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Democrats introduce bill to take nuclear football out of Trump's hands

Absentglare said:
Not necessarily.

President Trump asked us why we don't use nukes. That's some scary ****.
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It's a charade if thy are trying to limit President Trump in ways that past Presidents were not. "Scary" is a relative term.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
It's a charade if thy are trying to limit President Trump in ways that past Presidents were not. "Scary" is a relative term.
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Not necessarily. Past presidents did not give us cause to be concerned with their judgements on this topic.

My grandfather was a colonel in the airforce who spent much of his career fighting for the SALT negotiations and limitations on nuclear armament.

Now we have a buffoon in the white house who boasts that we should build more nukes and suggests that we should use them. Sorry; it is absolutely ****ing terrifying to me that he might be partially sincere in that and i hope congress places appropriate processes in place to ensure that the president cannot unilaterally decide to destroy the planet.
 
Absentglare said:
Not necessarily. Past presidents did not give us cause to be concerned with their judgements on this topic.

My grandfather was a colonel in the airforce who spent much of his career fighting for the SALT negotiations and limitations on nuclear armament.

Now we have a buffoon in the white house who boasts that we should build more nukes and suggests that we should use them. Sorry; it is absolutely ****ing terrifying to me that he might be partially sincere in that and i hope congress places appropriate processes in place to ensure that the president cannot unilaterally decide to destroy the planet.
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Apparently you missed the hysteria when Reagan took office. It was worse than this. MUCH worse.


Congress should do nothing and I doubt they will. This is little more than a few D's posing for the cameras.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Apparently you missed the hysteria when Reagan took office. It was worse than this. MUCH worse.


Congress should do nothing and I doubt they will. This is little more than a few D's posing for the cameras.
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You're absolutely right on the first point, i have no insight into the context of President Reagan's inauguration.

I think launching nukes should require the approval of more than one man and the cabinet official he appointed.
 
Kobie said:
Of course it's partisan! Specifically, partisan against the biggest loose cannon we've had as a president in recent memory. But thanks for moving the goalposts, since you couldn't stick me on "leftwingers being in lockstep."
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Who the hell thought that we liberals marched in lockstep, just like we did with the bitter Bernie-vs.-Hillary rivalry?!
 
Kobie said:
While this is all political posturing, I'm sure any law like this would have caveats in case of such a disastrous turn of events.
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Such as launching a nuclear weapon. :lol:

This bill's intentions of preventing a "mad man" from striking at will would ironically destroy our deterrent.
 
poweRob said:
I seriously doubt if we were under direct attack on our land that there wouldn't be a special session with an expedited move.
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You couldn't get them in the room quick enough, let alone vote.
 
RetiredUSN said:
We would need to see the mushroom clouds before we can verify.
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We wouldn't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud!

That quote applies to W, Powell, Cheney and Rice.
 
ludin said:
The nuclear football is the presidents and no one else's
this bill is dead on arrival.

I love the liberal meltdown though. it is just hilarious.
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Interesting using "meltdown" in a nuke thread.
 
The POTUS has never been able to launch a nuke. There are two other people that have to show up and insert keys and enter codes. The fascist just tells FIRE!
 
randel said:
it is meant to show how mentally unstable trump is
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It's going to backfire, like everything else the Left has tried for the past year.
 
American said:
It's going to backfire, like everything else the Left has tried for the past year.
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with his constant twitter tantrums over petty and insignificant things, trump will do the damage to himself.
 
BrewerBob said:
Trump isn't going to do something that goes against his own best interests. A nuclear war would go against his and every other rich person's interests. So I wouldn't worry about it.

I DO think we need to start taking away the President's power to wage "war" without Congressional approval. But that is irrespective of who is President.
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They did. They passed the war powers act. Presidents immediately ignored it. Congress didnt call them on it. The people didnt hold anyone accountable.
 
RetiredUSN said:
We would need to see the mushroom clouds before we can verify.
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No, need a committee to investigate the matter, a panel to recommend the best coure of action, and of course do some polling first.
 
Cardinal said:
On a separate note, who here can say with absolute sincerity that they're okay with the idea that trump now has the final word in declaring nuclear war?
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I'm not okay with anybody having that final word. But that is the way we do it. Trump is as good or bad as anyone else.
 
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