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Trump taps Ben Carson for HUD secretary [W:169]

Gaius46 said:
The odds that someone who doesn't know the industry, the organization or have the requisite management skills will be an effective leader are slim. Not zero to be sure, but he's already got two strikes against him right out of the gate.
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Neither you nor anyone else have actually established that the above statement is valid. You only make uneducated assumptions about the nature of Carson's duties as director of pediatric neurology, and ignorant presumptions of Carson's level of understanding of HUD and ability to lead and manage people.

I assert that there is no unique talent necessary to run HUD versus running the Department of Pediatric Neurology at Johns Hopkins, and no demonstrable proof that Carson is unfit for the position or incapable of doing the job. Hand waving and generalities don't pass as proof.

Look at most of the CEO hirings that happen. The vast majority have the knowledge and skillsets I laid out. Don't you wonder why that is? Sure many bad CEOs have those same skills but that simply means being a good CEO isn't easy even when you're prepared for it. How much harder for someone ill prepared for the task.
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Again, you make gratuitous assertions that you then don't back up. Let's say for the sake of argument that the vast majority of CEOs are selected as you have stated... but since the vast majority of businesses fail your assertion would also mean that the selection process leads to failure more often than success... so even accepting your argument (which I don't) the numbers don't add up to "how it's always done" being the best way to choose a leader.
 
LessBiased? said:
Frankly, I think I may be more qualified for HUD Secretary than Carson. And I don't consider myself to be qualified ...
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What is it that you do for a living?
 
jmotivator said:
Neither you nor anyone else have actually established that the above statement is valid. You only make uneducated assumptions about the nature of Carson's duties as director of pediatric neurology, and ignorant presumptions of Carson's level of understanding of HUD and ability to lead and manage people.

I assert that there is no unique talent necessary to run HUD versus running the Department of Pediatric Neurology at Johns Hopkins, and no demonstrable proof that Carson is unfit for the position or incapable of doing the job. Hand waving and generalities don't pass as proof.



Again, you make gratuitous assertions that you then don't back up. Let's say for the sake of argument that the vast majority of CEOs are selected as you have stated... but since the vast majority of businesses fail your assertion would also mean that the selection process leads to failure more often than success... so even accepting your argument (which I don't) the numbers don't add up to "how it's always done" being the best way to choose a leader.
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So you accuse me of making an uneducated assumption and then go ahead and make one of your own (I assert that there is no unique talent necessary to run HUD versus running the Department of Pediatric Neurology at Johns Hopkins,). I'd assert that your position on it's face is less likely to be true than mine. But of course that's equally uneducated except that I've managed staff in companies that have ranged in size from 3000 to 150,000 over the past 30 years and kind of know a little about how they work and how they select their senior leadership. So I'm not wholly uneducated on the subject and am basing my comments on that experience. And that's gonna have to be good enough because I don't have the time to gather supporting documentation.

So upon what are you basing your statements?
 
jmotivator said:
Neither you nor anyone else have actually established that the above statement is valid. You only make uneducated assumptions about the nature of Carson's duties as director of pediatric neurology, and ignorant presumptions of Carson's level of understanding of HUD and ability to lead and manage people.

I assert that there is no unique talent necessary to run HUD versus running the Department of Pediatric Neurology at Johns Hopkins, and no demonstrable proof that Carson is unfit for the position or incapable of doing the job. Hand waving and generalities don't pass as proof.
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I employ people. I've reviewed many hundreds of resumes, and have conducted more than a hundred job interviews. The burden falls on applicants show that they're the qualified and the best person for the job. The burden is NOT on employers to show that applicants are unfit.

BTW, neurology and neurosurgery are different medical specialties.
 
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