Sources say Trump's CIA visit made relations with intel community worse

[austrianecon]

I work in the IC and knew at least six 89-3r Delta Foxes out of the Congo.

Well since we are getting into classified. I'll just say Intrepid Spear.

 

[Cardinal]

Well since we are getting into classified. I'll just say Intrepid Spear.

 

[fmw]

I don't dispute that. But none of that justifies using it as a backdrop for that kind of speech. What if it were the Tomb of the Unknown. The Vietnam Memorial. Ground Zero. It is something decent people, and people who can at least fake decency, don't do.

Why not? Why is it a problem to underscore the tough jobs some Americans do every day? When Obama does it is is good. When Trump does it, it is bad. Nothing partisan about that.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Why not? Why is it a problem to underscore the tough jobs some Americans do every day? When Obama does it is is good. When Trump does it, it is bad. Nothing partisan about that.

I think it is bad when Obama does it as well.

I am fine with giving a speech in front of a Memorial if the primary purpose of that speech is to honor the people that are memorialized. I am not ok with using it as a backdrop for giving partisan political speeches like Trump did. I haven't heard the speech Obama gave in front of it but if he did the same then screw him to for that.

 

[fmw]

I think it is bad when Obama does it as well.

I am fine with giving a speech in front of a Memorial if the primary purpose of that speech is to honor the people that are memorialized. I am not ok with using it as a backdrop for giving partisan political speeches like Trump did. I haven't heard the speech Obama gave in front of it but if he did the same then screw him to for that.

It seems like a silly thing to worry about.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

It seems like a silly thing to worry about.

Well, I'm not losing sleep over it. But then I don't lose sleep over most things over most things I bitch about here.

 

[minnie616]

Why not? Why is it a problem to underscore the tough jobs some Americans do every day? When Obama does it is is good. When Trump does it, it is bad. Nothing partisan about that.

I think it is bad when Obama does it as well.

I am fine with giving a speech in front of a Memorial if the primary purpose of that speech is to honor the people that are memorialized. I am not ok with using it as a backdrop for giving partisan political speeches like Trump did. I haven't heard the speech Obama gave in front of it but if he did the same then screw him to for that.

From CIA website

Feb.5, 2010

President Obama and CIA Director Panetta Speak at CIA Memorial Service

February 5, 2010

The Central Intelligence Agency today held a memorial service at its headquarters for the seven Americans killed in eastern Afghanistan on December 30th. Family members and more than a thousand Agency officers gathered in attendance, along with guests including President Obama and senior officials from the Intelligence Community, the White House, and the Pentagon, as well as members of Congress.

President Obama spoke of the country’s gratitude to the families. “Everything you instilled in them — the virtues of service and decency and duty — were on display that December day. That is what you gave them. That is what you gave to America. And our nation will be forever in your debt.” He told CIA officers that their “seven heroes” were at the vanguard of a mission vital to national security. “Let their sacrifice be a summons. To carry on their work. To complete this mission. To win this war, and to keep our country safe.”

CIA Director Leon E. Panetta paid tribute to the talent and accomplishments of the fallen, telling their loved ones that Agency officers “simply cannot do these jobs — we can’t do these jobs — without the love and support of our families.” He called the seven “genuine patriots” who “lived up to our highest principles,” and pledged that CIA would strive to be worthy of them. Panetta added: “As they worked to protect lives, they sacrificed their own. For this, we honor them — now and always…We will carry this fight to the enemy. Our resolve is unbroken, our energy undiminished, and our dedication to each other and to our nation, unshakable.”

https://www.cia.gov/news-informatio...d-cia-director-speak-at-memorial-service.html

 

[bluesmoke]

I think that Trump's assessment of the CIA is correct. The Russia hacking and golden shower dossiers were distributed by the CIA. This brought the dossiers into the realm of possibly being credible and gave the CIA the opportunity to display their power to/over Trump. Trump fought back and geve the CIA a black eye. We are all supposed to be on the same team but the overall divisiveness in the Nation and body politic and Intelligence Agencies doesn't look good. My opinion of the CIA is an agency of patriotic low level employees under the authority of an old boy power network involving MultiNational Big Bsnks and MultiNational Corporations. Historically, these were the CIA "clients" when their directive was overseas intelligence and overseas covert operations. a/k/a "Helping USA Corporations overseas," like Somoza in Nicaragua, Pinochet in Chile, Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Aristide in Haiti, Noreiga in Panama, and organizing regime changes beneficial to USA MultiNational Corporations. The CIA is in charge of opium interdiction in Afghanistan and the production of opium has increased 50 fold and we are told you can't see the big picture. Bullcrap, the Big Picture is out of focus or out to "focus."
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"interdiction"? Since the US invaded Afghanistan, the nation came out of nowhere to be the #1 producer of heroin. We also invaded, with the back-thought to nation-build a democracy, a country where in the entire middle east had the highest percentage of belief in a sharia law run country.

I do not agree with the walnut-narcissist Trump take on the CIA's assessment of Russia's involvement with our electoral process. The rest of what you say I, without total commitment, agree with. To me, you really nail it.

 

[Bark]

Why did he get a 5 minute standing O, if relations are worse?

He hired it. Paid people to do it. Well let us say he hired it. That is clear. What is unclear is if he actually paid. Maybe they only took cash up front?