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Sources say Trump's CIA visit made relations with intel community worse

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Others have posted about Trump's speech as he stood before the Memorial Wall at CIA headquarters. A speech which focused more on his complaints about how he sees the media, which also contained that one big lie in regards to his "respect' for the intelligence community. Again, reality shows us something contradicting his words. TRUMP COMPARES INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY LEAKS WITH NAZI BEHAVIOR

Sources say Trump's CIA visit made relations with intel community worse

U.S. government sources tell CBS News that there is a sense of unease in the intelligence community after President Trump’s visit to CIA headquarters on Saturday.

An official said the visit “made relations with the intelligence community worse” and described the visit as “uncomfortable.”

Authorities are also pushing back against the perception that the CIA workforce was cheering for the president. They say the first three rows in front of the president were largely made up of supporters of Mr. Trump’s campaign.

An official with knowledge of the make-up of the crowd says that there were about 40 people who’d been invited by the Trump, Mike Pence and Rep. Mike Pompeo teams.
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Officials dismiss White House claims that there were people waiting to get into the event.
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US government sources also said it was a slam dunk that Iraq had WMD's.

Unnamed secret sources carry no weight with me.

Trump made a mistake, a serious mistake IMHO, to give a political speech in front of the CIA's Wall of Honor. How that effects his relationship with the intel community as a whole is yet to be seen. Brennan, with the comment he made, became nothing but a political hack for the left. Not that he was wrong in what he said, but rather that he was damn sure wrong in saying it at all.
 
One former top official under CIA Director John Brennan suggested to Newsweek that nobody should take much stock in the applauses Trump received during his speech. “They are good, polite people. He’s the president and he is kissing their ass, why wouldn’t they clap?”
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CIA officials have mixed reactions about President Trump?s speech during his first visit - Salon.com

Exactly....the idea that Trump made the relationship worse would been extensive argument and evidence to warrant being taken seriously, because very very few people take ass kissing unfavorably. The assertion that Trump did bad lacks credibility on its face,
 
Somerville said:
Others have posted about Trump's speech as he stood before the Memorial Wall at CIA headquarters. A speech which focused more on his complaints about how he sees the media, which also contained that one big lie in regards to his "respect' for the intelligence community. Again, reality shows us something contradicting his words. TRUMP COMPARES INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY LEAKS WITH NAZI BEHAVIOR
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I think that Trump's assessment of the CIA is correct. The Russia hacking and golden shower dossiers were distributed by the CIA. This brought the dossiers into the realm of possibly being credible and gave the CIA the opportunity to display their power to/over Trump. Trump fought back and geve the CIA a black eye. We are all supposed to be on the same team but the overall divisiveness in the Nation and body politic and Intelligence Agencies doesn't look good. My opinion of the CIA is an agency of patriotic low level employees under the authority of an old boy power network involving MultiNational Big Bsnks and MultiNational Corporations. Historically, these were the CIA "clients" when their directive was overseas intelligence and overseas covert operations. a/k/a "Helping USA Corporations overseas," like Somoza in Nicaragua, Pinochet in Chile, Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Aristide in Haiti, Noreiga in Panama, and organizing regime changes beneficial to USA MultiNational Corporations. The CIA is in charge of opium interdiction in Afghanistan and the production of opium has increased 50 fold and we are told you can't see the big picture. Bullcrap, the Big Picture is out of focus or out to "focus."
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Somerville said:
Others have posted about Trump's speech as he stood before the Memorial Wall at CIA headquarters. A speech which focused more on his complaints about how he sees the media, which also contained that one big lie in regards to his "respect' for the intelligence community. Again, reality shows us something contradicting his words. TRUMP COMPARES INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY LEAKS WITH NAZI BEHAVIOR
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Putin is having a field day. This complaining, bickering and delegitimization talk. Is more important to him than who is the actual President.
 
Somerville said:
Others have posted about Trump's speech as he stood before the Memorial Wall at CIA headquarters. A speech which focused more on his complaints about how he sees the media, which also contained that one big lie in regards to his "respect' for the intelligence community. Again, reality shows us something contradicting his words. TRUMP COMPARES INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY LEAKS WITH NAZI BEHAVIOR
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I will post here what I posted in another thread where a poster mentioned this supposed fact.

Isn't it a wonderful thing that people can make up **** and credit anonymous sources?

What a country!!
 
Beaudreaux said:
US government sources also said it was a slam dunk that Iraq had WMD's.

Unnamed secret sources carry no weight with me.

Trump made a mistake, a serious mistake IMHO, to give a political speech in front of the CIA's Wall of Honor. How that effects his relationship with the intel community as a whole is yet to be seen. Brennan, with the comment he made, became nothing but a political hack for the left. Not that he was wrong in what he said, but rather that he was damn sure wrong in saying it at all.
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Trump was wrong to do what he did, but he did it because for some warped reason he believes it. Brennan engaged in pure hackery, and he was equally wrong. He should have taken a page from GW Bush and kept his fat mouth shut.
 
Beaudreaux said:
US government sources also said it was a slam dunk that Iraq had WMD's.

Unnamed secret sources carry no weight with me.

