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Gun attack kills at least 35 at Istanbul nightclub

Jack Hays said:
With all due respect, that's just ignorant BS.
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It's reality. Answer this: what was the U.S. strategy in the Pacific Theater during WW2? How much did the ROE's effect that strategy?
 
American said:
Of course there's the possibility of retaliation.
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I understand but I'd rather be circumspect of killing people in this sort of conflict vs a country vs country war. the other solution-horrible as it might be, is to simply annihilate an entire population from which the terrorists come from. right now what seems to be happening is like surgery removing a little bit of the cancer and a little bit of healthy cells

the cancer keeps coming back
 
TurtleDude said:
yeah and some of those boys were probably the ones who blew up our barracks, bombed the Cole and perhaps flew planes into the WTS.
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Were they German, British, Japanese, Filipino, or American?
 
apdst said:
It's reality. Answer this: what was the U.S. strategy in the Pacific Theater during WW2? How much did the ROE's effect that strategy?
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We were fighting an identifiable uniformed enemy and an enemy state. Not an apt analogy.

No one despises collateral damage more than those who actually do the fighting.
 
TurtleDude said:
Hmm seems to me that if you kill some boy's father by accident, that boy will spend the rest of his life wanting to kill you or kill people from the country who killed his father
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Depending on the fact that boy might already want to kill you because his father has taught him to. There is no age requirement in jihad.
 
coldjoint said:
Depending on the fact that boy might already want to kill you because his father has taught him to. There is no age requirement in jihad.
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true enough, I am just warning against creating more such boys.
 
Jack Hays said:
We were fighting an identifiable uniformed enemy and an enemy state. Not an apt analogy.

No one despises collateral damage more than those who actually do the fighting.
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The islamic terrorists are identifiable. A bit harder to identify, but identifiable.

Those who actually do the fighting accept that collateral damage is the reality of warfare. Those who do the fighting place a higher priority on personal survival than avoiding collateral damage.
 
apdst said:
The islamic terrorists are identifiable. A bit harder to identify, but identifiable.

Those who actually do the fighting accept that collateral damage is the reality of warfare. Those who do the fighting place a higher priority on personal survival than avoiding collateral damage.
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Many times they are not identifiable at all. We spend a lot of time and effort identifying them and then killing them. It's hard work. Are you at all familiar with that work?
Of course fighting men (and today, women) put a premium on survival, but that does not mean they don't care about minimizing collateral damage.
 
Jack Hays said:
Many times they are not identifiable at all. We spend a lot of time and effort identifying them and then killing them. It's hard work. Are you at all familiar with that work?
Of course fighting men (and today, women) put a premium on survival, but that does not mean they don't care about minimizing collateral damage.
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Sure it's hard, but it isn't impossible.

No our troops aren't savages, however their personal survival takes a higher priority over collateral damage.
 
apdst said:
Sure it's hard, but it isn't impossible.

No our troops aren't savages, however their personal survival takes a higher priority over collateral damage.
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The work is being done. Based on the rest of your post, you have abandoned your argument.
 
Jack Hays said:
The work is being done. Based on the rest of your post, you have abandoned your argument.
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My argument is that we need to meet the threat with superior violence. Doing,"more damage in less time than the enemy", has been the foundation of every successful military campaign in human history.
 
apdst said:
My argument is that we need to meet the threat with superior violence. Doing,"more damage in less time than the enemy", has been the foundation of every successful military campaign in human history.
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We already do that.
 
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