Shia LaBeouf's anti-Trump exhibit shut down

NonoBadDog said:

I have to raise the BS flag.

Here is their twitter and Facebook sites.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/antifascist?src=hash
https://twitter.com/berkeleyantifa/status/806712841268916225
https://www.facebook.com/berkeleyantifa/

Here is an article from an extreme alt left site justifying and praising Antifa for their involvement at Berkley.
In Support of the Anti-Milo Berkeley Antifa Action



Random news about Antifa at Berkley.
https://itsgoingdown.org/berkeley-clashes-break-alt-right-milo/
http://heatst.com/politics/berkeley...ulted-by-black-masked-anti-fascist-activists/

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They're not leftists then. They're "anti fascists". Which to me just means anti Trump/Pence/Bannon

The Weather Underground were a radical left terrorist organization that bombed both the Capitol and the Pentagon in the 70s. The Weather Underground's objective was to overthrow the American government and replace it with a Marxist/Leninist model. That's far left. I don't see far left in these ANTIFA wannabe freedom fighters.

If ANTIFA said We want to seize the means of production for the proletariat.. then I see your point. But, they're just rioting and being jack****

Winston said:

They're not leftists then. They're "anti fascists". Which to me just means anti Trump/Pence/Bannon

The Weather Underground were a radical left terrorist organization that bombed both the Capitol and the Pentagon in the 70s. The Weather Underground's objective was to overthrow the American government and replace it with Marxist/Leninist model. That's far left. I don't see far left in these ANTIFA wannabe freedom fighters.

If ANTIFA said We want to seize the means of production for the proletariat.. then I see your point. But, they're just rioting and being jack****

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Hey, they say they are leftists. Who are you to tell them they aren't? They state that they are leftists. I see no reason not to believe them. They are leftists, like it or not. They are no better than the KKK or any alt right group that you try so hard to tag the right with. You guys have your assclowns just like we do. Not all leftists are violent rioters but all violent rioters are leftists. We have gone full circle.

NonoBadDog said:

Hey, they say they are leftists. Who are you to tell them they aren't? They state that they are leftists. I see no reason not to believe them. They are leftists, like it or not.

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I'm saying they're weak sauce leftists. I bet they couldn't tell you the difference between a Trotskyite and a Stalinist.

NonoBadDog said:

Hey, they say they are leftists. Who are you to tell them they aren't? They state that they are leftists. I see no reason not to believe them. They are leftists, like it or not. They are no better than the KKK or any alt right group that you try so hard to tag the right with. You guys have your assclowns just like we do. Not all leftists are violent rioters but all violent rioters are leftists. We have gone full circle.

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I still disagree that they are leftists. They have to make their political objectives clearer. Overthrow the government. Kill the bourgeoisie. Government of the Proletariat. Seize the means of production. Bomb some government buildings. You know commie s***. I reject the premise that they are leftists. All violent protestors do not want a government of the proletariat.

If you say all violent protestors are anarchists.. I'd be more inclined to agree with you.

NonoBadDog said:

Hey, they say they are leftists. Who are you to tell them they aren't? They state that they are leftists. I see no reason not to believe them. They are leftists, like it or not. They are no better than the KKK or any alt right group that you try so hard to tag the right with. You guys have your assclowns just like we do. Not all leftists are violent rioters but all violent rioters are leftists. We have gone full circle.

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But, I do see the point you're making that both sides have extreme groups who give a bad name to the rational ones.

Winston said:

Shia LaBeouf's anti-Trump exhibit shut down over violence - BBC News






Neo Nazi's coming to defend Trump's honor. But, Trump's so NOT a xenophobic demagogue.

“When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system’s game. The establishment will irritate you – pull your beard, flick your face – to make you fight. Because once they’ve got you violent, then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don’t know how to handle is non-violence and humor.” - John Lennon

Thoughts? Do you support the artistic message? Do you support the decision to shut down the exhibit for public safety? I support the museum's decision to shut down the exhibit. They don't want white nationalists squaring off against.. I'll use the term globalist urbanites for lack of a better term. We're gonna need some cage matches in the future to quell these flames. I've seen people on social media repeatedly threaten to "throw hands".

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To be honest with you, Mr. LeBeouf has been displaying some seriously alarming behavior for some time now. This is just the latest in a long line of what I see as cries for help. And I hope he gets it too. Since this would be yet another protest that turned to violence, like so many lately? No I don't support it and am glad those participating in violet behavior were shut down. I'd hope arrested charged and forced to pay for their crimes too.

Memphis said:

To be honest with you, Mr. LeBeouf has been displaying some seriously alarming behavior for some time now. This is just the latest in a long line of what I see as cries for help. And I hope he gets it too. Since this would be yet another protest that turned to violence, like so many lately? No I don't support it and am glad those participating in violet behavior were shut down. I'd hope arrested charged and forced to pay for their crimes too.

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Yeah, I can see a pattern of abuse from LeBeouf. I think he's a drunk. He's had some arrests for disorderly. I just found the story kind of interesting. And I like the concept of art when it's a piece that interacts with society.

Winston said:

Yeah, I can see a pattern of abuse from LeBeouf. I think he's a drunk. He's had some drunk & disorderly's. I just found the story kind of interesting. And I like the concept of art when it's a piece that interacts with society.

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I suspect that his drug and alcohol use are only symptoms of whatever problem he is dealing with. I've got a hunch there are some strong mental health issues he has to confront, based on some of the things that have occurred. Let's hope the talented young man makes his way through his difficulties. If I could talk to him now I'd tell him I don't hold that whole jungle vine swinging scene from that last horrid Indiana Jones movie against him. Levity aside, he is a gifted actor. I recently watched Nymphomaniac and he was particularly good in that role.

I find the story interesting to. But where I imagine we differ is that I don't see what he was doing as art. I know he calls it that, but he's called a lot of what he has been doing art. And used the subject of art as an excuse for some pretty reprehensible behavior. I hope he gets the help he so obviously needs.

**** Shia LeBeouf. But don't think this is going to keep me from watching Transformers.

I like him better when he doesn't speak.

And he takes his shirt off.

Winston said:

I would b**** about it on DP. Haha . What if your company required you travel to Canada, but you were discriminated against and denied entry because U.S. is Christian majority? What if you had family in Canada who you are now estranged from because of a ban?


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I would be unhappy about all those what ifs but the country is within their rights as a sovereign nation to be selective about who is on their visitors list. If i was on that list because my fellow countrymen were suspected of terrorist activity, i like to think that i would be mature enough to understand that its not about me, its about them. I just happened to of gotten lumped in with them. My anger would be directed at them not the country defending itself.

Honestly if those people cant respect that we are protecting ourselves from people who have openly declared war on us and have been perpetrating heinous crimes on our citizens then i dont want to help them either.

Its unfortunate we can not let people travel in and out of here freely but the fact is many of them have abused that privilege. Im not just talking about terrorists either many of them come here and overstay their visas. Just because you like it here better than where you came from does not entitle you to stay without permission. We have rules and we expect our guests to respect them and if they cant we should recind our invitation to them.

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He will not divide us but Shia LaBeouf will.

Blue_State said:

He will not divide us but Shia LaBeouf will.

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No he wont. I can honestly say that no matter what your politics are, we can all agree that Shia LaBeouf is a terrible actor. He has basically ruined two beloved movie franchises: Indiana Jones and Wall Street.