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North Carolina Lawmakers leave 'bathroom bill' in place

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The funny thing is if transgenders weren't trying to force their way into bathrooms in the first place this law would have never came to pass. Funny how that works.
 
TurtleDude said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...pealing-bathroom-bill/?utm_term=.7ef39c3372e6
North Carolina lawmakers failed Wednesday to repeal a law regulating transgender people’s use of public restrooms, despite convening in a special legislative session for the express purpose of rescinding the controversial law.


guess the boycotts will continue
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They can vote to neuter the power of the next governor but they can't repeal a bathroom bill?

North Carolina is a weird state.
 
TurtleDude said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...pealing-bathroom-bill/?utm_term=.7ef39c3372e6
North Carolina lawmakers failed Wednesday to repeal a law regulating transgender people’s use of public restrooms, despite convening in a special legislative session for the express purpose of rescinding the controversial law.


guess the boycotts will continue
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What I can't understand is why the NCAA would cancel games in NC because of this bill. Doesn't matter to me however. I don't watch basketball. It's just weird that a sport would get involved in politics. I usually piss in the woods. There isn't a sign up that says what part of the woods any gender can use.
 
Henrin said:
The funny thing is if transgenders weren't trying to force their way into bathrooms in the first place this law would have never came to pass. Funny how that works.
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Damn those transgenders - they ought to just hold it when in public! :roll:
 
Cardinal said:
They can vote to neuter the power of the next governor but they can't repeal a bathroom bill?

North Carolina is a weird state.
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I lived there for a while and thought it had decent state government - great schools, good roads, etc. Post Obama it's just gone off the rails, from where I sit a state over. We've got our share of crazies in the legislature, but I guess they've been held in check by adult leadership and a non-batcrap crazy governor (Haslam).
 
JasperL said:
Damn those transgenders - they ought to just hold it when in public! :roll:
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Considering that they're not the opposite sex they don't belong in the bathroom they are trying to force their way in.
 
Once the law is passed its 'settled law'...right? I mean...surely people wouldnt advocate to continue to reopen laws that have been passed based on new bodies in government and judicial offices.
 
JasperL said:
Damn those transgenders - they ought to just hold it when in public! :roll:
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You're trying to reason with someone who has said people don't have a right to use the bathroom
 
Party of small government strikes again

No matter, the courts will destroy it, at great cost and shame to the state

Here is their pathetic compromise that they're using to blame the minority party, essentially trading a discriminatory law for....the same thing:

"version of the repeal that would have included a six-month moratorium on cities passing nondiscrimination ordinances to protect gay and transgender people"

never mind that HB2 was supposedly so urgent it had to go into effect immediately. Now we need moratoriums leaving ****ty laws in place just to screw people a bit longer for no reason, other than for one party to blame the other?
 
Henrin said:
The funny thing is if transgenders weren't trying to force their way into bathrooms in the first place this law would have never came to pass. Funny how that works.
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The, "in your face", strategy backfired on them.
 
chromium said:
Party of small government strikes again

No matter, the courts will destroy it, at great cost and shame to the state

Here is their pathetic compromise that they're using to blame the minority party, essentially trading a discriminatory law for....the same thing:

"version of the repeal that would have included a six-month moratorium on cities passing nondiscrimination ordinances to protect gay and transgender people"

never mind that HB2 was supposedly so urgent it had to go into effect immediately. Now we need moratoriums leaving ****ty laws in place just to screw people a bit longer for no reason, other than for one party to blame the other?
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The courts won't destroy the bill, because it would be infringing on private property rights.
 
VanceMack said:
Once the law is passed its 'settled law'...right? I mean...surely people wouldnt advocate to continue to reopen laws that have been passed based on new bodies in government and judicial offices.
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If that were true, then we would still be seeing "Whites only" signs at bathrooms.
 
TurtleDude said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...pealing-bathroom-bill/?utm_term=.7ef39c3372e6
North Carolina lawmakers failed Wednesday to repeal a law regulating transgender people’s use of public restrooms, despite convening in a special legislative session for the express purpose of rescinding the controversial law.


