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Jeff Sessions kicks off whirlwind week of Cabinet hearings

NonoBadDog said:
I don't buy into the story that he is a racist. Maybe he is but the race card is pretty worn out anymore. The Democrats have used it up to the point that they need to have a pretty good argument for me to buy into it. No more benefit of the doubt.
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Republicans have certainly never played the race card. No way in hell they'd play in Trump's regime. More than that though is the fact that I am white. If ever there was a time in the last 20 years the American people needed to be wary of racism and bigotry it is now. On this and similar issues I listen to what my black and brown friends, real friends not acquaintances, tell me. It isn't a race card if it racism and bigotry continues to exist.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Republicans have certainly never played the race card. No way in hell they'd play in Trump's regime. More than that though is the fact that I am white. If ever there was a time in the last 20 years the American people needed to be wary of racism and bigotry it is now. On this and similar issues I listen to what my black and brown friends, real friends not acquaintances, tell me. It isn't a race card if it racism and bigotry continues to exist.
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I agree. Bigotry and racism do exist and will never go away. We still have to work at eliminating it. The propensity to label things or situations as racist just because it furthers a cause is done far to often however. It waters down situations that are actually racist. People stop listening. I had a neighbor that I still love dearly but she would pull out her race card in a heart beat. Sometimes it was appropriate but usually it was just because she wasn't getting her way and not a race influenced situation. After awhile the credibility of her race card vanished as far as I was concerned.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I agree. Bigotry and racism do exist and will never go away. We still have to work at eliminating it. The propensity to label things or situations as racist just because it furthers a cause is done far to often however. It waters down situations that are actually racist. People stop listening. I had a neighbor that I still love dearly but she would pull out her race card in a heart beat. Sometimes it was appropriate but usually it was just because she wasn't getting her way and not a race influenced situation. After awhile the credibility of her race card vanished as far as I was concerned.
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I hear you, man. That's wrong.
 
apdst said:
They're covering their asses. You might want to get used to that reality.
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Ah, okay, so they are short-sighted, inept, and cowards. Still agree.
 
danarhea said:
I am listening to the Sessions confirmation hearings as I post this.

Based on what I have heard so far, I am OK with Sessions being Attorney General for the following reasons:

1) Yes, Sessions does have a racist past, but that was 40 years ago. But people change. My brothers and I were raised racists, but today I live in a black neighborhood, and one of my brothers is married to a black woman. Once more, people change. Sessions has prosecuted the KKK, and done other things to show me that he is not the same man he was 40 years ago. I am willing to give him a chance.

2) Sessions is a far right wing Conservative, but Trump was elected, and a president's appointments serve at his pleasure.

While I am strongly against Tillerson, for reasons given in another thread that I started, I don't see why Sessions shouldn't be confirmed. IMHO, he is capable, and his party did win the election, which means that Trump has the right to nominate the people he wants, and they should be confirmed by the Senate, barring any real legal or ethical issues. He may be against Roe v. Wade, and other laws of the land, but he said today that his job is not to make the law, but to enforce existing law, and that is what he would do. I will take his word on that. Until he commits an action which speaks otherwise, I am OK with his selection.

Jeff Sessions kicks off whirlwind week of Cabinet hearings | Boston Herald
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Jeff Beauregard "I thought the Klan was OK until I found out they smoke pot" Sessions? That's the guy republicans want for US Attorney General?
 
Geoist said:
Ah, okay, so they are short-sighted, inept, and cowards. Still agree.
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Call it what you want I'm just telling you why it won't happen. The nanny state party (Democrats) sure as hell isn't going to legalize marijuana.
 
apdst said:
Call it what you want I'm just telling you why it won't happen. The nanny state party (Democrats) sure as hell isn't going to legalize marijuana.
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but the authoritarian party, the Republicans, might? Really?
 
Dittohead not! said:
but the authoritarian party, the Republicans, might? Really?
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I've already said that neither party will.

After the Obama regime, you can't call the Republicans "authoritarian"
 
apdst said:
Call it what you want I'm just telling you why it won't happen. The nanny state party (Democrats) sure as hell isn't going to legalize marijuana.
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:lamo You don't honestly think Dems are more anti-legal weed than Repubs do you?!

Views of the legalization of marijuana remain divided along partisan, age and ethnic lines. While support for legalization has increased by 15 points among both parties since 2010, Republicans continue to be far less likely than Democrats to favor legalization (39% vs. 63%).
Public Views of Marijuana ? Legalization, Decriminalization, Concerns | Pew Research Center

But don't let facts get in the way of your agenda. :roll:
 
Geoist said:
:lamo You don't honestly think Dems are more anti-legal weed than Repubs do you?!

Views of the legalization of marijuana remain divided along partisan, age and ethnic lines. While support for legalization has increased by 15 points among both parties since 2010, Republicans continue to be far less likely than Democrats to favor legalization (39% vs. 63%).
Public Views of Marijuana ? Legalization, Decriminalization, Concerns | Pew Research Center

But don't let facts get in the way of your agenda. :roll:
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No, I don't, nor did I say they are. Stop letting what I didn't say confuse you. ;)
 
apdst said:
I've already said that neither party will.

