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Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ politic

Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

Exactly the first sentence.

So instead of having to turn back the plan is not to go at all

Nice fail.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

AFAIK it's not about protests but rather being stopped at the boarder crossing.

It's about, another idiotic, knee jerk reaction.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

It's about, another idiotic, knee jerk reaction.

By who ?
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

That is a bizarre response when all of the news stories are telling us that cross border travel has changed as a direct result of Trump's executive order but then I read those 'librul' Mainstream Media outlets and we all know they do nothing but lie. :roll:

U.S. border agents turned away Canadians hoping to come to the Women’s March

It was sarcasm directed at the hyper-overreacting dim-bulbs who are afraid of everything conservative, but will ignore the problems coming out of the liberal end of things. I would seriously think that there is a greater chance of problem arising from a liberal populated anti-Israel protest at a Holocaust museum than from some kind of anti-Canada immigration policy.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

AFAIK it's not about protests but rather being stopped at the boarder crossing.

It's a stupid reaction. There's more of a chance of having a problem due to liberal protests than to immigration policy.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

It's a stupid reaction. There's more of a chance of having a problem due to liberal protests than to immigration policy.

I disagree.
Besides Farmington Hills, Mich. is a very safe higher income area.
The immigration issue can change in a matter of minutes under the Trump administration.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

I disagree.
Besides Farmington Hills, Mich. is a very safe higher income area.
The immigration issue can change in a matter of minutes under the Trump administration.

..and it could have changed in a matter of minutes under the Obama admin. as well, yet no one was doing this kind of stupid crap then. This crap is 100% pure abuse of a minor official's power in a partisan matter.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

Way to make friends or to keep them

Good advice perhaps. Windsor, Ontario is just a tunnel or bridge away from Detroit. I wouldn't recommend Americans visit Detroit either. There are far better destinations. Personally, I wouldn't live in California because of bad politics. So it all makes sense to me.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

..and it could have changed in a matter of minutes under the Obama admin. as well, yet no one was doing this kind of stupid crap then. This crap is 100% pure abuse of a minor official's power in a partisan matter.

We didn't have green card holders stopped at airports and boarders and told they were not allowed into the US under the Obama administration. That happened just recently during the Trump administration.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

Good advice perhaps. Windsor, Ontario is just a tunnel or bridge away from Detroit. I wouldn't recommend Americans visit Detroit either. There are far better destinations. Personally, I wouldn't live in California because of bad politics. So it all makes sense to me.

They were not going to visit Detroit. They were going to go on a field trip to the Holocaust Memomorail Center in Farmington Hills, Michigan which is located about 20 miles north of Detroit which is in Oakland County. By the way ...Oakland County is the richest County in Michigan and one of the richest countys in the nation.
 
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We didn't have green card holders stopped at airports and boarders and told they were not allowed into the US under the Obama administration. That happened just recently during the Trump administration.

But none from Canada. Also the comment I responding to was about the POSSIBILITY of border crossing problems ("The immigration issue can change in a matter of minutes under the Trump administration."), something that had the EXACT same potential to happen during the Obama admin. All this is is a minor public official using the kids he's responsible for as a tool to make a political statement. It's a reprehensible act that ALL of us should be denouncing. But since you happen to agree with the end result he wants, you'll excuse the immoral, unethical and stupid abuse of his authority. On another thread you were all concerned about kid's education - well here's a guy using the education of kids he's responsible for to make a purely political statement. No one with two connected brain cells would ever think that there's any real possibility of a border issue for these kids, so the only conclusion I can see is that he's making political statement and taking this trip away form the kids as a way to make it.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

But none from Canada. Also the comment I responding to was about the POSSIBILITY of border crossing problems ("The immigration issue can change in a matter of minutes under the Trump administration."), something that had the EXACT same potential to happen during the Obama admin. All this is is a minor public official using the kids he's responsible for as a tool to make a political statement. It's a reprehensible act that ALL of us should be denouncing. But since you happen to agree with the end result he wants, you'll excuse the immoral, unethical and stupid abuse of his authority. On another thread you were all concerned about kid's education - well here's a guy using the education of kids he's responsible for to make a purely political statement. No one with two connected brain cells would ever think that there's any real possibility of a border issue for these kids, so the only conclusion I can see is that he's making political statement and taking this trip away form the kids as a way to make it.

According to the article the decision was not made by a minor public official ...it was made by the school board.


The Windsor, Ont. public school board is cancelling all student field trips to the United States
because the current American political climate is considered too “unsafe” and unpredictable to permit cross-border travel.

Most school boards are comprised of several people who were elected by the citizens in the school district.

Also they are just temporarily putting a stop to the field trips during the month of February this year.

From the article in the OP


A “handful” of trips have already been nixed, with no school travel to America being allowed for the month of February. At the end of the month, the situation will be re-evaluated and decisions made on an individual basis, said Howitt.
 