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This is stupid. The city of Charlotte repealed their law on the condition the state repeals theirs. These supposed Conservative lawmakers don't seem to understand what conservatism is about. It's about more individual liberty and fewer laws since laws tend to reduce liberty. Repeal the stupid law already!
 
NonoBadDog said:
What I can't understand is why the NCAA would cancel games in NC because of this bill. Doesn't matter to me however. I don't watch basketball. It's just weird that a sport would get involved in politics. I usually piss in the woods. There isn't a sign up that says what part of the woods any gender can use.
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The bill isn't just about bathrooms - it also struck down Charlotte's ordinance protecting LGBT from discrimination and banned other communities from passing similar laws.
 
NonoBadDog said:
What I can't understand is why the NCAA would cancel games in NC because of this bill. Doesn't matter to me however. I don't watch basketball. It's just weird that a sport would get involved in politics. I usually piss in the woods. There isn't a sign up that says what part of the woods any gender can use.
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because many businesses and organizations are becoming politically active.

one reason i don't watch the NFL anyone more is because of its PC ways
 
danarhea said:
If that were true, then we would still be seeing "Whites only" signs at bathrooms.
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Huh. Well...I guess then that it IS possible the whole gay marriage thing and abortion question could resurface. I was kinda hoping we were done with all that.
 
JasperL said:
The bill isn't just about bathrooms - it also struck down Charlotte's ordinance protecting LGBT from discrimination and banned other communities from passing similar laws.
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I don't know what the LBGT law was. It could have been good or bad so I don't have anything to say about that. I don't agree with most of the proposals for laws for bathrooms and transgenders. I think there is room for a compromise but some people on both sides refuse to compromise. I support most LBGT issues. Men in the women's bathrooms, not so much. Trans men that are dressed as a woman using the women's bathroom doesn't bother me but men that are dressed as men and claim to identify as a woman doesn't wash with me. I think the demand that everyone agree with the idea that anyone should use any bathroom is where the people that push for open restrooms screwed up.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I don't know what the LBGT law was. It could have been good or bad so I don't have anything to say about that. I don't agree with most of the proposals for laws for bathrooms and transgenders. I think there is room for a compromise but some people on both sides refuse to compromise. I support most LBGT issues. Men in the women's bathrooms, not so much. Trans men that are dressed as a woman using the women's bathroom doesn't bother me but men that are dressed as men and claim to identify as a woman doesn't wash with me. I think the demand that everyone agree with the idea that anyone should use any bathroom is where the people that push for open restrooms screwed up.
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The original HB2 essentially repealed all state laws against discrimination of any kind - including race, etc. - and sent plaintiffs in N.C. exclusively to Federal courts. They amended that - removed it from the bill - but the bill prohibited any city in NC from protecting LGBT like race, religion, etc. That part of the bill is apparently what killed repeal this latest session.

I'm a bit agnostic on the bathroom bills. I understand the concerns of people, especially parents with little girls, but like you I don't have a problem with actually transgender people using the bathroom of their choice - they aren't going to be any problem - and there isn't a good alternative for them except the bathroom of their assumed gender. Not sure how to balance those concerns, but maybe nothing is the better choice, even if the concerns are mostly imaginary as far as I can tell, they're real to the people who have them.
 
JasperL said:
The bill isn't just about bathrooms - it also struck down Charlotte's ordinance protecting LGBT from discrimination and banned other communities from passing similar laws.
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what discrimination does the Charlotte ordinance protect people from?
 
apdst said:
what discrimination does the Charlotte ordinance protect people from?
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You can look and find it if you want, but it essentially adds LGBT to the protected classes in the Civil Rights Act that now protect religion, race, national origin, etc. from discrimination.
 
apdst said:
The, "in your face", strategy backfired on them.
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More or less that's pretty much what happened. The only thing they really have to support their case is that some of them can pass, which might sound like a strong argument until you realize that the entire thing is a deception.
 
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