Dairy Queen owner unleashed a racist tirade on customer, He no longer has a Business.

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Hatuey said:

I don't agree with this. A man doesn't deserve to lose his business for being a racist, he deserves a chance to change his ways and publicly show he has changed. Public humiliation is fine, but to be happy that people lost their jobs because of some stupid **** their boss did is ****ing asinine.

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He bragged about using the slur. Not saying people should lose their livelihood over it, but from the articles he seemed sufficiently imbalanced enough to be on a collision course with losing his franchise one way or another.

I get your position though. Michael Richards loses his damn mind one night in a standup comedy club and his career is destroyed forever. I hate racism and I feel just as little joy at the outcome of that story too.

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Hatuey said:

It's almost like you believe that somebody dismissing your posting style means you've won the argument. Excon thinks the same way. I stopped taking that sort of attitude seriously a long time ago.

iLOL!

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ANd ANOTHER dodged and deflection, this is awesome!!!!! your posts fail and get owned again!
AGain we are waiting please answer the questions:

Do you have a link showing this (keeping it open) was factually possible at this location?
Do we know DQ owned the property etc and not Jim?
Do we know the other workers are not being compensated, transferred or assisted in work by DQ?
Can you show a qoute of anybody celebrating others losing their jobs?

odds on another dodge not happening 200-1

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AGENT J said:

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We've gone over this. Full paragraphs, will get you full responses.

You're welcome to try it. Again, I've had meaningful exchanges with posters who do this. You can't seem to comply and have been acting up because of it.

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Casper said:

Welcome to the New America.:2wave:

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New america? Im not sure what you mean

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Moderate Right said:

Reprehensible and inexcusable but I wonder how many lefties still think that FOX News reports nothing but lies.

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uh what do some lefties and fox have to do with this?

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Cardinal said:

He bragged about using the slur. Not saying people should lose their livelihood over it, but from the articles he seemed sufficiently imbalanced enough to be on a collision course with losing his franchise one way or another.

I get your position though. Michael Richards loses his damn mind one night in a standup comedy club and his career is destroyed forever. I hate racism and I feel just as little joy at the outcome of that story too.

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Richards lost his job, I didn't disapprove. If the 20-30 people working that night at The Laugh Factory had lost their jobs, I would have held the same opinion I do here.

It's a terrible outcome, for anyone to call it a 'good move' is silly.

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Hatuey said:

We've gone over this. Full paragraphs, will get you full responses.

You're welcome to try it. Again, I've had meaningful exchanges with posters who do this. You can't seem to comply and have been acting up because of it.

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And another dodge!!!!!!:lamo:lamo:lamo

I accept your concession, next time like i said simply dont make knee jerk, retarded, dishonest starman posts and they won't get owned so badly.
When you can answer those questions you let us know, until then there will be nothing else and your retarded posts have failed and been destroyed

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AGENT J said:

New america? Im not sure what you mean

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You will, don't rush it, all things in their time.

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Casper said:

You will, don't rush it, all things in their time.

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nice lol but this isn't anything new

a person, especially a boss, being fired for verbally abusing a customer and their kids alone not to mention in a racist way isn't new.
Ive worked consistently since I was 16, 12 if you count my paper route LOL and there's no job I would have got to keep if I did what this guy did.

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Hatuey said:

This was, from the start, a social issue. The company's solution was to shut down the franchise... and maybe... mayybeeeee... help these people find a job.

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No, it was a business decision, to protect the DQ brand and the many other franchisees.

DQ corporate doesn't get to decide how the public will react to a racist owner - they just have to recognize that it will be protests, social media outrage, Twitter firestorms, Facebook posts, etc. and then they deal with that reality by making it clear to EVERYONE they're not going to tolerate that BS in their stores in the clearest way possible which was to shut down that store.

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Hatuey said:

Richards lost his job, I didn't disapprove. If the 20-30 people working that night at The Laugh Factory had lost their jobs, I would have held the same opinion I do here.

It's a terrible outcome, for anyone to call it a 'good move' is silly.

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Assuming corporate couldn't just seize property owned by the racist franchisee and run it, what should they have done?

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Hatuey said:

This was, from the start, a social issue. The company's solution was to shut down the franchise... and maybe... mayybeeeee... help these people find a job.

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No. It was a business decision. Plain and simple.

I doubt that DQ would care at all if so and so was a racist if it did not affect potential sales and result in a ****storm and potential boycots, not to mention stay in the news for days and weeks on end as picketers show up to protest in front of their stores..

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AGENT J said:

nice lol but this isn't anything new

a person, especially a boss, being fired for verbally abusing a customer and their kids alone not to mention in a racist way isn't new.
Ive worked consistently since I was 16, 12 if you count my paper route LOL and there's no job I would have got to keep if I did what this guy did.

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Did not say it was new, been happening since, forever. The difference will be in the open expression of it and the frequency. Hey, I might be wrong, I just see "different" in the making, and from all sides. Gonna be fun, sorta.

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JasperL said:

The woman didn't squirt ketchup on his property.

If you're attributing the acts of some other blacks to this lady as a way to justify calling her and her kids "niggers", you'll have to explain.

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I'm not going to ever justify that word. Or these peoples actions. But I will say that our society needs to get a grip on reality. This man didn't just lose it in a bubble. Some thing or some things have triggered his response. I don't know what they are. But I do know that too many people behave in such ignorant ways that there is much more to this than will ever be heard or understood.

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Casper said:

Did not say it was new, been happening since, forever. The difference will be in the open expression of it and the frequency. Hey, I might be wrong, I just see "different" in the making, and from all sides. Gonna be fun, sorta.

