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Poll: 'Bowling Green massacre’ justifies executive order

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Paperview said:
^ Heaping pile of dung.
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I take it you realized how stupid you look now posting 5 sources which proved my point.

Another one...well played...
 
VanceMack said:
Yes INDEED. We SHOULD thank him. Hell...that was some pretty nasty **** those two had planned. You might want to read the FBI report. Turns out...its RESPONSIBLE to halt refugee processing when it is discovered that you have a problem.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4554555/director-comey-testimony-homeland-security

Comey...Johnson...numerous Obama admin officials have ALL stated we CANNOT properly vet Syrian refugees. We can spend 1, 2, 3, 5 years...as long as we want...and we still cant properly vet them because A-there are no state records to vet them against and b-ISIS controls access to passports, the creation of official birth documents, etc. We KNOW we cant adequately vet them. So...let them in anyway? That seems rather a stupid position to take. Wouldnt you agree?
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We let a woman in from Pakistan who came through Saudi Arabia in 2014 and 14 months ago took some guns and her husband and shot up his workplace. Why isn't Pakistan on his list, or Saudi Arabia? The media did report on that incident. Maybe Kelllyanne and her boss missed it.
 
VanceMack said:
It cant touch how stupid his previous post made him look.
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His posts didn't make him look stupid.

Can you please post Obama's Executive Order that backs up the claim that he implemented a 6 month ban on Iraqi citizens entering the United States?
 
tres borrachos said:
We let a woman in from Pakistan who came through Saudi Arabia in 2014 and 14 months ago took some guns and her husband and shot up his workplace. Why isn't Pakistan on his list, or Saudi Arabia? The media did report on that incident. Maybe Kelllyanne and her boss missed it.
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We DID, didnt we. GREAT point. So...maybe that vetting process needs a better look.

Right?
 
tres borrachos said:
His posts didn't make him look stupid.

Can you please post Obama's Executive Order that backs up the claim that he implemented a 6 month ban on Iraqi citizens entering the United States?
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Who made that claim?
 
VanceMack said:
We DID, didnt we. GREAT point. So...maybe that vetting process needs a better look.

Right?
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The vetting process for Iraqis needs a better look because we let a Pakistani-born woman into this country from Saudi Arabia and she killed Americans?
 
VanceMack said:
Who made that claim?
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You made the claim that Obama issued a 6 month ban. Surely this is easy to prove. A link? Document? EO? Congressional proclamation? SCTUS ruling? Something other than fake news from ABC that doesn't mention a ban.
 
tres borrachos said:
The vetting process for Iraqis needs a better look because we let a Pakistani-born woman into this country from Saudi Arabia and she killed Americans?
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Gosh...since it happened in 2014 you woulda thunk that Obama would have included them on their top 7 terrorist threat nations...wouldnt you? I suppose you just think Obama was a piece of **** retard that had no concern about national security. And Saudi Arabia. PRICELESS. You are still on about terrorists entering the country in NINETEEN NINETY FIVE under the Clinton administration when there was NO advanced vetting procedures and the National Security agencies didnt even talk among themselves...let alone to each other.

Priceless.

:lamo
 
Maybe when Conway talked about the Bowling Green Massacre she was actually referring to Ivanka Trump not being able to get her line of apparel into the stores there?
 
tres borrachos said:
You made the claim that Obama issued a 6 month ban. Surely this is easy to prove. A link? Document? EO? Congressional proclamation? SCTUS ruling? Something other than fake news from ABC that doesn't mention a ban.
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No...I did not. I stated quite clearly and concisely that Obama implemented a 6 month ban on Iraqi refugees.

Did you not READ what you are actually responding to or are you just so anxious to regurgitate talking points that you missed that?

Oh...and tres...did you SUPPORT Obama's ban following the BG terrorist arrests? I mean..after all...no one actually DIED. Obama issued an EO based on a mere THREAT. Dont you just HATE that?
 
VanceMack said:
Gosh...since it happened in 2014 you woulda thunk that Obama would have included them on their top 7 terrorist threat nations...wouldnt you? I suppose you just think Obama was a piece of **** retard that had no concern about national security. And Saudi Arabia. PRICELESS. You are still on about terrorists entering the country in NINETEEN NINETY FIVE under the Clinton administration when there was NO advanced vetting procedures and the National Security agencies didnt even talk among themselves...let alone to each other.

Priceless.

:lamo
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There's that smiley again. I'm glad the deaths of people in San Bernardino are so amusing to you. Me, not so much.

Can you please post the Obama ban order evidence? I keep asking and I haven't seen it yet. There has to be something out there to back up your claim. I can show you Trump's ban order quite easily.
 
VanceMack said:
No...I did not. I stated quite clearly and concisely that Obama implemented a 6 month ban on Iraqi refugees.

