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Trump vows ‘insurance for everybody’ in Obamacare replacement plan

fmw said:
So you are giving up? You see no point in trying fix anything at all? The man is impossible therefore we are all screwed. Sounds like practical solution.
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You could not have said it better, as many on the Right said 8 years ago, we dont have time to train a Pres., applied then, why not now. Comrade Trumps personality defects, perhaps with his Presidental health coverage, he can get that mental health assistance. Rehab for tweeter abusers?
 
apdst said:
You mad because, "fit to fight", lost? :lamo
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Nope not mad, and we have had this juvenile discussion before, no thanks.
 
VanceMack said:
Come on...you've seen the leftists since his election win. New jobs announced...they **** themselves over the type of jobs or the efforts to save or bring in jobs. Initiatives to help inner cities and they **** themselves over his pandering to black people. Announcing that the replacement plan will still cover people and they **** themselves over that as well. This will be the next 4 years. No matter what he does the leftists will **** themselves over it. At some point we just have to be able to recognize...leftists really really love ****ting themselves.
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It is very easy to ignore them now since there is nothing they can do about anything Trump is doing.

Gnats flying around your head.
 
Absentglare said:
No they haven't. Are you confused? It made insurance affordable for millions of Americans who would have otherwise been uninsured.
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And what about the people who are having their rates double or go up evenmore than that?

Do they not count to you?
 
minnie616 said:
I disagree. The reason the ACA failed is there was no public option.

Perhaps Thrump ( if he is serious about lowing costs and having health insurance for all ) will add the public option exchange or will offer a Medicare type insurance for all.
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Truth be told...the ONLY thing that should have been passed was a form of 'public option' offering Medicare buy-in as an option for low income families or people with pre-existing health conditions.
 
Mason66 said:
It is very easy to ignore them now since there is nothing they can do about anything Trump is doing.

Gnats flying around your head.
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I prefer the term mouse farts...
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
And if they can not afford the insurance that is offered?
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Those who really can't afford it get on a government plan, Medicare or Medicaid.

That is the way it is now, right?
 
Mason66 said:
Those who really can't afford it get on a government plan, Medicare or Medicaid.

That is the way it is now, right?
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If so Ryan and others want to gut both. Then they will get around to Social Security
 
Mason66 said:
Those who really can't afford it get on a government plan, Medicare or Medicaid.

That is the way it is now, right?
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I believe the working poor are not covered by Medicaid or Medicare, or a government plan.

To add them to any of the three would add significant costs to the government would it not?
 
Absentglare said:
And yet that, by definition, is NOT "insurance for everybody."
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Yeah, expecting people to step up and care for themselves instead of making everyone else pay for their needs.. madness
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
And if they can not afford the insurance that is offered?
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Be more specific. DO you mean they cant afford it because well...the cable bill is 100 and the cell phone is 100 and that new tattoo is going to cast a couple a hundred and vaping isnt cheap...or do you mean truly cannot afford coverage?
 
VanceMack said:
Be more specific. DO you mean they cant afford it because well...the cable bill is 100 and the cell phone is 100 and that new tattoo is going to cast a couple a hundred and vaping isnt cheap...or do you mean truly cannot afford coverage?
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More towards the second one

The mother of two working a blue collar jobs are or just above min wage. Of course then you have those who do have medical issues where to get coverage means they can not afford anything else
 
Renae said:
Yeah, expecting people to step up and care for themselves instead of making everyone else pay for their needs.. madness
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Nope- What happens when they cannot afford it? Let them die? Is that your solution?
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
I believe the working poor are not covered by Medicaid or Medicare, or a government plan.

To add them to any of the three would add significant costs to the government would it not?
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If the working poor didn't get coverage under Obamacare, who were the 20 million that did get coverage?
 
Mason66 said:
If the working poor didn't get coverage under Obamacare, who were the 20 million that did get coverage?
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They did, but I thought the plan was to get rid of Obamacare, not just make it "better"
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
More towards the second one

The mother of two working a blue collar jobs are or just above min wage. Of course then you have those who do have medical issues where to get coverage means they can not afford anything else
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For THOSE...and for those with preexisting medical conditions, a simple adjustment of medicare would have solved the problems.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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So its not going to be single payer but everyone is going to be covered? Is there going to be a public option then? Any how, a more accurate headline would be, "Offering No Details, Trump Vows "Insurance For Everybody."". Im guessing, as usual, this is more bull**** from Trump. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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You don't need a single payer nor a government option to have everyone covered. I would be more interested in costs and coverage and what will be the mechanisms that reduce the cost of health care to gdp without reducing the positive effects of the expensive system we have.
 
VanceMack said:
Come on...you've seen the leftists since his election win. New jobs announced...they **** themselves over the type of jobs or the efforts to save or bring in jobs. Initiatives to help inner cities and they **** themselves over his pandering to black people. Announcing that the replacement plan will still cover people and they **** themselves over that as well.
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So you're saying they are acting just like Republicans have for the last 8 years? Interesting...
 
JANFU said:
Nope- What happens when they cannot afford it? Let them die? Is that your solution?
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I didn't say that. But good on you for playing the bull**** card.

I expect we'll see an expansion of medicare for the bottom end of incomes and getting as much government red tape out of the way of private insurance companies (less red tape, lower taxes...) to expand coverage options and competition on the free market. Something along those lines instead of a massive government take over of the system that Obama attempted to force on us.
 
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