court's job.

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Unfortunately, in this case, the Court overturned the play because they argue that the Coach should have told them to run the ball; based on the testimony of the Cheerleaders, who argued they had standing because they were impacted by whether or not the team scored. It's not the Court's job to decide what play to run - that's the Executives' decision. It IS in the court's decision to decide who has standing - and while I think they went kinda loopy on their decision, that is their decision to make.

danarhea said:

Yes, America will no longer be questioned. And, thanks to Trump, here is what America looks like in the eyes of the world, as illustrated in the America float at a parade in Italy:

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:shrug: I saw a lot worse during the Bush Administration, and a lot worse (for our nation) during the Obama administration. I'm not really worried what a bunch of Italians think about my country's domestic political decisions, even if (in this particular case) I heartily disagreed with the decision made.

Redress said:

You link to the decision, and clearly have not actually read it. They actually state what they had to consider

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Yes. You'll note I cited them doing so, and pointed out the problems with their argument.

To rule on the Government’s motion, we must consider
several factors, including whether the Government has
shown that it is likely to succeed on the merits of its appeal,
the degree of hardship caused by a stay or its denial, and the
public interest in granting or denying a stay.

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For example: No they don't. It is not in their scope of authority to determine that - the law explicitly gives that power, in this case, to the President. You may argue that it's a stupid law, or that it's poorly written (and I think you would have a leg to stand on there), but it's the law, nonetheless.

If we don't want stupid, immoral people to wield enormous power with little effective oversight in political office, then we shouldn't grant enormous power with little effective oversight to that position, regardless of how wonderful we think the current occupant is.

cpwill said:

Yes. You'll note I cited them doing so, and pointed out the problems with their argument.



For example: No they don't. It is not in their scope of authority to determine that - the law explicitly gives that power, in this case, to the President. You may argue that it's a stupid law, or that it's poorly written (and I think you would have a leg to stand on there), but it's the law, nonetheless.

If we don't want stupid, immoral people to wield enormous power with little effective oversight in political office, then we shouldn't grant enormous power with little effective oversight to that position, regardless of how wonderful we think the current occupant is.

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The federal courts stayed a part of the EO pending Constitutional issues, specifically, the Fifth Amendment protections and the 14th Amendment Due Process of Law Clause to include equal protection of the law.

The authorizing law is good, the EO was a disaster.

The courts acted only on the green card holders, i.e., legal residents of the United States. The larger part of the EO was left intact. However, the disastrous impact of the EO on the legal residents was so focused and so great, it dominated the disposition of the EO. In other words Trump and Bannon junked their EO and are trying again to produce something that won't put innocent people in detention.

Given the record of the first 30 dayze Trump-Bannon needs a reset. Let's just hope they press the right red button.