Did you not READ what you are actually responding to or are you just so anxious to regurgitate talking points that you missed that?
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I never saw the Obama 6 month ban order. Can you please post a link to it so we can all see it?
 
tres borrachos said:
I never saw the Obama 6 month ban order. Can you please post a link to it so we can all see it?
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Wait. Wait. Did you LIE or were you just mistaken? Are you corrupt? Or did you just make a misstatement?
 
VanceMack said:
Wait. Wait. Did you LIE or were you just mistaken? Are you corrupt? Or did you just make a misstatement?
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Can you please post a link to the Obama ban order you keep talking about? I never saw it. You must have seen it. It won't be hard to link it.
 
tres borrachos said:
I never saw the Obama 6 month ban order. Can you please post a link to it so we can all see it?
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Don't hold your breath. I asked the same question and he gave me an ABC article to look at and then he sits chortling away like he has some secret knowledge. He can't prove it so attacks instead.
 
tres borrachos said:
There's that smiley again. I'm glad the deaths of people in San Bernardino are so amusing to you. Me, not so much.

Can you please post the Obama ban order evidence? I keep asking and I haven't seen it yet. There has to be something out there to back up your claim. I can show you Trump's ban order quite easily.
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Ive posted an article citing it...can you refute it? Hell...the other guy posted like FIVE different sources that stated the same thing. Read them...and if you disagree...offer some sort of countering source. Just...you know...try to make sure YOUR sources dont prove my point like his did.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Don't hold your breath. I asked the same question and he gave me an ABC article to look at and then he sits chortling away like he has some secret knowledge. He can't prove it so attacks instead.
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There have to date been now 6 sources presented on this site affirming the same thing. You want the EO? Do a little research> You want to counter the point? Offer some sort of evidence that refutes it. Otherwise quit whining.
 
VanceMack said:
Ive posted an article citing it...can you refute it? Hell...the other guy posted like FIVE different sources that stated the same thing. Read them...and if you disagree...offer some sort of countering source. Just...you know...try to make sure YOUR sources dont prove my point like his did.
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The article from ABC, which you all claim is nothing but fake news, doesn't show Obama's ban order. In fact it doesn't reference a "ban". A "ban" has to be ordered. Surely you understand this.

Do you need me to link Donald J. Trump's ban order to help you figure out how to post links of evidence of claims on this board?
 
tres borrachos said:
Can you please post a link to the Obama ban order you keep talking about? I never saw it. You must have seen it. It won't be hard to link it.
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Did you LIE about what I stated/ Or did you just make a misstatement?

See how cute you are avoiding your little faux pas?
 
tres borrachos said:
The article from ABC, which you all claim is nothing but fake news, doesn't show Obama's ban order. In fact it doesn't reference a "ban". A "ban" has to be ordered. Surely you understand this.

Do you need me to link Donald J. Trump's ban order to help you figure out how to post links of evidence of claims on this board?
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Thwere have been 6 sources...1 by me and 5 by ppv that supported the fact that there was indeed a refugee ban implemented solely based on a threat. And I KNOW how much you HATE that). So stop lying about what I stated (or...ummm...maybe stop 'misstating' what I said and refute the sources. Or dont.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Don't hold your breath. I asked the same question and he gave me an ABC article to look at and then he sits chortling away like he has some secret knowledge. He can't prove it so attacks instead.
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ABC, those nasty media people who only produce fake news. Hmph, how convenient that they're truth tellers when it's convenient.

He can't produce an Obama ban order because there never was one. But don't argue with a Trump devotee. They follow their marching orders and can't focus beyond what Trump allows them to focus on.
 
VanceMack said:
Thwere have been 6 sources...1 by me and 5 by ppv that supported the fact that there was indeed a refugee ban implemented solely based on a threat. And I KNOW how much you HATE that). So stop lying about what I stated (or...ummm...maybe stop 'misstating' what I said and refute the sources. Or dont.
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Yes, you can't produce any evidence of a ban being issued by President Obama, because there never was one. You instead link articles to the fake news purveyors at ABC that don't even mention a ban. We all know that already, Vance.
 
VanceMack said:
There have to date been now 6 sources presented on this site affirming the same thing. You want the EO? Do a little research> You want to counter the point? Offer some sort of evidence that refutes it. Otherwise quit whining.
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VanceMack said:
Ive posted an article citing it...can you refute it?
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In justifying his controversial executive order halting travelers from seven majority-Muslim countries, President Trump claimed that President Barack Obama did the same thing in 2011. But the comparison is a bit*facile.
Here’s what happened in 2011.
The Facts
The only news report that we could find that referred to a six-month ban was a 2013 ABC News article that included this line: “As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News — even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ilar-to-obama-in-2011/?utm_term=.a6a0856636b6
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So, you have one source, found nowhere else. Chortle away, you have however succeeded in stopping the discussion of the Bowling Green massacre which was your intention when you joined the thread.

You want to prove your integrity and honesty - post another genuine link to this so called ban apart from ONE ABC article.
 
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