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Republicans vote to suspend committee rules, advance Mnuchin, Price nominations

Anthony60 said:
It is getting worse if we are down to filibustering SC nominees, no matter their qualification.
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Well it certainly isn't trending in a positive direction.
 
American said:
You also failed to show where I said the Constitution says such a thing. I'm waiting.
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Oh, ok. So you're point is that it's fine to hold up a SC nominee, as long as it's only 1?

All in all, you seem to be perfectly smitten with the idea that it's not a big deal to hold up SC nominees. So I don't know why you'd think this is any different.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
The year they wouldn't even bring Garland up for a vote.

Stop whining. Expect the same treatment now.
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But Sirius - that was the last Congress - not this one. Take the advice from FROZEN .......Let it go let it go let it go.

This is what librultarditescommiepinkoperverts constantly do and the rest of the nation is not going to take it anymore. ;):roll:
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
The year they wouldn't even bring Garland up for a vote.

Stop whining. Expect the same treatment now.
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I'm not whining. We're still winning, even after the election because Democrats continue to act stupidly. You're forgetting that your idiotic strategies don't work on Trump. He beat your for 18 months straight, and is still on a roll.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Oh, ok. So you're point is that it's fine to hold up a SC nominee, as long as it's only 1?

All in all, you seem to be perfectly smitten with the idea that it's not a big deal to hold up SC nominees. So I don't know why you'd think this is any different.
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No you want it to look like the Senate wouldn't vote on Obama nominees, which is a flatout lie. He put two justices on the court. You think every president got that?
 
Napoleon said:
1) What is the point of having any rules at all if they can be "suspended" on a whim?

2) This precedent will come back to bite the GOP when the Dems eventually retake Congress.
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1)What is the point of a committee if the Democrats never show up so anything can be voted on?
2) If the Republican committee members don't show up to do their job like adults, then the Democrats can do exactly what they did. I am ok with that, under the exact same circumstances.
 
Erod said:
Why should the GOP tolerate a party that has zero interest in working together, and currently has only 16 governorships, 28 percent of state legislative offices, and has lost the House, Senate, and Presidency?

It's like the Patriots gameplanning for the Browns.
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Then why were y'all bitching when Obama and the Dems do it? Either it's OK, and it's just spoils of war get over it, or there is a fundamental issue that is damaging by behaving in this manner. If it's the latter, we need to fix it.

This is why we can't have anything nice, everything has to be just to spite the other side. But we're all in the same boat, it's one Republic. Both sides are drilling holes in the bottom and then screaming about the holes the other side is drilling.
 
Erod said:
If you don't show up, why should anyone even tolerate you.

Dems are acting like petulant brats.
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(Democrats run away from vote)

Dems: "Muwaahahahaha!! Trying passing a nominee without a quorum!"

Republicans: "Hmmm... guess we don't need a quorum to change quorum rules..."

Dems: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
 
haymarket said:
This is what authoritarians do when they do not get their way .... they change the rules to benefit themselves.
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No, its how adults deal with children. The dems refused to show up for the hearings. Apparently they have better things to do or aren't interested. So the adults in the room moved forward. And please, lets not pretend that if the parties were reversed you wouldn't be applauding the action. You only dislike authoritarian moves when its not your side doing them.
 
American said:
No you want it to look like the Senate wouldn't vote on Obama nominees, which is a flatout lie. He put two justices on the court. You think every president got that?
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Nope, that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm just twisting you in circles on whether it's ok or not ok to block SC nominees. And you're twisting in the wind. "But he already got 2! Well I never said he's not allowed 3! No, it's not ok to hold up a nominee! But he already had 2, so it was ok!"

Lol, I think I've gotten plenty from you here. You have the last word to explain why this totally isn't just political hackery on your part.
 
Ikari said:
Well it certainly isn't trending in a positive direction.
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california liberals appear to be serious about defying the federal government and becoming a santuary state

other libs fantasize about impeaching trump and driving him out of office short if 4 yesrs

based on that I dont think we sill see much cooperation or peace in our time
 
Mac77 said:
california liberals appear to be serious about defying the federal government and becoming a santuary state
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They ain't gonna do ****. They're going to bitch and moan and in the end, file in line.

Mac77 said:
other libs fantasize about impeaching trump and driving him out of office short if 4 yesrs
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The best they can hope for is to put up a competent and quality candidate in 4 years time that can better compete against Trump.