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hmmm really?
You feel this stuff is going to happen, openly and in more frequency in the future than in american past?
Interesting, how come?

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AGENT J said:

hmmm really?
You feel this stuff is going to happen, openly and in more frequency in the future than in american past?
Interesting, how come?

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PC is dead, really it is, PC was taken too far and now the backlash will take it to the other extreme. It will become more common and all one can hope is that it will swing back to the middle quickly, if it doesn't things can escalate from there, not good.

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Casper said:

PC is dead, really it is, PC was taken too far and now the backlash will take it to the other extreme. It will become more common and all one can hope is that it will swing back to the middle quickly, if it doesn't things can escalate from there, not good.

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Why do guys want people to hide their thoughts anyway? I just don't get how anyone benefits from people not speaking freely.

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Casper said:

PC is dead, really it is, PC was taken too far and now the backlash will take it to the other extreme. It will become more common and all one can hope is that it will swing back to the middle quickly, if it doesn't things can escalate from there, not good.

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Interesting.
Well I hope you are wrong.
I do agree "PC" has for a while been out of control in many areas.

I can only go by where I lived though and I dont see this as PC. I guess it kind of is but I dont think many people would say calling people N-words and not calling them n-words is a PC issue per say lol, you know what I mean? I mean I see what you are saying but I just think thats not exactly what PC is. I dont know.

I also dont know if this will happen more often, I think it might be caught more often, exposed more often and talked about more often. I think new people will be inspired to act like racist jackass because of some of the extremist parts of the trump elections support but in sheer numbers I dont know if it will increas. It might . . .maybe you are right. Race relations overall are better than they have ever been though and I would hope that the fringe group that has become vocal wont honestly impact that.

I do think you have a valid point in regards to the nutter extremists though. I think some of them feel brave and empowered or on the other side in defense and lash out mode because of current events and they will be acting out.

Lastly I think location will play a part in it too. In pittsburgh if this happened the majority of times if there were no other black people around this dude would of got told about himself and other customers would have called him the asshile his is walked out and gladly told their story. Guess it could be "interesting"

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AGENT J said:

And another dodge!

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You have to be running out of exclamation marks by now. No way a person can spend that many and still have enough bandwidth to keep going. I don't think you understand that until you post a full coherent paragraph that can be responded.

How you think that means you've defeated anything is beyond me.

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JasperL said:

No, it was a business decision, to protect the DQ brand and the many other franchisees.

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He stated it wasn't a social issue, I explained that it was. How is racism not a social issue?

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calamity said:

No. It was a business decision.

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A business decision stemming out of a social issue. Again, how you think this wasn't a social issue is pretty funny.

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Hatuey said:

He stated it wasn't a social issue, I explained that it was. How is racism not a social issue?

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Racism is a social issue, but how DQ responds to a very stupid and racist franchisee is a business decision, and it is DQ's response we're debating here. That was in fact the point of the person you responded to.

I'm not really understanding your point here. Your big problem is the fact DQ didn't save the jobs of the employees - has nothing to do with racism, as a social issue, but DQs business decision to close the store instead of kicking the owner out and installing new management. If they'd done as you preferred, that course of action has nothing to do with racism as a social issue, but a different business decision.

So I'm confused where you're going here.

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JasperL said:

Racism is a social issue

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Explain to me how this all came about. The solution was what DQ provided. Again, poster said it wasn't a social issue, I explained that the entire discussion is about a social issue: racism

I stated the solution was the wrong one and there were other alternatives that wouldn't have left a whole bunch of people jobless. For example, placing these people in new jobs before announcing they'd shut down the place. Secondly, and I conceded it may not have been that realistic but hey, can't blame a guy for thinking some things are possible.

I then stated the company has a (social) responsibility to those people that were fired (let go?) but had nothing to do with what their boss did. It never addressed it in its 'solution'. As such, it wasn't a good move. It was a move done out of desperation and the need to please people without addressing the issue of the other lives ruined and/or disrupted by an incident that didn't deserve this reckless punishment.

But hey, they may get their jobs back.

Someday.

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AGENT J said:

*Titled slighted edited to make fit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...longer-has-a-business/?utm_term=.0b63205d2425



Additional links and info:
Dairy Queen closes Illinois restaurant after owner uses slur during argument with customer | Fox News
Dairy Queen ending franchise agreement with Zion store after racial slur incident - Lake County News-Sun
https://twitter.com/DairyQueen/status/817525067592728576
Dairy Queen Shuts Franchise After Owner's Reported Racial Confrontation with Customer : snopes.com


WOW!!! what is wrong with people? This nutball had a complete meltdown over his employees making a mistake so it caused him to lose his businesses. What a completely dummy and moron. Nutters and their meltdowns crack me up. Sad and funny at the same time. Good move DQ sweeping in and taking his franchise from him he is clearly unstable and incompetent. What ever ills he has I hope he gets them fixed, he needs serious help.

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The responsible thing or DQ to do would be to figure out a way to keep that DQ open, while removing this jack wagon from the franchise. cause meanwhile, his victims, have no job.

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ReverendHellh0und said:

1.)The responsible thing or DQ to do would be to figure out a way to keep that DQ open, while removing this jack wagon from the franchise.
2.) cause meanwhile, his victims, have no job.

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1.) I agree 100% "IF" that's possible but many franchises are not owned by the franchise name owner, if the property is owned by Jim the contract may have them very stuck and no other solution.
2.) "If" true that part sucks, and yes they would indeed be Jims victims.

maybe in the future info will come out to whether anybody else actually lost a job or if QQ transferred them or is helping them with assistance.