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Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

But none from Canada. Also the comment I responding to was about the POSSIBILITY of border crossing problems ("The immigration issue can change in a matter of minutes under the Trump administration."), something that had the EXACT same potential to happen during the Obama admin. All this is is a minor public official using the kids he's responsible for as a tool to make a political statement. It's a reprehensible act that ALL of us should be denouncing. But since you happen to agree with the end result he wants, you'll excuse the immoral, unethical and stupid abuse of his authority. On another thread you were all concerned about kid's education - well here's a guy using the education of kids he's responsible for to make a purely political statement. No one with two connected brain cells would ever think that there's any real possibility of a border issue for these kids, so the only conclusion I can see is that he's making political statement and taking this trip away form the kids as a way to make it.


You are really are refusing to accept reality seemingly because doing so would cause cognitive dissonance in regards to tightly held beliefs.

The facts:
The school district had made a call to ICE in regards to what might happen when Canadian school kids crossed the border to visit the Holocaust Museum, which the school district had done in the past without problems. The response from ICE was that no kids who were born in any one of the seven nations on Trump's list would be allowed into the United States. Owing to the number of students from those nations, and to avoid creating a group that might then be seen by other kids as less than Canadian, the district - not an individual - decided to cancel all trips by the schools of the district into the US.

Yours is the "purely political statement", not the cancellation of the school trip. No one with "two connected brain cells" who had taken the time to read the linked articles would have posted the nonsense I read here.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

According to the article the decision was not made by a minor public official ...it was made by the school board.



Most school boards are comprised of several people who were elected by the citizens in the school district.

Also they are just temporarily putting a stop to the field trips during the month of February this year.

From the article in the OP

Sorry "minor public officials" and the rest of my post still stands just as solid.
 
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I mean i've run into problems just getting into Canada as an American, because the border agents thought a car of 19 year olds (going to drink) was suspicious. That's not exactly a national security threat as Trump is claiming. His hysteria puts border agents on alert, so i'm pretty certain any kids from this international school who look brown are going to get stopped. Border agents have a ton of leeway. I wouldn't make the effort to enter this country period right now unless i'm white. Which is exactly what the deplorables want
I will not describe all Trump supporters as the bolded, but you are right: Some are, and this is exactly what they want.

And it is deplorable. And it is un-American. And it sucks I have to explain all this crazy crap to my Canuck relatives, after spending years explaining our screwed-up healthcare, and even more years explain Republican 'values' to them.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

Sorry "minor public officials" and the rest of my post still stands just as solid.

NO, your post is not "solid". Your words in post #62: "No one with two connected brain cells would ever think that there's any real possibility of a border issue for these kids" The school district was told by ICE that students born in any of the seven nations on Trump's list would not be allowed into the US - I would think that any rational person would see that as a "border issue"
 
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My son grew up in a very multicultural place. He and a group of friends set off to Seattle to a concert a few years ago and had big trouble at the border. One of them was a Lebanese citizen but was born in Abu Dhabi, while his father worked there. The border guards couldn't seem to get it that in some Muslim societies you get your nationality from your father, not from the country you were born in. After an hour that guy was refused entry so they all came back home.
Maybe the concern is that they don't want a teacher to have to deal with that kind of complication.
I also think were concerned about boarder crossing issues.
I suspect that is exactly the concern.
 
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She was a bland centrist who would never have attempted anything like this, and the democrats are known as the 'wide net' party, so widespread travel bans targeting a specific minority is not on their agenda

LOL- well I guess compared to Bernie Sanders she would be considered a centrist.

That doddering old fool did other liberals Democrats a huge favor. They can call themselves 'centrists'.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

Good. Once we get that U.S./Canada wall finished, which Canada will be paying for by the way, they won't be coming over for any trips; field or otherwise.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

LOL- well I guess compared to Bernie Sanders she would be considered a centrist.

That doddering old fool did other liberals Democrats a huge favor. They can call themselves 'centrists'.

She voted to fund the iraq war and for the "patriot" act. That's not remotely liberal. That's cowardly centrism, even conservatism. Her top fundraisers are bankers and she tells them she needs a public and private position for everything. Again, not liberalism. It's not popular enough yet in this country to win elections by 3 million votes
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

She voted to fund the iraq war and for the "patriot" act. That's not remotely liberal. That's cowardly centrism, even conservatism. Her top fundraisers are bankers and she tells them she needs a public and private position for everything. Again, not liberalism. It's not popular enough yet in this country to win elections by 3 million votes

Why wouldn't it be liberal to vote for bringing democracy to another country? That used to be considered liberal until a republican did it.
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

Why wouldn't it be liberal to vote for bringing democracy to another country? That used to be considered liberal until a republican did it.

something they don't even prioritize over there, something we don't have here, and all it brought them was death and destruction - over 100,000 dead last i checked. Even Trump used this against her as even republicans consider it an utter failure now
 
Re: Windsor public school board forbids student trips to U.S. because of ‘unsafe’ pol

Good. Once we get that U.S./Canada wall finished, which Canada will be paying for by the way, they won't be coming over for any trips; field or otherwise.

lol i was thinking how their idol (Reagan) commanded "Tear down this wall!" and yet they put walls right back up. Probably they'll put up another wall in Berlin, and keep insisting that Russia doesn't have Trump in its back pocket
 
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