After the Obama regime, you can't call the Republicans "authoritarian"
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The Republicans became more libertarian after the Obama administration? Really?
 
apdst said:
No, I don't, nor did I say they are. Stop letting what I didn't say confuse you. ;)
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No, you said the Democratic Party "sure as hell isn't going to legalize marijuana" implying Republicans are more open to legalizing. Absolutely false and you know it. :lol:
 
Geoist said:
No, you said the Democratic Party "sure as hell isn't going to legalize marijuana" implying Republicans are more open to legalizing. Absolutely false and you know it. :lol:
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I said neither party will legalize marijuana. I never said that the Repiblicans were more likely to do so. What I implied, is that Democrat congressmen are no more open to it than Republican congressmen.
 
danarhea said:
I am listening to the Sessions confirmation hearings as I post this.

Based on what I have heard so far, I am OK with Sessions being Attorney General for the following reasons:

1) Yes, Sessions does have a racist past, but that was 40 years ago. But people change. My brothers and I were raised racists, but today I live in a black neighborhood, and one of my brothers is married to a black woman. Once more, people change. Sessions has prosecuted the KKK, and done other things to show me that he is not the same man he was 40 years ago. I am willing to give him a chance.

2) Sessions is a far right wing Conservative, but Trump was elected, and a president's appointments serve at his pleasure.

While I am strongly against Tillerson, for reasons given in another thread that I started, I don't see why Sessions shouldn't be confirmed. IMHO, he is capable, and his party did win the election, which means that Trump has the right to nominate the people he wants, and they should be confirmed by the Senate, barring any real legal or ethical issues. He may be against Roe v. Wade, and other laws of the land, but he said today that his job is not to make the law, but to enforce existing law, and that is what he would do. I will take his word on that. Until he commits an action which speaks otherwise, I am OK with his selection.

Jeff Sessions kicks off whirlwind week of Cabinet hearings | Boston Herald
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the "nominates who he wants" and "should be confirmed by the senate", does this include supreme court justices? and did you feel this way about obama?
 
apdst said:
You're just being obtuse, now.
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You can't respond, so you resort to name calling. Typical liberal.

You did post that we can't call the Republicans authoritarian after the Obama regime. So, how did that party change?
 
Dittohead not! said:
You can't respond, so you resort to name calling. Typical liberal.

You did post that we can't call the Republicans authoritarian after the Obama regime. So, how did that party change?
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Obtuse is name calling? :lamo

Who passed Obamacare? Who wants gun control? Who wants to force American citizens to take vaccinations? Who wants to shut down segments of the private sector? Who wants higher taxes? Who wants more intrusive government? Who wants to pass hate speech laws? Who pushed for hate crime laws? It ain't Republicans.
 
randel said:
the "nominates who he wants" and "should be confirmed by the senate", does this include supreme court justices? and did you feel this way about obama?
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Yes I did. I think it was a disgrace that his pick was not even given a confirmation hearing. But, it appears that the Democrats are going to do the same.

Politics - A conflict of interests disguised as ideologies.
 
danarhea said:
Yes I did. I think it was a disgrace that his pick was not even given a confirmation hearing. But, it appears that the Democrats are going to do the same.

Politics - A conflict of interests disguised as ideologies.
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good on you sir, i thought the same, he should have at least been given a hearing....for the repubs, payback is a beyatch
 
randel said:
good on you sir, i thought the same, he should have at least been given a hearing....for the repubs, payback is a beyatch
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Tell me this.... When does it end? After the experiment known as America has ended?
 
danarhea said:
Tell me this.... When does it end? After the experiment known as America has ended?
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let us hope it does not go that far, it will end when we, the people get off our dead arses, vote, and hold our reps accountable, when we show that we, as a country, care......sadly, quite a few of us sit on the sidelines, with our heads up our collective ass, noses buried in our cell phones, believing that nothing we do can make a difference.
 
danarhea said:
Tell me this.... When does it end? After the experiment known as America has ended?
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As far as GOPosters on this board are concerned, it ends when they and trump say it ends!

Did you know trump packed the news conference with paid aides to jeer and intimidate reporters?

Did you know that ADL is upset at trump's nazi comments trivializing the Holocaust?

This guy's way beyond Nixon in taking us to a police state.

But let's have two sets of rules !
 
apdst said:
Obtuse is name calling? :lamo

Who passed Obamacare? Who wants gun control? Who wants to force American citizens to take vaccinations? Who wants to shut down segments of the private sector? Who wants higher taxes? Who wants more intrusive government? Who wants to pass hate speech laws? Who pushed for hate crime laws? It ain't Republicans.
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Oh I see! So, you were making a comparison, and not saying that the Republicans have changed. Of course, both parties are authoritarian, so let's answer your questions one at a time:

Who wants gun control? Yes, mostly Democrats, but no one is for a literal interpretation of the Second Amendment.

Who wants to force American citizens to take vaccinations? No one is being forced. Encouraged, yes, and anyone with a modicum of understanding of the issue is going to be vaccinated anyway.

Who wants to shut down segments of the private sector? Not sure what that refers to. No one is talking about shutting down the private sector, only government.

Who wants higher taxes? No one wants higher taxes. Who wants higher deficits? No one is cutting spending, either.

Who wants more intrusive government? That would be the pro life and anti gay marriage party.

Who wants to pass hate speech laws? Who pushed for hate crime laws? You got me there. Americans have to be free to hate.
 
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