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Obama orders review of Russian election-related hacking

Mr Person said:
It really is frightening that the same people who thought Hillary was Satan because she handled sensitive information as carelessly as the last five SoS's are willing to actually laugh off the possibility that our "greatest geopolitical foe"* sought and/or succeeded in influencing our national election. Worse, that they're doing it for base and tribalist political purposes.

*In quotes, because the same people who said Russia was our greatest geopolitical foe after Romney said so - people who blamed Crimea on Obama - are now acting like we should ignore Russian aggression against us.
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It's silly how trump is so fly by the seat of his pants in decision making but it's downright sad that his sheep followers can be spun around so quickly that they have no discernible identity from one day to the next.
 
upsideguy said:
Remind me again, what exactly was this 'corruption' other than a look at sausage is made? Frankly, given the incredible access the Russians had to the DNC, their "grand revealing" was a massive disappointment. It reminded me of Gelrado opening Capone's vault.

BTW. In the country I am from, the US, we are outraged at 'evidence' that was obtained illegally. It is disregarded in a court of law. We tend to get outraged when people do things illegally and then blame the other person....
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If it was nothing, then why did you guys fire Wasserman? And Brazile, what was that about? Why the hate for Bernie? Why the need for an FBI criminal investigation? Why the tarmac meeting with Bill and Loretta?

It was like watching Tony Sopranos wife run for president.
 
poweRob said:
It's silly how trump is so fly by the seat of his pants in decision making but it's downright sad that his sheep followers can be spun around so quickly that they have no discernible identity from one day to the next.
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That's some great projection given that the Democrats are running around screaming THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING as a cover for their own humiliation in losing to Trump.

There is no presented evidence of the Russians doing anything at this point. The only reason this story has legs is because the Hillary fans need to believe it.
 
jamesrage said:
Which seem kind of strange considering the fact Trump is a RINO like them and gave them money,

Donald Trump Gave Money To Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, George Bush, John McCain
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And I once loaned a guy money and later wound up hating his guts. Donald Trump publicly humiliated Lindsey Graham on national television by calling him and begging hanger on who was desperately calling him for favors. Then Trump confirmed the story was true by calling Lindsey Graham on national television. It was hilarious how Trump publicly exposed the truth about Graham and Graham has been acting like a scorned woman ever since.
 
jmotivator said:
That's some great projection given that the Democrats are running around screaming THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING as a cover for their own humiliation in losing to Trump.

There is no presented evidence of the Russians doing anything at this point. The only reason this story has legs is because the Hillary fans need to believe it.
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And because the mainstream media apparently have some compelling reason to keep talking about it. If they repeat the story frequently enough, some will certainly buy into it, just as they've bought into every other propaganda offensive run by the CIA and other agencies.

If that's what the MSM wants me to think, I will likely choose the other path.
 
Erod said:
If it was nothing, then why did you guys fire Wasserman? And Brazile, what was that about? Why the hate for Bernie? Why the need for an FBI criminal investigation? Why the tarmac meeting with Bill and Loretta?

It was like watching Tony Sopranos wife run for president.
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Please tell us specifically what you are talking about. I want a reference to the email and an explanation of why one should be outraged. My guess, its about as poignant as your concerns the Obama bows to deeply to other heads of state while ignoring the fact we just elected a Putin puppet. Typical conservatives: hung up on form; ignore substance.
 
We should demand that the subcommittee subpoena the servers that were hacked and investigate this hacking immediately. The only way to proceed with a hacking investigation would be to look at the hard drives. They should issue subpoenas for the Clinton Foundation, Clinton Campaign and the DCCC as soon as possible to start working on the forensics of those servers to see if they can determine who hacked them. That could also supplement information for the FBI investigation that is ongoing for the Clinton Foundation. We need to know the truth.

I don't think the Democrats know what they are asking for.
 
poweRob said:
Oh bull****. Your boy Trump is telling America that our intel isn't to be trusted and that we should trust Putin and his folks more. Play the victim all you want but these are the facts.
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Not at all what he is saying, but then again you aren't concerned with representing him honestly anyway....
 
jmotivator said:
That's some great projection given that the Democrats are running around screaming THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING as a cover for their own humiliation in losing to Trump.

