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Grand Mal said:
Um, okay. Nothing to do with liberals, but I can't argue with it.
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Liberals run the universities.
 
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j-mac said:
So, here yet another example of liberal professor's in our colleges, and universities are more or less indoctrination centers...Free speech at these places doesn't exist....And they are in real need of reformation of their approach to higher learning....
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Isn't it common practice in college to record the professor so the student can play it back and study what they need to?

If that is the case, then the professor had already given her approval for the recordings.
 
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RickJames3000 said:
Had a good look at the teacher's comments, and I don't see any problem. Everything she said (other than perhaps characterizing Trump's victory as an "act of terrorism") is based on facts.

People objecting to this professor's comments are snowflakes who need to seek out their collective safe space. I thought Trump had brought an end to PC oppression. Apparently not.
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What did anything she said have to do with the subject matter of the class?
 
I'm wondering where the expectation of privacy is...in a room full of random people?


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j-mac said:
So, here yet another example of liberal professor's in our colleges, and universities are more or less indoctrination centers...Free speech at these places doesn't exist....And they are in real need of reformation of their approach to higher learning....
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Try again.

First, the teacher is getting targeted for censorship. You seem to have omitted that in your blurb.

Second, it's illegal to record a conversation in California without the express consent.

If the professor had said at some point "you can make recordings of the classroom," or if there is a school policy allowing classroom recordings, then the student can't be suspended or tossed. That's not clear.
 
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jimbo said:
Professor should be fired. She can put her soap box on the nearest street corner and fire away. After she obtains the proper permits.

The only job of the education system is to educate. Hearing other's opinions is part of that education. Listening to the rants of the losers is not.
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So it's OK to censor people, as long as they are left of center? Fascinating.
 
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j-mac said:
So, here yet another example of liberal professor's in our colleges, and universities are more or less indoctrination centers...Free speech at these places doesn't exist....And they are in real need of reformation of their approach to higher learning....
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I think teachers should be allowed to have an opinion, so long as it doesnt create a hostile environment against the captured audience. After all, the teacher is being paid by the students to teach them information, not to convince them of a narrative. I dont know if she should be fired, but she certainly needs a reprimand and a chance to correct her behavior.
 
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Visbek said:
So it's OK to censor people, as long as they are left of center? Fascinating.
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100% agree with that. most of what the left says is dangerous and anti american.
 
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RickJames3000 said:
Had a good look at the teacher's comments, and I don't see any problem. Everything she said (other than perhaps characterizing Trump's victory as an "act of terrorism") is based on facts.

People objecting to this professor's comments are snowflakes who need to seek out their collective safe space. I thought Trump had brought an end to PC oppression. Apparently not.
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political bias is political bias.
her job it to teach she isn't teaching.

she is attempting to bully her students.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Yeah, 'free speech doesn't exist'.

Conservatives don't understand how easy the fix is. All they need to do is find some conservatives who are qualified to teach in university and then they can start their own indoctrination programs.
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here I thought colleges were supposed to educate?
 
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VanceMack said:
Or maybe they want to get the education and classes they paid for and not an indoctrination.

Would you be saying the same things if a conservative professor railed against homosexuality or the evils of abortion? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you would. Because college teachers should be able to wax on for the duration of their class about nonrelated matters and threaten academic sanction if the student dares to disagree. Right?
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If you're worried about indoctrinating the children, why aren't you more worried about Infowars and less worried about a venue with only a couple dozen or so college kids??
 
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VanceMack said:
Or maybe they want to get the education and classes they paid for and not an indoctrination.

Would you be saying the same things if a conservative professor railed against homosexuality or the evils of abortion? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you would.
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So instead of noting the censorious impulses of the right, you introduce a hypothetical situation? Fascinating.

Face it, the impulse to censor (and censure) is not exclusive to any particular partisan position. Left, right, conservative, progressive, whatever, people holding those points of view espouse censorship. It happens.


Because college teachers should be able to wax on for the duration of their class about nonrelated matters and threaten academic sanction if the student dares to disagree. Right?
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Yeah, that isn't what happened.

The instructor ranted about Trump. A student recorded it, possibly illegally, and posted a transcript on social media, all without consent. Students bashed the teacher. The professor's union criticized the student for potentially illegally recording and distributing the rant -- not his political positions.

