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Trump battles Meryl Streep with tweets as Cabinet picks prepare for grilling

OpportunityCost said:
Nonsense. Hollywood has not held Polanski responsible for his crime for decades. Streep doesn't hold him to any wrongdoing. There is no magnification of the behavior of Trump, her value system is shot.

You are not able to apply critical thinking because you do not see the faults of Hillary Clinton as being just as egregious as those of Trump and have said so repeatedly, so spare me your analysis of how the right thinks.
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I understand that the right assumes that a speech is good or bad based on their assessment of the speaker.

I'm suggesting that the content of the speech might be the subject of the applause. For example, if President-Elect Trump gave a speech on providing single payer healthcare, i'd happily applaud. That doesn't necessarily mean that i personally endorse everything he's ever done or said.
 
NonoBadDog said:
You were talking about who is overreacting most to Trump's tweets. Who gives a **** about Streep? It wouldn't be anyone on the right. Now you shift to Trump sucks Putin's ****. That is your opinion. That and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Where are you going to land next?
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Um, no, that's what you've been talking about for most of this thread. There is a definite pattern of obsession with "clowns" and "window lickers" and "the left" reacting to silly, meaningless things like what the next president says. And that Streep is an old, washed up actress. And an elitist. And nobody cares. Except for all those people who care that you've been talking about.

But i'm not surprised that the right is now acting like even the president doesn't matter. It's like a teenager who drunkenly crashes their car and then tries to convince everyone that they did it on purpose because they like it better that way (and look how much it makes the "clowns" react!).
 
Absentglare said:
Um, no, that's what you've been talking about for most of this thread. There is a definite pattern of obsession with "clowns" and "window lickers" and "the left" reacting to silly, meaningless things like what the next president says. And that Streep is an old, washed up actress. And an elitist. And nobody cares. Except for all those people who care that you've been talking about.

But i'm not surprised that the right is now acting like even the president doesn't matter. It's like a teenager who drunkenly crashes their car and then tries to convince everyone that they did it on purpose because they like it better that way (and look how much it makes the "clowns" react!).
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Who in The Rebellion thinks that Trump made a mistake in going after this actress in Twitter? I dont, I was at the time throwing a party, we had the show on in one of the rooms, I saw enough to know that Streep was out of line.

Conway was better:
She sounds like 2014. The election is over. She lost, Conway said on Fox News’ “Fox & Friends.” “Everybody in that audience, with very few exceptions, was of a single, myopic mind as to how they wanted the election to go and how they expected the election to go. They lost, and I really wish she would have stood up last night and said ‘Look, I didn’t like the election results, but he’s our president and we’re going to support him
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Conway accuses Meryl Streep of 'inciting people's worst instincts' - POLITICO
 
Trump sits in his bed at 3-4 in the morning with his phone in one hand and his Johnny in the other. He referred to Meryl Streep as an overrated actress in response to her urgent message to check this psychotic bed wetter on his every word. His response is the tip of the iceberg as we will see soon no one better say one bad word about him or his crony family. Hopefully all people will join in and bash that dirty POS every waking minute until we run him out of office. America is in deep trouble.
 
rhinefire said:
Trump sits in his bed at 3-4 in the morning with his phone in one hand and his Johnny in the other. He referred to Meryl Streep as an overrated actress in response to her urgent message to check this psychotic bed wetter on his every word. His response is the tip of the iceberg as we will see soon no one better say one bad word about him or his crony family. Hopefully all people will join in and bash that dirty POS every waking minute until we run him out of office. America is in deep trouble.
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I am thinking that the tens of millions of people who voted to make him our President do not agree with your plan.

Nor do good Americans generally.

If we start doing that to our leaders we might as well burn this place down because there will be nothing left, we will never be able to work together to try to leave a decent functioning nation to our kids.
 
TurtleDude said:
that's a reason why your side lost-you assumed that the only people who would support Trump are beneath your contempt. and that attitude pissed off lots of normal Americans
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They ARE beneath my contempt.
 
NonoBadDog said:
You were talking about who is overreacting most to Trump's tweets. Who gives a **** about Streep? It wouldn't be anyone on the right. Now you shift to Trump sucks Putin's ****. That is your opinion. That and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Where are you going to land next?
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Well, that was a buttload of nothing.

