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Internal Memo at State Department Opposes Trump’s Travel Ban

American said:
You don't know that. He fired one person who openly opposed his policy beyond mere opinion. She told lawyers not to defend the policy. That's going beyond dissent. She should have been fired. She was temporary anyway.
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Nope- I am on the money. Dissent will not tolerated.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/31/us/politics/sean-spicer-state-dept-travel-ban.html?_r=0

Career officials at the State Department are circulating a so-called dissent cable, which says that Mr. Trump’s executive order closing the nation’s doors to more than 200 million people with the intention of weeding out a handful of would-be terrorists will not make the nation safer, and might instead deepen the threat.

“These career bureaucrats have a problem with it?” Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, told reporters. “They should either get with the program or they can go.”
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upsideguy said:
...ah, so its all about being muslim to you.... now, I hate anecdotes in argument, but since you broke the ice arguing all people have the attributes of one, I will suggest you are an example that Trump's action really was a bigoted muslim ban.
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my point was that the liberal poster says if we just stop interfering in muslim countries they will not hate us

but I think muslim insanity has cultural foots that are deeper than that

he we had a muslim from egypt who was allowed to immigrste to America

why I dont know because after he got here all he was good for was driving a taxi

he was here but with a burning hate towards America that even drove him to murder his own daughters

can you explain that?
 
JANFU said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/...e-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


Any thoughts on how many will incur retribution from Trump??
Response from the WH is get with the program or get out.

WH tells career US diplomats who oppose Trump to get out - CNNPolitics.com


The shut down of any dissenting opinion has begun
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Greetings, Janfu. :2wave:

What is the difference between a Career Diplomat and an Appointed Diplomat? Are they both just considered "jobs" that someone does every day, or is one more important to an administration than the other when rules are being changed?

Since Trump is now POTUS, it does make sense for him to want people that are loyal to his ideas and not someone whose political ideology may be entirely different in the way things were previously done, to the way he intends to do them in the future. Whether this is right or wrong I don't know, but in the business world, from car manufacturing, to coaches on a professional sports team - and everything in between - it is not unusual for a new "boss" to want people around him that he can trust.
 
JANFU said:
Yes it is. Another weapon of fear
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Well, what do you expect from a guy who admires satan for his power?

"Darkness is good," says Bannon, who amid the suits surrounding him at Trump Tower, looks like a graduate student in his T-shirt, open button-down and tatty blue blazer — albeit a 62-year-old graduate student. "Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they" — I believe by "they" he means liberals and the media, already promoting calls for his ouster — "get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing."

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polgara said:
Greetings, Janfu. :2wave:

What is the difference between a Career Diplomat and an Appointed Diplomat? Are they both just considered "jobs" that someone does every day, or is one more important to an administration than the other when rules are being changed?

Since Trump is now POTUS, it does make sense for him to want people that are loyal to his ideas and not someone whose political ideology may be entirely different in the way things were previously done, to the way he intends to do them in the future. Whether this is right or wrong I don't know, but in the business world, from car manufacturing, to coaches on a professional sports team - and everything in between - it is not unusual for a new "boss" to want people around him that he can trust.
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Appointed are generally political appointees.
Does a successful company tolerate or look for dissenting opinions? Yes.
The ones who eventually sign off on this ( State employees) do so knowing their careers come to a full stop.
It is clear that Trump and his senior staff will not tolerate any dissent. He has staff that he can trust. But as we saw on the temp suspension he excluded many of his top advisors.
 
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