But hey, why let facts get in the way when you can blast someone from a different political perspective, right? Right.
 
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jonny5 said:
I think teachers should be allowed to have an opinion, so long as it doesnt create a hostile environment against the captured audience. After all, the teacher is being paid by the students to teach them information, not to convince them of a narrative. I dont know if she should be fired, but she certainly needs a reprimand and a chance to correct her behavior.
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I don't think firing is the way to go here, but maybe a warning to stick to subject matter of the class...I'm pretty sure her feelings about the election have nothing to do with "Human Sexuality"

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Mason66 said:
Isn't it common practice in college to record the professor so the student can play it back and study what they need to?

If that is the case, then the professor had already given her approval for the recordings.
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LOL the students are expected to record the lecture by taking notes, not by recording the professor and then publishing it for free viewing, even to those who are not students.
 
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JasperL said:
Who is "we" who will "find them out" and what happens next?

And, yes, there are liberals on campuses, and there are conservatives, and there are lots more who just teach their classes and go home. I guess the point is classrooms should be 'safe spaces' from liberal political opinion. :roll:
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Nope classroom is meant to be taught the course material.
not listen to a professor rant. if they want to rant they can do it on their own time.

the students or their employers have paid to get taught a course not listen to some diatribe.

the students should ask for their money back and time wasted for this rant. that isn't what they paid for.
 
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j-mac said:
So, here yet another example of liberal professor's in our colleges, and universities are more or less indoctrination centers...Free speech at these places doesn't exist....And they are in real need of reformation of their approach to higher learning....
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Do not criticize the alt-left, they will threaten you with reprisal. Do not record them, they will threaten you with reprisal.

Indoctrination? Absolutely - for decades now. Either you agree with the alt-left or you are a leper at that school - this is why people will not speak their minds on campus or to anyone on campus, because they will be reprisals and really, who wants to go to college when the college, faculty and other students will make your life hell? Best to just go with the flow and have as much fun doing it as possible.
 
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ludin said:
here I thought colleges were supposed to educate?
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I don't understand. Are you claiming now that the professor failed to educate the students on the curriculum? That's a completely different argument.
 
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American said:
Reducing regulations, and cutting taxes mean you trust people to know what's best for themselves.
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LOL, so as long as you agree with them, it's OK for others to believe they "know" what's best for everyone!

Also, too, cutting regulations making it effectively legal to dump toxic waste into streams and rivers means politicians trust the public to know what is best for them? How about cutting taxes and balancing the budget by cutting the military by 80%? :roll:
 
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Another example of a thin-skinned Republican taking an elective course and boo-hooing all over the internet because they don't agree with something the professor said. This kid should stay in his safe space.
 
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Visbek said:
So it's OK to censor people, as long as they are left of center? Fascinating.
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No, like I said, professor is free to yell her position from the rooftop as long as it's her rooftop.

While she is at her job, which is teaching, she should teach or be fired.

I'd feel exactly the same way if the teacher was someone who 100% agrees with me.
 
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Absentglare said:
I don't understand. Are you claiming now that the professor failed to educate the students on the curriculum? That's a completely different argument.
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how is a class time rant about trump teaching the curriculum? ol yea it isn't.
which means she wasn't doing the job she was paid to do which is teach the course.
 
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ludin said:
political bias is political bias.
her job it to teach she isn't teaching.

she is attempting to bully her students.
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Then by all means, you should rush there with a safety pin and let them know you are there for them! Maybe you can bring some puppies for them to cuddle?:2razz:
 
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ludin said:
Nope classroom is meant to be taught the course material.
not listen to a professor rant. if they want to rant they can do it on their own time.

the students or their employers have paid to get taught a course not listen to some diatribe.

the students should ask for their money back and time wasted for this rant. that isn't what they paid for.
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It's a human sexuality class, and she was basically reacting to the election based on how it would impact gay rights. Although it has a political slant, it wasn't a physics class.
 
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Mason66 said:
What did anything she said have to do with the subject matter of the class?
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Maybe if you detail your concerns to the administration you can dictate what these professors may say in class and what they may not.
Why don't you start a list of RWNJ-approved topics?
 
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