Apparently, Trump cares about what Streep said, since he felt compelled to Tweet about it.
 
My last statement on this topic:

I do not believe Mr. Trump was mocking this reporter's disability but his actions/words as a reporter. Even if Mr. Trump was mocking his disability, I don't care. Compared to hillary, who is a liar, a cheat, a crook and a murderer, Trump is a saint.
 
Absentglare said:
I understand that the right assumes that a speech is good or bad based on their assessment of the speaker.

I'm suggesting that the content of the speech might be the subject of the applause. For example, if President-Elect Trump gave a speech on providing single payer healthcare, i'd happily applaud. That doesn't necessarily mean that i personally endorse everything he's ever done or said.
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I'm suggesting that you are again, wrong. The incident she is talking about is mirrored in the way he discussed 2 other people that are NOT disabled. Streep's indictment of Trump is based on a fraudulent media framing of the story without all three incidents being shown to provide context.

Second, she is accepting an award for acting, and leveraging that into political speech instead of simply, humbly accepting the award and the accolades of her peers. She is not a political figure, if she wants to join the political arena she is welcome to do so. But to use a lifetime award you get one of for this purpose, cheapens the award and her.

Third, her opinion doesn't hold much value, she is an actress. She is used to being the most important person in the room and dictating what others think. She doesn't care a whit for flyover country, she doesn't care about Republicans, this is all theatre to hurl sound bites to the press and further the liberal agenda. It has no moral rectitude to it.
 
AlbqOwl said:
He and Cruz were the ONLY ones who weren't establishment status quo people. We've had decades of establishment Republicans promising us how everything would be better if we just elect him or her, but once in office all that seems to go out the window and it is business as usual. They sometimes go through the motions but always insert some sort of monkey wrench--probably at the urging of the Democrats--so that nothing ever really changes.

Ted was as hated by his colleagues as much as all the establishment hated Trump, but Trump had the edge on being able to work a crowd, generate enthusiasm, and he was able to make them believe. Ted, alas, just isn't a warm fuzzy kind of guy and couldn't do the same. So he came up short and Trump came on like gang busters. And in truth, if anybody can get the whole Congress working on pretty much the same page to get things accomplished, Trump has the far better personality and skill set to accomplish that than Ted. I don't think the GOP would ever really support Ted and the Democrats hated him.

Trump may be up against a brick wall too. I don't know. But I sure am hoping he'll have a chance to try.
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Trump is the honey badger of politics--he doesn't give a **** about obstacles. And, that is a good thing. He's already turned a dozen "norms" on their head.
 
Geoist said:
Trump forming a pattern to "discredit" claims he was mocking the person's disability. Yeah, that is proof alright. :lol:
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Piers Morgan, no right winger has come out to challenge Streep:

Second, Trump has always furiously denied – and has again today on Twitter - he was mocking the reporter’s disability and a Conservative website produced video evidence of numerous other instances where he made the exact same gesture to fully able-bodied people when attacking them. (See here and decide for yourself).

The 2016 event Streep referred to happened in 2015 and Trump has repeatedly denied he mocked anyone's disability with his floundering - he has done the same impression of able body people multiple times

Third, the reporter is hardly a powerless individual with ‘no capacity to fight back’; he’s a long-time Pulitzer-prize winning investigative journalist at the New York Times, a paper that’s trashed Trump for decades.

Read more: PIERS MORGAN slams Meryl Streep's Golden Globes spech | Daily Mail Online
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Kobie said:
They ARE beneath my contempt.
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Ahhh, yet another example of the caring, tolerant, open-minded Lib.

Trump is like a Swiss Army knife with a guaranteed to work, Disgusting Lib Revealer attachment.
 
Kobie said:
The right has no problem with Trump's tweets, because they're fine with a juvenile, Putin-slurping nimrod as President as long as it's not a Democrat.
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We have no problem with his tweets because they go around the Goebbels Inspired Media Propagandists (GIMPs).

If the press would do its job, the need to tweet would be greatly reduced.

I think the reason the Left has their gonch in a wad is because they see their Press Corpse being taken on... head on... in the process being exposed repeatedly as bad actors, and made largely irrelevant.

