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Exclusive: Trump team seeks agency records on border barriers, surveillance

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In a wide-ranging request for documents and analysis, President-elect Donald Trump's transition team asked the Department of Homeland Security last month to assess all assets available for border wall and barrier construction.
The team also asked about the department's capacity for expanding immigrant detention and about an aerial surveillance program that was scaled back by the Obama administration but remains popular with immigration hardliners. And it asked whether federal workers have altered biographic information kept by the department about immigrants out of concern for their civil liberties.

The requests were made in a Dec. 5 meeting between Trump's transition team and Department of Homeland Security officials, according to an internal agency memo reviewed by Reuters. The document offers a glimpse into the president-elect's strategy for securing the U.S. borders and reversing polices put in place by the Obama administration.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-border-trump-exclusive-idUSKBN14N0TY?il=0
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Here we go! Some of the first steps to reversing some of the Obama policy in this country is underway....
 
j-mac said:
Here we go! Some of the first steps to reversing some of the Obama policy in this country is underway....
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Well, it would be shame if it has to come down to a physical wall. I'd prefer we try everything else first. But there's nothing much more important than border security, so if Trump can do it he gets my credit.

A secure border I think is Trump's biggest draw, and the one I supported him most in.
 
If he does what he says he will do and get us out of NAFTA, there won't be an immigration problem any longer.
 
Chomsky said:
Well, it would be shame if it has to come down to a physical wall. I'd prefer we try everything else first. But there's nothing much more important than border security, so if Trump can do it he gets my credit.

A secure border I think is Trump's biggest draw, and the one I supported him most in.
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It sounds like trump means what he says about border security

Which must seem very confusing to anti trumpsters who have been assuring us there will be no wall
 
Mac77 said:
It sounds like trump means what he says about border security

Which must seem very confusing to anti trumpsters who have been assuring us there will be no wall
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Well, I'm an anti-Trumpster and he's definitely piqued my interest - so yeah.

I'd like to see him attack it from the employer side too, and mandate E-verify.
 
Chomsky said:
Well, I'm an anti-Trumpster and he's definitely piqued my interest - so yeah.

I'd like to see him attack it from the employer side too, and mandate E-verify.
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The conventionsl wisdom is that no politician means what they say and only says what they need to say to get elected

Which is true almost 100% of the time

But trump is a businessman not a politician
 
Chomsky said:
Well, I'm an anti-Trumpster and he's definitely piqued my interest - so yeah.

I'd like to see him attack it from the employer side too, and mandate E-verify.
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There's already a law in place to go after employers who hire illegals.
 
j-mac said:
President-elect Donald Trump's transition team asked the Department of Homeland Security last month to assess all assets available for border wall and barrier construction.
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I thought Mexico was going to pay for it. ;)
 
Mac77 said:
It sounds like trump means what he says about border security

Which must seem very confusing to anti trumpsters who have been assuring us there will be no wall
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Great job creator.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Having laws is not the same as enforcing laws.
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Agreed, but there's a misconception that no law exists to sanction employers who hire illegals.
 
I don't think he'll have the votes for a wall. More fencing and increased personnel along with more electronic surveillance maybe, but not a wall.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...wall-deportation-plans-face-pushback-from-gop

Personally I'd prefer they just enforce the laws that are already on the books along with a nationwide full e-verify. That would go a long way in removing the incentive for illegals to come here. Once that's done then maybe we can work on some sort of guest worker program like Bush Jr wanted.
 
HonestJoe said:
I thought Mexico was going to pay for it. ;)
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Suppose the wall/fence/barrior gets built and illegal border crossings drop to near zero but mexico does not pay for it?

Will that make the anti trumpsters even more angry at trump and cause them to not vote for him in 2020 also?

Oh thats cruel
 
azgreg said:
I don't think he'll have the votes for a wall. More fencing and increased personnel along with more electronic surveillance maybe, but not a wall.

https://www.bloomberg.c"om/politics...wall-deportation-plans-face-pushback-from-gop

Personally I'd prefer they just enforce the laws that are already on the books along with a nationwide full e-verify. That would go a long way in removing the incentive for illegals to come here. Once that's done then maybe we can work on some sort of guest worker program like Bush Jr wanted.
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Bloomberg is pro open borders and amnesty so naturally they will give substance to all the republican quislings in the senate


Lawmakers want to “ensure that children who were brought here by their parents, through no fault of their own,

are able to stay and finish their education and continue to contribute to society,” said Republican Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona. Republicans Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska are joining him on a measure drafted by the No. 2 Democratic leader, Dick Durbin of Illinois, that will be introduced after the new Congress convenes Jan. 3.
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Is that all that the open borders anti trumpsters want?

To save the innocent children of illegal aliens who were brought here illegally by their law-breaking parents?

Of course not

The Dreamers are just big anchor babies who were born too soon
 
apdst said:
Agreed, but there's a misconception that no law exists to sanction employers who hire illegals.
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The misconception is that immigration laws are enforced. How, exactly, can we expect about 5K ICE agents to deal with about 12 million immigration law offenders? To put that in some context - NYC has a population of about 8.5 million and the NYPD has about 35K officers.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The misconception is that immigration laws are enforced. How, exactly, can we expect about 5K ICE agents to deal with about 12 million immigration law offenders? To put that in some context - NYC has a population of about 8.5 million and the NYPD has about 35K officers.
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I don't think there is any misconception that immigration laws are enforced. :)
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The misconception is that immigration laws are enforced. How, exactly, can we expect about 5K ICE agents to deal with about 12 million immigration law offenders? To put that in some context - NYC has a population of about 8.5 million and the NYPD has about 35K officers.
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The first step is to stop them at the border so that 10 years from now we are not talking about what to do with 100 million illegal aliens onstead of the low-ball number of 12 million that you used
 
Mac77 said:
The first step is to stop them at the border so that 10 years from now we are not talking about what to do with 100 million illegal aliens onstead of the low-ball number of 12 million that you used
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The problem is that first step will take many years and cost many billions, meanwhile that low number continues to go up.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The problem is that first step will take many years and cost many billions, meanwhile that low number continues to go up.
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It depends on how good the open border quislings in congress are at obstruction.

Btw: how do you like your new coach?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
You doubt that Obama has claimed that many more "deportations" have occurred?

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - ABC News

I predict that Trump will do much the same (deport only the worst)

since there is no "small government" way of dealing with 12 million illegal aliens.
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But as everyone is quick to point out trump is not really a true small government conservative, is he?

The more realistic estimate of 20-30 million illegals can be deslt with using expidited proceedures to speed up the process.

But going slow is ok too as long as we are moving in the right direction for the first time in 50 years
 
Chomsky said:
Well, I'm an anti-Trumpster and he's definitely piqued my interest - so yeah.

I'd like to see him attack it from the employer side too, and mandate E-verify.
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The employer and the aiding and abetting by government entities and non profits is the way to go.

Take away the benefits of being here and the problem will self deport.
 
apdst said:
There's already a law in place to go after employers who hire illegals.
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That's the thing. The laws are already in place. It's the enforcement that has been the problem.
 
jimbo said:
The employer and the aiding and abetting by government entities and non profits is the way to go.

Take away the benefits of being here and the problem will self deport.
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Not entirely

What about the anchor babies that illegals have been dumping on our sociery lo these many years?
 
jimbo said:
That's the thing. The laws are already in place. It's the enforcement that has been the problem.
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I agree with you that we must enforce the laws we have

But trump and trump voters will have to pressure congress to pay more laws and close some of the loopholes in place now
 
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