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Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

ReverendHellh0und said:
Remember when those same agencies said Iraq had wmd?


You seem ignorant as to how our government lies to us, and that such "investigations" can begin on simply partisan basis....


imagine if you had this much enthusiasm about the e-mail investigation..... or benghazi.
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George W. Bush?s CIA briefer admits Iraq WMD ?intelligence? was a lie - Salon.com

On Tuesday night, former CIA Deputy Director and Bush’s intelligence briefer Michael Morell appeared on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” where he, under an amount of good cable news duress, admitted that the administration intentionally misrepresented intelligence.
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Do you get it now?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, the subject here is the public exposure of DNC/MSM collusion to rig the election for Hillary. Turning that simple reality on its head by saying that public exposure of DNC/MSM collusion to help Hillary is somehow Trump's (or Russia's) election rigging is comical. Deflecting from what election rigging content was exposed and saying that the exposure itself is the only real crime is patent denial of the documented facts exposed.
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I never said Trump did I.

The picture is that Russia tried to turn the election isn't it.
 
Praxas said:
Oh please you are partisan as they come and you accuse me of that? Go sell that BS to someone else. You make assumptions about Hillary and then act high and mighty with Trump? Puuuuuhlease.
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While you make assumptions about Trump and the Russians.
 
Moderate Right said:
While you make assumptions about Trump and the Russians.
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It's not just "me" making the assumptions. Oh and please tell me what Clinton was found guilty of again? The Russians ARE implicated, that is fact.
 
Praxas said:
It's not just "me" making the assumptions. Oh and please tell me what Clinton was found guilty of again? The Russians ARE implicated, that is fact.
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Even intelligence agencies disagree with each other on this. If Clinton was not found guilty of anything then why is the left so up in arms about the emails that Russia supposedly hacked and released? They must clear her then at a time when there were still worries so Russia must have been trying to influence the election in favor of her.
 
Moderate Right said:
Even intelligence agencies disagree with each other on this. If Clinton was not found guilty of anything then why is the left so up in arms about the emails that Russia supposedly hacked and released? They must clear her then at a time when there were still worries so Russia must have been trying to influence the election in favor of her.
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Nice stretching you are doing there, I even bet you buy into the BS you're spewing. Clinton didn't have to be "guilty" of anything legal for Russia to sway an election to Trump. And if you believe Russia was hacking for Hillary, you take naïve to a new level. You're stretching is cute though like Gumby, but equally useless.
 
Praxas said:
Nice stretching you are doing there, I even bet you buy into the BS you're spewing. Clinton didn't have to be "guilty" of anything legal for Russia to sway an election to Trump. And if you believe Russia was hacking for Hillary, you take naïve to a new level. You're stretching is cute though like Gumby, but equally useless.
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So what was in the released emails that made Hillary look bad?
 
jet57 said:
I never said Trump did I.

The picture is that Russia tried to turn the election isn't it.
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Nope, the DNC/MSM collusion tried to turn the election - the hack (leak?) just exposed it.
 
Praxas said:
There are many threads on this, are you serious? Look em up. What a stupid question.
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Funny how there was a warning BEFOREHAND that Russia may try to influence the election but the left didn't seem worried about it at all and were already sipping their champagne before Nov 8th but after the Trump win all of a sudden in became important, of course after blaming it on Comey first and then the electoral college and then blaming it on fraudulent votes in three close states and now it is the Russian hack. Now there are new signs that it is actually all Huma Abedin's fault. Of course none of it could be Hillary's fault.
 
Praxas said:
How many times was Benghazi and the emails looked at? PLENTY multiple times. Now how about YOU guys show this much enthusiasm for investigating if a foreign entity purposely hacked into a party for the purpose of swaying a presidential election as you did for Benghazi and the emails?
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The dumb broad lost because she was arrogant and thought she didn't need the white working class.




Let's pretend it's true. Why did Obama wait until now to want to investigate?
 
jet57 said:
No, you don't get it:

That's what happened.
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The fact is in Nov. the head of the CIA testified before congress that there was no evidence of what you claimed in the op.
He was summoned to congress today to brief the intelligence committee in who he reports to on this subject
And he canceled and refused to show up.

Which means he has nothing to support his claims.
 
ludin said:
The fact is in Nov. the head of the CIA testified before congress that there was no evidence of what you claimed in the op.
He was summoned to congress today to brief the intelligence committee in who he reports to on this subject
And he canceled and refused to show up.

Which means he has nothing to support his claims.
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Well then, I guess the entire intelligence community of the Untied States is wrong then.
 
jet57 said:
Well then, I guess the entire intelligence community of the Untied States is wrong then.
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Again the head of the CIA last month testified under oath that there was no vide EC.
If you want to say he is lying then he committed perjury.

That or he is now making up disinformation to try and discredit what is a legal elected president.

There is no evidence of fraud or hacking by Russians on machines not connected to the internet
Or anything else.

Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources | Reuters

Just the top intelligence agency.
 
ludin said:
Again the head of the CIA last month testified under oath that there was no vide EC.
If you want to say he is lying then he committed perjury.

That or he is now making up disinformation to try and discredit what is a legal elected president.

There is no evidence of fraud or hacking by Russians on machines not connected to the internet
Or anything else.

Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources | Reuters

Just the top intelligence agency.
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There is nothing in your source that even HINTS at the assertion you're making.

You should read it again.
 
jet57 said:
There is nothing in your source that even HINTS at the assertion you're making.

You should read it again.
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Seems odd, doesn't it, that the CIA has declined the offer to give congress a briefing. You'd think that they and all the other 16 or 17 intelligence gathering agencies would be hell-bent-for-leather to tell the world how Trump's presidency is a sham.
 
Quazimodo said:
Seems odd, doesn't it, that the CIA has declined the offer to give congress a briefing. You'd think that they and all the other 16 or 17 intelligence gathering agencies would be hell-bent-for-leather to tell the world how Trump's presidency is a sham.
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Let's go back to original post. The title uses the term "assessment". An assessment is an opinion, not a fact. I believe there is evidence that emails at the DNC and Clinton campaign were hacked and provided to Wikileaks. There is not evidence of anything beyond that. Everything beyond that is guesses, opinions and hysteria. It isn't even worth arguing about.
 
jet57 said:
There is nothing in your source that even HINTS at the assertion you're making.

You should read it again.
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denial is a weak argument, but typical of someone that can't rebuttal the story and information given.
yes you should read it again. yes it does support what I have said.

Even the cIA director last month supports what I said.
 
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