To think of the endless infusion of lies, deceit, bad reporting and coverups on behalf of Criminal Hillary, and she, Obama, and the Demokrat Party got trounced.

The press has earned their lowly place.

It's wonderful to see.

And equally wonderful to watch and listen to the chorus of the unhinged Left respond on cue... like trained seals.
 
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Puigb said:
How it affects his chances of winning again in 2020 will be the difference.
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2020 is a long way away. He may or may not have a chance in 2020.

So we get 4 more years of childlike loser bitching. Or more probably eight.
 
TurtleDude said:
no it isn't-you will be equally upset once he takes office
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Seems to me that the problem the left has with Trumps tweets is that he speaks directly to the people rather than allow his comments to be filtered through the press. Transparency at its best. But with Trump the people must do their analysis rather than have the talking points spoon fed to them every Sunday morning.
 
Absentglare said:
I understand that the right assumes that a speech is good or bad based on their assessment of the speaker.

I'm suggesting that the content of the speech might be the subject of the applause. For example, if President-Elect Trump gave a speech on providing single payer healthcare, i'd happily applaud. That doesn't necessarily mean that i personally endorse everything he's ever done or said.
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But would you applaud as loudly if Trump gave a well thought out and rational speech laying out the reasons why single payer is not a good idea? Or are you only interested in speeches supporting your beliefs?
 
Kobie said:
They ARE beneath my contempt.
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And that attitude still pisses off the voters. Which is not a winning strategy. Hillary tried that one with her basket of deplorables comment. Didn't work then, won't work now.
 
Kobie said:
Well, that was a buttload of nothing.

Apparently, Trump cares about what Streep said, since he felt compelled to Tweet about it.
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So? Only hyper sensitive partisans give a damn.
 
Strategic advantages of Trump's tweeting:

- He communicates directly and frequently with people.

- He influences what the media talks about.

- The forced conciseness of tweets enables him to make statements without the obligation of explaining or justifying them in any detail.

- The forced conciseness of tweets enables him to make statements which are somewhat ambiguous, which gives him some wiggle room going forward.

- Tweeting doesn't take much of his time.

He's thinking out of the box, rather than being constrained by historical norms, and overall it seems to be working fairly well for him ...
 
TurtleDude said:
yeah that's a good attitude-hate half the voters in the country.
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As San Franciscan Melinda Byerley has recently discovered (or so I forlornly hope). I see that she's made her Twitter account private now, but I read her tweets over the weekend and the responses to her screenshot. I've just Googled for a copy of this, which begins with ""One thing middle america could do is to realize that no educated person wants to live in a ****hole with stupid people. Especially violent, racist, and/or misogynistic ones."

https://ethicsalarms.com/2017/01/09/ethics-dunce-marketingconsulting-firm-ceo-melinda-byerley/

Liberal Tech Executive: Middle America Needs To Realize That They’re Racist, They Live In A ‘S**thole,’ And Jobs Won’t Come Until They…Evolve - Matt Vespa

Yo Democrats, THIS tweet about middle America from nobody Melinda Byerley is WHY you keep losing – twitchy.com
 
OpportunityCost said:
I'm suggesting that you are again, wrong. The incident she is talking about is mirrored in the way he discussed 2 other people that are NOT disabled. Streep's indictment of Trump is based on a fraudulent media framing of the story without all three incidents being shown to provide context.
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False. Do you need the transcript of her speech? The scene unfolded exactly as she described.

OpportunityCost said:
Second, she is accepting an award for acting, and leveraging that into political speech instead of simply, humbly accepting the award and the accolades of her peers. She is not a political figure, if she wants to join the political arena she is welcome to do so. But to use a lifetime award you get one of for this purpose, cheapens the award and her.
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False, it was a performance that personally affected her. She's allowed to spend her influence and freedom the way she wants to.

OpportunityCost said:
Third, her opinion doesn't hold much value, she is an actress. She is used to being the most important person in the room and dictating what others think. She doesn't care a whit for flyover country, she doesn't care about Republicans, this is all theatre to hurl sound bites to the press and further the liberal agenda. It has no moral rectitude to it.
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That's just your silly opinion. She's smart, wise, and compassionate. She, much like the average American, is better qualified for POTUS than our president-elect.
 
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