Trump made a mistake, a serious mistake IMHO, to give a political speech in front of the CIA's Wall of Honor. How that effects his relationship with the intel community as a whole is yet to be seen. Brennan, with the comment he made, became nothing but a political hack for the left. Not that he was wrong in what he said, but rather that he was damn sure wrong in saying it at all.
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Not only that but while standing in front of that wall he says we should have taken Iraq's oil and then says, "Ok, but maybe we'll have another chance". WTF? He makes a flippant remark like that while it is the people like those represented on that wall who pay the price for such choices. Horrible optics and completely insensitive.

Maybe if he ever decides to invade Iran he should announce it from a podium in front of the Vietnam War Memorial.
 
Somerville said:
Others have posted about Trump's speech as he stood before the Memorial Wall at CIA headquarters. A speech which focused more on his complaints about how he sees the media, which also contained that one big lie in regards to his "respect' for the intelligence community. Again, reality shows us something contradicting his words. TRUMP COMPARES INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY LEAKS WITH NAZI BEHAVIOR
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Why did he get a 5 minute standing O, if relations are worse?
 
BrewerBob said:
Not only that but while standing in front of that wall he says we should have taken Iraq's oil and then says, "Ok, but maybe we'll have another chance". WTF? He makes a flippant remark like that while it is the people like those represented on that wall who pay the price for such choices. Horrible optics and completely insensitive.

Maybe if he ever decides to invade Iran he should announce it from a podium in front of the Vietnam War Memorial.
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Most of the people represented on that wall didn't die on the battlefield.
 
Somerville said:
Others have posted about Trump's speech as he stood before the Memorial Wall at CIA headquarters. A speech which focused more on his complaints about how he sees the media, which also contained that one big lie in regards to his "respect' for the intelligence community. Again, reality shows us something contradicting his words. TRUMP COMPARES INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY LEAKS WITH NAZI BEHAVIOR
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Really? Are you sure about that? Trump supporters have said Trump received thunderous applause from them that lasted for twenty five minutes, followed by retiring to a giant spa where they all had hot, steaming sex with him.
 
MaggieD said:
I will post here what I posted in another thread where a poster mentioned this supposed fact.

Isn't it a wonderful thing that people can make up **** and credit anonymous sources?

What a country!!
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I agree this whole anonymous thing is for the birds. put some weight behind your accusations.
not just random source from the cia.

whatever the hell that means.

if you look at the sources posting this stuff all liberal leftwing articles.
 
tres borrachos said:
Trump was wrong to do what he did, but he did it because for some warped reason he believes it. Brennan engaged in pure hackery, and he was equally wrong. He should have taken a page from GW Bush and kept his fat mouth shut.
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IF IT'S TRUE...that everything the intelligence community has said about Russia's interference was accurate, then Brennan's comments would frankly make a lot of sense in light of what Trump has said about them.
 
Cardinal said:
IF IT'S TRUE...that everything the intelligence community has said about Russia's interference was accurate, then Brennan's comments would frankly make a lot of sense in light of what Trump has said about them.
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I think that what Brennan said was possibly (probably) true. I just didn't like that he said it.
 
tres borrachos said:
I think that what Brennan said was possibly (probably) true. I just didn't like that he said it.
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And normally I would agree, but considering the particularly brutal and vocal manner that Trump gave the intelligent complete hell, I get why Brennan would publicly come to bat for them. I couldn't tell you if it was smart, and of course it almost certainly wasn't effective, but I get it.
 
apdst said:
Most of the people represented on that wall didn't die on the battlefield.
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No, but it was in the service of their country nonetheless.
 
BrewerBob said:
No, but it was in the service of their country nonetheless.
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Most of them died during peace time, or thousands of miles away from a battlefield. The point being, a minority of them died as a direct result of making a decision to go to war.

CIA agents volunteer for that service because they want to get into the thick of things; take those kind of chances. They don't go into it hoping nothing will happen.
 
apdst said:
What battlefields did we have troops in in 1983 and '89?
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Pls define battlefield.
Look at the ones killed in an air crash, believe it was Tibet.
 
Somerville said:
Others have posted about Trump's speech as he stood before the Memorial Wall at CIA headquarters. A speech which focused more on his complaints about how he sees the media, which also contained that one big lie in regards to his "respect' for the intelligence community. Again, reality shows us something contradicting his words. TRUMP COMPARES INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY LEAKS WITH NAZI BEHAVIOR
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Right here is a great example of media bias. "US Government Sources" Do you realize that they don't say who because it was probably some no named janitor who had an opinion and voiced it. The educated people who watched this event could clearly see that Trump has an amazing amount of support in the CIA. Not to mention the obvious and that is, his simply showing up and vowing his support would not in turn make the relationship worse. Common sense tells us this. If they had a bad view then his speech would not have made that worse, and if they had a good view before that would only have strengthen. When are people going to use common sense and stop letting the media persuade them?
 
apdst said:
CIA agents volunteer for that service because they want to get into the thick of things; take those kind of chances. They don't go into it hoping nothing will happen.
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I don't dispute that. But none of that justifies using it as a backdrop for that kind of speech. What if it were the Tomb of the Unknown. The Vietnam Memorial. Ground Zero. It is something decent people, and people who can at least fake decency, don't do.
 
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