There is no presented evidence of the Russians doing anything at this point. The only reason this story has legs is because the Hillary fans need to believe it.
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Sure, if you don't believe our own intelligence agencies you sure have a point. :lol:
 
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poweRob said:
Oh bull****. Your boy Trump is telling America that our intel isn't to be trusted and that we should trust Putin and his folks more. Play the victim all you want but these are the facts.
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Which one of these organizations want to sell arms to terrorists in Syria?

The CIA or Russia???

Russia pleaded and begged for us to stop the Tsarnaev brothers and gave us a lot of information about their terrorists roots, but the CIA and the FBI wanted Americans to be killed so they did nothing. Then the Boston Bombings happened, exactly like how our CIA wanted.

So far it looks like the Russians are doing more to protect American lives than the CIA. Once Trump replaces the people at the top in that organization then some good will come out of it, but right now the CIA intelligence is more about supporting the establishment right or wrong before they even do anything to protect American interests.
 
reinoe said:
Which one of these organizations want to sell arms to terrorists in Syria?

The CIA or Russia???

Russia pleaded and begged for us to stop the Tsarnaev brothers and gave us a lot of information about their terrorists roots, but the CIA and the FBI wanted Americans to be killed so they did nothing. Then the Boston Bombings happened, exactly like how our CIA wanted.

So far it looks like the Russians are doing more to protect American lives than the CIA. Once Trump replaces the people at the top in that organization then some good will come out of it, but right now the CIA intelligence is more about supporting the establishment right or wrong before they even do anything to protect American interests.
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Then I'm right. You've thrown in your lot with Russia over your own country. Dualy noted.
 
j-mac said:
Nonsense....It's just you attacking others...
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Yeah... you can stop your crying now.

reinoe said:
So far it looks like the Russians are doing more to protect American lives than the CIA.
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poweRob said:
Sure, if you don't believe our own intelligence agencies you sure have a point. :lol:
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You aren't even operating on a CIA report, just people's second hand report. And since when do Dems buy the CIA reports without evidence? The FBI isn't impressed with whatever the CIA has.
 
poweRob said:
Oh bull****. Your boy Trump is telling America that our intel isn't to be trusted and that we should trust Putin and his folks more. Play the victim all you want but these are the facts.
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Was CIA right about WMD's in Iraq?
 
poweRob said:
Read his ****ing posts. Hes bragging about it.
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After watching Democrats try to white wash Saddam Hussein in order to tar Republicans and lionize Castro to tar conservatives I am unimpressed with Democrats sudden shot of patriotism born from fake news to tar the Republican president.
 
poweRob said:
Then I'm right. You've thrown in your lot with Russia over your own country. Dualy noted.
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Senator poweRob McCarthy, nobody needs your certificate of Americanness - although feel free to hand me a roll of them, so that I can mount them in the bathroom for good use. Make sure they're 4-ply.
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poweRob said:
Sure, if you don't believe our own intelligence agencies you sure have a point. :lol:
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What compelling reasons are there to believe our own intelligence agencies?

My experience is they've been lying, individually and collectively, for most of my life. I make a habit of not believing known liars.

It seems to me that the names we've heard, several variations on ***bear is a dead giveaway of the staged nature of these things. Would actual Russian hackers really use a code name SomethingBear?

I doubt it.
 
poweRob said:
Sure, if you don't believe our own intelligence agencies you sure have a point. :lol:
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Did you believe ISIS was "JV", that Saddam had huge stockpiles of WMDs, that Iran is no longer building nukes and that Russia just snuck into the Ukraine or Syria? The problem with most of the "its a fact but we just can't show you any proof without compromising methods an sources" is why that sort of testimony is inadmissible in a court since cross examination is impossible. That sort of stuff smells heavily of the accusation is the proof - so why hold a hearing or a trial?.
 
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