Mac77 said:
based on that I dont think we sill see much cooperation or peace in our time
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It didn't start there. But there won't be much cooperation or peace in our time. It's not because ONLY the left is engaged in this, it's that BOTH left and right are running this to its breaking point.
 
roughdraft274 said:
No. No you're not.
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Sure I am.
as for this

"I call it hardball."

No...its not 'hardball'. Its "Wah! We're going to take our ball and go home!" ummmm...children? Its not your ball. "Well....then...we're just going to go home!"

 
Erod said:
Republicans vote to suspend committee rules, advance Mnuchin, Price nominations - CNNPolitics.com



This is what you get, Dems, for acting like petulant children for so long.

You insisted on filibustering Bush's Supreme Court nominee, which was highly unusual. You insisted on circumventing Congress by passing massive legislation with Obama's executive orders. You let the likes of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama steer you into the abyss.

So what goes around, comes around.

Today, the GOP found ways around process, too. You wouldn't show up, so they changed committee rules to get Mnuchin and Price into their cabinet positions.

If necessary, the same will be done for the Supreme Court nominee, Sessions, and everyone else needed.

I hope the GOP can get a supermajority in two years so a more fool-proof system can be put in place to do these things in a more stately manner.
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ROFL! Seriously? Your justification is "he done it first!" Where will you be when McConnell uses the nuclear option to get Trump's SCOTUS pick through. Democrats stopped at the Supreme Court, but will you go down that road? What will await you there? More playground arguments probably.
 
haymarket said:
This is what authoritarians do when they do not get their way .... they change the rules to benefit themselves.
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Yep, that's exactly what Obama, Reid, and Pelosi did. And now, the chickens have come home to roost, as Obama's favorite "theologian" says.
 
Fletch said:
No, its how adults deal with children. The dems refused to show up for the hearings. Apparently they have better things to do or aren't interested. So the adults in the room moved forward. And please, lets not pretend that if the parties were reversed you wouldn't be applauding the action. You only dislike authoritarian moves when its not your side doing them.
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The rules were put in place for a reason. Changing them in mid stream is a sign of a bully who does not get his way so he uses his power to change the rules to benefit himself.
 
Erod said:
Yep, that's exactly what Obama, Reid, and Pelosi did. And now, the chickens have come home to roost, as Obama's favorite "theologian" says.
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I thought it was the Republicans who control Congress and made this rule change via suspension to send those nominations to the floor? Or that is what this article in the OP said.

Republicans suspend committee rules, advance Mnuchin, Price nominations - CNNPolitics.com

Under committee rules, it is required that at least one Democrat be present for the panel to vote to send a nominee to the Senate floor. On Tuesday, not a single Democrat showed up, putting the two nominations at a standstill. Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, pointed to the "extraordinary circumstances" surrounding the gathering and allowed the Republicans in the room vote to suspend the rules of the committee.
With the committee rules suspended, the 14 Republicans in the room voted to move the Mnuchin and Price nominations to the full Senate, even without the presence of a single member of the opposite party.
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No mention of Obama or Pelosi or Reid doing this.
 
haymarket said:
The rules were put in place for a reason. Changing them in mid stream is a sign of a bully who does not get his way so he uses his power to change the rules to benefit himself.
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Apparently the dems don't care since they couldn't be bothered to show up. Maybe they should show up for work in the future rather than act like children.
 
Ikari said:
Then why were y'all bitching when Obama and the Dems do it? Either it's OK, and it's just spoils of war get over it, or there is a fundamental issue that is damaging by behaving in this manner. If it's the latter, we need to fix it.

This is why we can't have anything nice, everything has to be just to spite the other side. But we're all in the same boat, it's one Republic. Both sides are drilling holes in the bottom and then screaming about the holes the other side is drilling.
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Because it circumvented the process. Now, there is no process. Hell, there's barely a reason for Congress anymore. Democrats turned the presidency into a virtual dictatorship.

Now, Elizabeth Warren, who argued violently against GOP filibuster, says she's gonna filibuster.

Well, Chief Shesahoe, go ahead. Your boy, Harry, cleared the way for us.
 
Ikari said:
They ain't gonna do ****. They're going to bitch and moan and in the end, file in line.



The best they can hope for is to put up a competent and quality candidate in 4 years time that can better compete against Trump.



It didn't start there. But there won't be much cooperation or peace in our time. It's not because ONLY the left is engaged in this, it's that BOTH left and right are running this to its breaking point.
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it started long before any of us were born

but the t has been less intense at other times in our history than it is now

if it were bush or kasich in the white house the protest and democrat party antics would have more impact

but trump is not the usual spineless republican
 
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