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Executive actions ready to go as Trump prepares to take office

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Donald Trump is preparing to sign executive actions on his first day in the White House on Friday to take the opening steps to crack down on immigration, build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border and roll back outgoing President Barack Obama's policies.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-idUSKBN1532T3?il=0
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I know that there is another thread lamenting that President Trump may not get busy until Monday, however, Reuters reports that today some orders may be signed....So, There you go libs....Getting started immediately.
 
j-mac said:
I know that there is another thread lamenting that President Trump may not get busy until Monday, however, Reuters reports that today some orders may be signed....So, There you go libs....Getting started immediately.
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Lets hope its true. There is a lot he can do by simply reversing all the things Obama did and directing action on things Obama ignored.
 
He can start by pulling this country together, and acting the part.
 
j-mac said:
I know that there is another thread lamenting that President Trump may not get busy until Monday, however, Reuters reports that today some orders may be signed....So, There you go libs....Getting started immediately.
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And you, of course, think this is an abuse of his power, correct? At least, that's the way I understood one of your previous posts about Obama and executive actions:

j-mac said:
Liberal Obama supporters always ask the question about what would like Obama to do? Well, when he comes out like this, threatening to just go around congress, and make law himself void of the legislative process, then it is no longer the country I recognize...I guess Podesta is already making his presence felt.

It is no wonder we think Obama is dangerous, because HE IS!

We have a process in this country to do these things Obama wants to do, and it certainly is not unilaterally. We don't have a King, we don't have a dictator, what we have in Obama may actually be worse.
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So Trump is dangerous and may be worse than a king or dictator, right?
 
Slyfox696 said:
And you, of course, think this is an abuse of his power, correct? At least, that's the way I understood one of your previous posts about Obama and executive actions:



So Trump is dangerous and may be worse than a king or dictator, right?
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If he starts to go around congress like Obama did with his EO's then yes the same would apply, if we are talking about signing EO's to nullify Obama's unconstitutional processes, and rules, then he is well within appropriate actions.
 
yankintx said:
He can start by pulling this country together, and acting the part.
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In what universe would YOU accept DT as your President? Just asking coz based off your posting history regarding Trump, I see no way in hell that happens? Am right? ;)

In any event, Trump is going to Trump, he's going to do things that piss off conservatives, but a whole lot more that pisses of Liberal progressives. That is the nature of Presidential politics. Obama did the same thing but in reverse.


Tim-
 
Slyfox696 said:
And you, of course, think this is an abuse of his power, correct? At least, that's the way I understood one of your previous posts about Obama and executive actions:



So Trump is dangerous and may be worse than a king or dictator, right?
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Who would you suggest reverse an EO? Only another POTUS can do so.
 
j-mac said:
I know that there is another thread lamenting that President Trump may not get busy until Monday, however, Reuters reports that today some orders may be signed....So, There you go libs....Getting started immediately.
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Let's see if he understands that the nasty stuff with three years delayed rewards are the things Presidents should do in the first 100 days
 
j-mac said:
If he starts to go around congress like Obama did with his EO's then yes the same would apply, if we are talking about signing EO's to nullify Obama's unconstitutional processes, and rules, then he is well within appropriate actions.
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Unless you're an undercover Justice of the SCOTUS, you have no business calling any action of Obama's unconstitutional.
 
WCH said:
Who would you suggest reverse an EO? Only another POTUS can do so.
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My point







Your head
DifferentDrummr said:
Unless you're an undercover Justice of the SCOTUS, you have no business calling any action of Obama's unconstitutional.
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Obviously "unconstitutional" is code for "anything I don't agree with".
 
WCH said:
Ha, I'm not going to disagree with Obama's EOs being reversed.
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I suspect you only have "constitutional" problem with executive actions/orders which don't promote the agenda you think is "right".
 
Slyfox696 said:
I suspect you only have "constitutional" problem with executive actions/orders which don't promote the agenda you think is "right".
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Like other facets of governing, some will be happy, others not so much. IMO, Obama's EOs were to further entrench America in big government malaise whereas Trump's will be used to tear it down.
 
WCH said:
Like other facets of governing, some will be happy, others not so much. IMO, Obama's EOs were to further entrench America in big government malaise whereas Trump's will be used to tear it down.
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I'm of the opinion that, so long as it is within the President's power, there is nothing "illegal" or "unconstitutional" about an EA/EO, even if I may strongly disagree with it. However, far too many people call them "illegal" or "unconstitutional" merely because they don't like them. And that's the hypocrisy I was noting.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I'm of the opinion that, so long as it is within the President's power, there is nothing "illegal" or "unconstitutional" about an EA/EO, even if I may strongly disagree with it. However, far too many people call them "illegal" or "unconstitutional" merely because they don't like them. And that's the hypocrisy I was noting.
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Not sure we can trust the people put in charge of making the 'final' determination on such issues.
 
WCH said:
Not sure we can trust the people put in charge of making the 'final' determination on such issues.
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I'm not sure I follow what you mean here.
 
Slyfox696 said:
And you, of course, think this is an abuse of his power, correct? At least, that's the way I understood one of your previous posts about Obama and executive actions:
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I don't see how undoing what someone else did as abuse of power.
the president doesn't have the ability to make law. which is exactly what Obama tried to do.
that is why court after court struck down his OE.


So Trump is dangerous and may be worse than a king or dictator, right?
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Proof or evidence or more hyperbole?
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Unless you're an undercover Justice of the SCOTUS, you have no business calling any action of Obama's unconstitutional.
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Sure we can see the 1st amendment. Also Obama has been ruled against constantly for overstepping his power.
 
WCH said:
Not sure we can trust the people put in charge of making the 'final' determination on such issues.
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EO's were meant to be memo's to clear up any ambiguity on certain laws or legislations.
They were not meant to change or create new laws that power only comes from congress.

from the dream act to that rule on new salary requirements etc all have been ruled unconstitutional by courts as they should have been.
Obama thought he could change law for a supposed constitutional scholar he didn't know or understand very much about the constitution.
 
WCH said:
The final arbiters of what is legal or constitutional...the SCOTUS.
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which I disagree with. 9 people in black robes should not be able to systematically change the constitution.
there is only 1 way to actually change or modify the constitution and it isn't through the SCOTUS.

something that they fail to realize sometimes more often than not.
 
ludin said:
EO's were meant to be memo's to clear up any ambiguity on certain laws or legislations.
They were not meant to change or create new laws that power only comes from congress.

from the dream act to that rule on new salary requirements etc all have been ruled unconstitutional by courts as they should have been.
Obama thought he could change law for a supposed constitutional scholar he didn't know or understand very much about the constitution.
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I guess clearing up the rules/laws is far-ranging in some minds.
 
ludin said:
I don't see how undoing what someone else did as abuse of power.
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Shocked, I tell ya!
the president doesn't have the ability to make law. which is exactly what Obama tried to do.
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:lol:

Thank you for coming along and providing an example proving my position.

Proof or evidence or more hyperbole?
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It was what j-mac said. Once more, you show no desire to comprehend what you read before you post. Shocked, I tell ya!
WCH said:
The final arbiters of what is legal or constitutional...the SCOTUS.
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I see, thank you for clarifying. And, as I've said, I suspect whether SCOTUS makes the right decision or not likely depends on your agenda and what you consider "right".
 
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